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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No2

Postby preston » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:21 am

SQUACKEE wrote:I'm glad the athlete who deserved no.1 got it! Athough Pre would have been a great choice as well. 8-)

Deserved? That wasn't part of the exercise. This was about personal favorites. The #1 pick and #10 pick are nearly equal in my eyes.
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No2

Postby Daisy » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:24 am

Pego wrote:Here is a complete list in the alphabetical orders. I tried to correct what I knew, but some errors clearly have to be there.

This is the final list I have. Our position numbers do differ a bit.

1st (17 votes 214 points)
Haile Gebrselassie

2nd (17 votes 191 Points)
Edwin Moses

3rd (14 votes 156 points)
Michael Johnson

4th (14 votes 124 points)
Usain Bolt

5th (13 votes 189 points)
Jackie Joyner Kersee

6th (13 votes 186 points)
Carl Lewis

7th (13 votes, 149 poiints)
Evelyn Ashford

8th (11 votes 148 points)
Cathy Freeman

9th (11 votes 146 points)
Merlene Ottey

10th (11 votes 138 points)
Paula Radcliffe

11th (11 votes 134 points)
Emil Zátopek

12th (11 votes 129 points)
Daley Thompson

13th (10 votes 120 points)
Maria Mutola

14th (10 votes 112 points)
Al Oerter

15th (9 votes 117 votes)
Steve Ovett

16th (9 votes 108 points)
Seb Coe

17th (9 votes 106 points)
Jim Ryun

18th (9votes 91 points)
Peter Snell

19th (9 votes 82 points)
Heike Drechsler

20th (8 votes 107 points)
Ana Quirot

21st (8 votes 71 points)
Jessica Ennis

22nd (7 votes 110 points)
Valeriy Brummel

23rd (7 votes 108 points)
Frank Shorter
Steve Prefontaine

25th (7 votes 98 points)
Jesse Owens

26th (7 votes 82 points)
Kelly Holmes
Paavo Nurmi

28th (7 votes 81)
Bernard Lagat

29th (7 votes 79 points)
Irena Szewinska

30th (7 votes 78 points)
Florence Griffiths Joyner

31st (7 votes 72 points)
Herb Elliot

32nd (7 votes 67 points)
Gail Devers

33rd (7 votes 66 points)
Wilson Kipketer

34th ( 6 votes 87 points)
Abebe Bikila

35th (6 votes 74 points)
Kip Keino

36th (6 votes 72 points)
Renaldo Nehemiah

37th (6 votes 70 points)
Carolina Kluft

38th (6 votes 63 points)
Roman Sebrle

39th (6 votes 62 points)
Dan O'Brien
Sergie Bubka

41st (6 votes 56 points)
Jonathon Edwards

42nd (6 votes 54 points)
Allen Johnson

43rd (6 votes 45 points)
Mary Slaney

44th (5 votes 88 points)
Marita Koch

45th (5 votes 85 points)
Tommie Smith

46th (5 votes 62 poiints)
Ron Clark

47th (5 votes 58 points)
Brian Olfield

48th (5 votes 50 points)
Valerie Adams

49th (5 votes 47 points)
Lui Xiang

50th ( 5 votes 46 points)
Henry Rono

51st (5 votes 41 points)
Alberto Juanterena

52nd (5 votes 39 points)
Lasse Viren

53rd (5 votes 38 points)
Mo Farah

54th (5 votes 32 points)
Greta Waitz

55th (4 votes 67 points)
Bobby Morrow

56th (4 votes 60 points)
Marlies Gohr

57th (4 votes 58 points)
Bob Hayes

58th (4 votes 56 points)
Fanny Blankers Koen

59th (4 votes 54 points)
Joan Benoit

60th (4 votes 51 points)
Don Quarrie

61st (4 votes 50 points)
Virgilijus Alekna

62nd (4 votes 47 points)
Jim Thorpe
Mary Peters

64th (4 votes 46 points)
Charles Austin
Dean Macey

66th ( 4 votes 44 points)
Allyson Felix

67th (4 votes 43 points)
Said Aouita

68th ( 4 votes 40 points)
Irina Privalova

69th (4 votes 39 points)
Marie Jose Perec
Stacy Dragila

71st (4 votes 38 points)
Ralph Boston

72nd (4 votes 33 points)
Jan Zelezney

73rd (4 votes 16 points)
Wilma Rudolph

74th ( 3 votes 55 points)
Glenn Davis

75th (3 votes 48 points)
Tirunesh Dibaba

76th (3 votes 47 points)
Frankie Fredericks

77th (3 votes 44 points)
Andreas Thorkildsen
Gwen Torrence

79th (3 votes 42 points)
Parry O'Brien

80th (3 votes 40 points)
Kathy Cook

81st (3 votes 38 points)
Denise Lewis

82nd (3 points 37 points)
Fiona May
Tatyana Lebedeva

84th (3 votes 36 points)
Paul Tergat
Stefan Holm

86th (3 votes 35 points)
Jeremy Wariner

87th (3 votes 33 points)
Blanka Vlasic
Mike Powell
Tessa Sanderson

90th (3 votes 31 points)
Doina Melinte

91st (3 votes 30 points)
Ivan Pedroso
Tyson Gay

93rd (3 votes 29 points)
Romain Mesnil

94th (3 votes 28 points)
Gerry Lindgren
Mac Wikinson

96th (3 votes 26 points)
Bob Seagran
Hicham El Guerrouj

98 - (3 votes 25 points)
Calvin Smith
Susannah Kallur

100 (3 votes 21 points)
Yelena Isinbyeva

101 (3 votes 18 points)
Willie Banks

102nd (3 votes 16 points)
Bob Mathias

103rd (3 votes 14 points)
Jacko Gill

104th (3 votes 12 points)
Koji Murofushi

105th (3 votes 10 points)
Linford Christie

106th (3 votes 5 points)
Sally Pearson

109th (2 votes 40 points)
Sonia Lannerman

110th (2 votes 32 points)
Igor Ter Ovanesyn

111th (2 votes 31 points)
Dave Sime

112th (2 votes 30 points)
Svetlana Masterkova

113th (2 votes 29 points)
Steve Scott

114th (2 votes 28 points)
Jim Beatty
Seppo Ratty
Veronica Campbell Brown

117th (2 Votes 27 points)
Bert Cameron
PT Usha
Viktor Saneyev

120th (2 votes 25 points)
Adam Nelson
Brian Clay

122nd (2 votes 24 points)
Mary Rand
Staņislavs Olijars

124th (2 Votes 23 points)
Charlie Green
Joaquim Cruz
John Walker

127th (2 votes 22 points)
Stephan Diagana

128th (2 votes 21 points)
Harrison Dillard
Jarmilla Kratochvilova
Lance Deal
Larry James
Lee Calhoun

133rd (2 votes 20 points)
Ashton Eaton
Ato Boldon
Marty Liquori

136th (2 votes 19 points)
Al Feuerbach
Billy Mills
Eamon Coghlan
Erki Nool
Felix Sanchez
Kenenisa Bekele
Steve Cram

143rd (2 votes 18 points)
Jean Galfione
Rafer Johnson

145th (2 votes 17 points)
Christine Arron
Deratu Tulu
Roger Bannister

148th (2 votes 16 points)
Caster Semenya
Uwe Holm

150th (2 votes 14 points)
Babe Didrikson
Bob Richards
Colin Jackson

153rd (2 votes 13 points)
Dwight Stone
Kim Collins

155th (2 votes 12 points)
Jearl Miles

156th ( 2 votes 11 points)
Christophe Lamaitre
Connie Price Smith
Shelly Anne Fraser Price

159th (2 votes 10 points)
Ulis Williams

160th (2 votes 9 points)
Sandra Farmer Patrick
Tatyana Samelenko

162nd (2 votes 8 points)
Heike Henkel

163rd (2 votes 6 points)
Sonia O'Sulivan

164th (2 votes 4 points)
Livio Berruti

165th (1vote 20 points)
Brian Diemer
Gabo Szabo
Jim Bolding
Shirley Strickland
Yordanka Donkova

170th (1 vote 19 points)
Anatoly Bonderchuk
Carla Sacramento
Christina Obergföll
Dieter Baumann
Grit Breur
Mal Whitfield
Radion Gataullin

177th (1 vote 18 points)
Alexandra Chudina
Igor Potapovich
John Godina
Kim Smith
Lillian Board
Olga Kotylarova
Pekka Paivarinta
Steve Williams
Tina Paulino

186th (1 Vote 17 points)
Kelly Sotherton
Leatitia Vriesde
Pat Matzdorf
Richard Attlesey
Roger Kingdom

191st (1 vote 16 points)
Christine Ohourogu
Dana Zatopekova
Falilat Ogunkoya
Mehdi Baala
Moses Kiptanui
Nick Rose
Ollie Matson
Sanya Richards
Thierrry Vigneron
Vladimir Yashchenko
Wang Junxia
Wolfgand Schmidt

203rd (1 vote 15 points)
Auden Boysen
Bruce Jenner
Eliud Kipchoge
Fumni Jimoh
Jonni Myrra
Vladamir Kuts
Wim Slijkhuis

210th - (1 vote 14 points)
Briana Glen
Dawn Harper
Ernie Shelton
Gerry Moro
Helena Fibingerova
Jeff Williams
Joseph Plachy
Lee Evans
Maxim Dyaldin

219th (1 vote 13 points)
Harry Jerome
Jim Brewer
Russel Adams
Saif Saaed Shaheen
Tiina Lillak

224th (1 vote 12 points)
Butch Reynolds
Chandra Stirrup
Drew Fucci
Dylan Armstrong
Fabianna Murer
Fernando Ribiero
Francoise Mbango
Henry Carr
Joe Faust
Lolo Jones
Otis Davis
Suzie Favor Hamilton
Walter George

237th (1 Vote 11 points)
Alvin Kraenzlein
Chris Brasher
Daniel Komen
Dayron Robles
Doug Olmstead
Ellen Van Langen
Gordon Pirie
Hasna Benhassi
Janis Lusis
Jeurgen Hingsen
Kate Schmidt
Randy Matson
Shiela Hudson
Steve Hooker
Yargelis Savigne

252nd (1 Vote 10 points)
Carrie Tollefson
Don Bragg
Jo Dial
Johnny Kuch
Mike Marsh
Miruts Yifter
Olga Fitova Connoly
Romain Barras

260th (1 Vote 9 Points)
Alan Pascoe
Andrew Wheating
Astrid Kumbernuss
Harold Connelly
Inger Miller
Irving Saladino
Jen Rhimes
Katrin Krabbe
Kylie Hutson
Mike Connelly
Patrick Sjoberg
Paul Drayton
Robert Korzeniowski

273rd (1 Vote 8 Points)
Adulf Plummer
Anne Packer
Asafa Powell
Betty Cuthbert
Bob Beamon
Bob Schull
Chante Howard
Dave Wottle
Dwain Chambers
Eva Glescova
George Rhoden
Inga Babakova
Ionel Tirlea
Iva Prandzeva
Jen Barringer
Jenn Suhr
Jeurgen Shult
Kris Akabusi
Lawrence Myers
Natasha Kaiser Brown
Quentin Cassidy
Rick Wolhouter
Tony Jarret

296th (1 Vote, 7 Points)
Alain Mimoun
Carlo Thranhart
Donovan Bailey
Dwight Phillips
Heidi Rosenthal
Herb McKinley
Illona Slupienek
Jessie Stewart
John Smith
Justin Gatlin
Kevin Little
Lydia Simon
Olga Kaniskina
Percy Williams
Renauld Levellanie
Robert Harting
Werner Gunthur

313th (1 Vote, 6 Points)
Andrey Perlov
Anisora Stanciu
Arthur Wint
Eddie Southern
Hayden Jones
Jan Johnson
John Carlos
John Landy
Jordan Hassay
Lazaro Borgia
Llewlyn Herbert
Lynn Davies
Nikki Xanthou
Phillips Idowu
Rosie Ackerman
Ruis Silver
Sean Crawford
Sunder Nix
Vladislav Kozakiewicz
Yuriy Sedyk

333rd (1 Vote, 5 Points)
Bob Kennedy
Glenn 'Slats' Hardin
Jerome Drayton
Jiri Shobla
Jutt Heine
Kip Javonin
Lorraine Fenton
Mike Boit
Milt Cambell
Mondo Duplanis
Peter Blank
Phil Brown
Rutger Smith
Sohn Kee-chung
Willie Davenport
Yerelis Barrios

349th (1 Vote, 4 Points)
Agnes Samaria
Al Cantello
Alberto Salazar
Anke Behmer
Bridget Foster
Browning Ross
Chris Solinsky
Dionne Hemmings
Emma George
Kim Batten
Lauren Williams
Murry Halberg
Natalya Antyuk
Paul Ereng
Rob Milburn
Sally Gunnell
Sydney Maree
Tom Courtney

367th (1 Vote, 3 points)
Armin Harry
Christian Taylor
Francis Obikwelu
Leamon King
Lopez Lomong
Marcuss O'Sullivan
Mark Plaatjes
Mike Carter
Perdita Felicien
Quincy Watts
Sergie Litvinov
Skip Sheaffer
Ted Corbey
Walter Dix

381st (1 vote, 2 points)
Barbel Wochel
Bob Deines
Brittany Reece
Chi Cheng
Dennis Carr
Javier Sotomayer
Jessica Augusto
Kayoko Fukushi
Marion Kolosa
Mark Richardson
Paul Wilson
Tatyana Kotova
Thomas Wessinghage
Tom Pukstys

395th (1 Vote 1 Point)
Adhemar Ferreira da Silva
Anthony Famiglianni
Asha Hanson
Charles Kilpatrick
Craig Mottram
Dallas Long
Dick Fosbury
Fermin Cacho
George Woods
Ingrid Kristiansen
Joe Green
John Pennel
Kemal Thompson
Larry Myricks
Lj Van Zyl
Luis Delis
Meserat Defar
Monica Cabbler
Norwood Ewell
Ray Ewery
Reiko Tosa
Ricky Branch
Sammy Wanjiru
Shingeru So
Steve Barnes
Trine Hattestad
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No2

Postby Tuariki » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:28 am

preston wrote:
SQUACKEE wrote:I'm glad the athlete who deserved no.1 got it! Athough Pre would have been a great choice as well. 8-)

Deserved? That wasn't part of the exercise. This was about personal favorites. The #1 pick and #10 pick are nearly equal in my eyes.


Just as well for the Pre fans that this was a ranking of your favourite athlete and therefore no standards of performance required. If a minimum qualification of:

* A world championship; or
*A world record; or
* An Olympic championship

was a requirement to be on the list then of the top 25 athletes in the list only Prefontaine would miss out. I knew Pre, although not particularly well, but did have a couple of drinks with him a few times. Our paths crossed a number of times between 1970 - 1974 as WSU and Oregon were often competing together. The man has been turned into a legend. He was a very very good runner. But he never achieved greatness as his untimely death took away that possibility.
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No2

Postby Marlow » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:33 am

Daisy wrote:69th (4 votes 39 points)
Stacy Dragila

I missed this. So what you're saying here is that there's only 3 other sane people who voted?
This planet would be in sorry hands if y'all were left in charge!!!! :twisted:
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No2

Postby Tuariki » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:39 am

What was the greatest surprise in the favourites listing for me?

It was the fact that the most favoured athlete only got votes from 17 out of 50 people who voted. Or 17 out of the 1,000 possible votes - given we all effectively had 20 votes. The 33 who did not vote for Gebreselassie had 660 chances to vote for him.

With mump allowing us to vote for 20 athletes I find it quite astonishing that given the way he has transformed TnF that Usain Bolt could only get votes from 14 of the 50 people who voted. Which means 36 voters had 720 opportunities to vote for Bolt but didn't.

This is just me musing after 4 long months.
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No2

Postby DecFan » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:53 am

Tuariki wrote:What was the greatest surprise in the favourites listing for me?

It was the fact that the most favoured athlete only got votes from 17 out of 50 people who voted.


This turned out to be the unexpected beauty of the exercise: Reading about how a group of serious t & f fans have remarkably different lists of favorite athletes - especially learning about those favorite athletes of whom I had never heard. I'm glad our lists were so diverse.
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No2

Postby SQUACKEE » Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:00 am

preston wrote:
SQUACKEE wrote:I'm glad the athlete who deserved no.1 got it! Athough Pre would have been a great choice as well. 8-)

Deserved? That wasn't part of the exercise. This was about personal favorites. The #1 pick and #10 pick are nearly equal in my eyes.


What should be obvious is I meant deserved to be personal favorite, ya big silly! :lol:
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No2

Postby Conor Dary » Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:01 am

In the end this seems pretty anti climatic. This thread went on for eons and in the end the WINNER got 17 votes. Let's have a parade!
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No2

Postby 26mi235 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:16 am

I had the top two, as well as seven others in the top 25
5 more in the 26-100
0 in the 100s
3 in the 200s
3 in the 300s

This was not a surprise, as three of mine were sure to be at the bottom, with low votes from me, and 3 others had higher votes from me as their only ones; the rest of mine had at least 4 votes and almost half had 7 or more.
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No2

Postby TN1965 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:33 am

Tuariki wrote:What was the greatest surprise in the favourites listing for me?

It was the fact that the most favoured athlete only got votes from 17 out of 50 people who voted. Or 17 out of the 1,000 possible votes - given we all effectively had 20 votes. The 33 who did not vote for Gebreselassie had 660 chances to vote for him.

With mump allowing us to vote for 20 athletes I find it quite astonishing that given the way he has transformed TnF that Usain Bolt could only get votes from 14 of the 50 people who voted. Which means 36 voters had 720 opportunities to vote for Bolt but didn't.

This is just me musing after 4 long months.


Given the wide range of choice we have (male and females atheltes in so many different events that span over a century), I am not surprised that "only" 17 of 50 people voted for the most popular choice. Actually, it was remarkable that over one-third of people picked the same athletes (two of them). If this poll were on the favorite distance runners, of course far more people would pick Geb, including myself.
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No2

Postby donley2 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:37 am

I think I somehow was a "populist" in this voting. I had six of the top seven on my list.
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No2

Postby LopenUupunut » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:00 pm

TN1965 wrote:Given the wide range of choice we have (male and females atheltes in so many different events that span over a century), I am not surprised that "only" 17 of 50 people voted for the most popular choice. Actually, it was remarkable that over one-third of people picked the same athletes (two of them).
Right, I wouldn't have been at all surprised if something like 12 votes had been enough to win.

I didn't have anybody in the top 25, but that wasn't really surprising either :) As far as I can see I was the only one to pick a walker (Korzeniowski) - I guess MJR didn't participate :)
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No2

Postby mump boy » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:09 pm

I'd just like to say thank you to everyone for taking part in this and for the most part keeping it civil. Despite attempts at disruption by a few people at the beginning it's actually turned out rather well and certainly kept us entertained over the winter months. It's been informative, educational and extremely stressful.

There will be another one of these next year with a little more organisation :P i'm open to ideas for subjects

in a few days i'll begin posting people's individual lists take the opportunity to comment on them if you wish to

I'll also work out lists by points instead of votes, of male/female, country, event etc, unless someone want to do it for me (please someone do it for me) also an average vote for people with more than 5 votes.
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No2

Postby LopenUupunut » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:21 pm

mump boy wrote:I'll also work out lists by points instead of votes, of male/female, country, event etc, unless someone want to do it for me (please someone do it for me) also an average vote for people with more than 5 votes.
I can list them by event (or at least event group) but I don't promise to do anything else :wink:
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No1

Postby LopenUupunut » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:31 pm

mump - what happened to Glenn Hardin? You originally listed him as "Glen Stathardin" and then said he'd appear later with the right name and the right points but he never turned up...
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No2

Postby Daisy » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:36 pm

Here is a list of our favorite favourites. To qualify the athlete needed 5 or more votes. Their points were then divided by the number of votes. The maximum score is 20.

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points/ position  name   votes  points
votes   
17.6   44th   Marita Koch   5   88
17     45th   Tommie Smith   5   85
15.7   22nd   Valeriy Brummel    7   110
15.4   23rd   Steve Prefontaine   7   108
15.4   23rd   Frank Shorter   7   108
14.5    5th   Jackie Joyner Kersee   13   189
14.5   34th   Abebe Bikila    6   87
14.3    6th   Carl Lewis    13   186
14     25th   Jesse Owens    7   98
13.4    8th   Cathy Freeman    11   148
13.3   20th   Ana Quirot   8   107
13.2    9th   Merlene Ottey    11   146
13     15th   Steve Ovett   9   117
12.6    1st   Haile Gebrselassie    17   214
12.5   10th   Paula Radcliffe   11   138
12.4   46th   Ron Clark   5   62
12.3   35th   Kip Keino    6   74
12.1   11th   Emil Zátopek   11   134
12     13th   Maria Mutola   10   120
12     16th   Seb Coe    9   108
12     36th   Renaldo Nehemiah   6   72
11.7   12th   Daley Thompson   11   129
11.7   17th   Jim Ryun    9   106
11.7  T26th   Kelly Holmes   7   82
11.7  T26th   Paavo Nurmi   7   82
11.6   37th   Carolina Kluft   6   70
11.6   47th   Brian Olfield   5   58
11.5   28th   Bernard Lagat   7   81
11.4    7th   Evelyn Ashford    13   149
11.2    2nd   Edwin Moses    17   191
11.2   14th   Al Oerter   10   112
11.2   29th   Irena Szewinska   7   79
11.1    3rd   Michael Johnson    14   156
11.1   30th   Florence Griffiths Joyner   7   78
10.5   38th   Roman Sebrle    6   63
10.3  T39th   Sergie Bubka   6   62
10.3  T39th   Dan O'Brien   6   62
10.2   31st   Herb Elliot   7   72
10.1   18th   Peter Snell    9   91
10     48th   Valerie Adams   5   50
9.5    32nd   Gail Devers   7   67
9.4    33rd   Wilson Kipketer    7   66
9.4    49th   Lui Xiang   5   47
9.3    41st   Jonathon Edwards   6   56
9.2    50th   Henry Rono   5   46
9.1    19th   Heike Drechsler   9   82
9      42nd   Allen Johnson   6   54
8.8     4th   Usain Bolt   14   124
8.8    21st   Jessica Ennis   8   71
8.2    51st   Alberto Juanterena   5   41
7.8    52nd   Lasse Viren   5   39
7.6    53rd   Mo Farah   5   38
7.5    43rd   Mary Slaney   6   45
6.4    54th   Greta Waitz   5   32
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No2

Postby mump boy » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:57 pm

Daisy wrote:Here is a list of our favorite favourites. To qualify the athlete needed 5 or more votes. Their points were then divided by the number of votes. The maximum score is 20.
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points/ position  name   votes  points
votes   
17.6   44th   Marita Koch   5   88
17     45th   Tommie Smith   5   85
15.7   22nd   Valeriy Brummel    7   110
15.4   23rd   Steve Prefontaine   7   108
15.4   23rd   Frank Shorter   7   108
14.5   5th    Jackie Joyner Kersee   13   189
14.3   6th    Carl Lewis    13   186
14     25th   Jesse Owens    7   98
14.5   34th   Abebe Bikila    6   87
13.4   8th    Cathy Freeman    11   148
13.2   9th    Merlene Ottey    11   146
13     15th   Steve Ovett   9   117
13.3   20th   Ana Quirot   8   107
12.5   10th   Paula Radcliffe   11   138
12.1   11th   Emil Zátopek   11   134
12     13th   Maria Mutola   10   120
12     16th   Seb Coe    9   108
12.3   35th   Kip Keino    6   74
12     36th   Renaldo Nehemiah   6   72
12.4   46th   Ron Clark   5   62
11.2   2nd    Edwin Moses    17   191
11.4   7th    Evelyn Ashford    13   149
11.7   12th   Daley Thompson   11   129
11.2   14th   Al Oerter   10   112
11.7   17th   Jim Ryun    9   106
11.7   T26th  Kelly Holmes   7   82
11.7   T26th  Paavo Nurmi   7   82
11.5   28th   Bernard Lagat   7   81
11.2   29th   Irena Szewinska   7   79
11.1   30th   Florence Griffiths Joyner   7   78
11.6   37th   Carolina Kluft   6   70
11.6   47th   Brian Olfield   5   58
10.1   18th   Peter Snell    9   91
10.2   31st   Herb Elliot   7   72
10.5   38th   Roman Sebrle    6   63
10.3   T39th  Sergie Bubka   6   62
10.3   T39th  Dan O'Brien   6   62
10     48th   Valerie Adams   5   50
9.1    19th   Heike Drechsler   9   82
9.5    32nd   Gail Devers   7   67
9.4    33rd   Wilson Kipketer    7   66
9.3    41st   Jonathon Edwards   6   56
9      42nd   Allen Johnson   6   54
9.4    49th   Lui Xiang   5   47
9.2    50th   Henry Rono   5   46
8.8    4th    Usain Bolt   14   124
8.8    21st   Jessica Ennis   8   71
8.2    51st   Alberto Juanterena   5   41
7.5    43rd   Mary Slaney   6   45
7.8    52nd   Lasse Viren   5   39
7.6    53rd   Mo Farah   5   38
6.4    54th   Greta Waitz   5   32
4      3rd    Michael Johnson    14   156


you're so in charge of counting next year :-)

but Michael Johnson must be wrong, he's 11.1 :P

Haile is 13.2
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No1

Postby mump boy » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:58 pm

LopenUupunut wrote:mump - what happened to Glenn Hardin? You originally listed him as "Glen Stathardin" and then said he'd appear later with the right name and the right points but he never turned up...


Not sure where he went i'll check tomorrow :)
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No2

Postby mump boy » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:59 pm

LopenUupunut wrote:
mump boy wrote:I'll also work out lists by points instead of votes, of male/female, country, event etc, unless someone want to do it for me (please someone do it for me) also an average vote for people with more than 5 votes.
I can list them by event (or at least event group) but I don't promise to do anything else :wink:


Team effort, i like the sound of that :D
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No2

Postby Daisy » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:14 pm

mump boy wrote:you're so in charge of counting next year :-)

Except my table was completely screwed up
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No2

Postby mump boy » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:31 pm

Daisy wrote:
mump boy wrote:you're so in charge of counting next year :-)

Except my table was completely screwed up


exactly, we don't want to change things too much next time, where's the fun in that :D
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No1

Postby EastBayprepoftheweek67 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:49 pm

Ode to Rafer Johnson:

How sad - not a single vote for Rafer Johnson.
But, wait, I voted for Rafer Johnson.
How sad - a single vote for Rafer Johnson not counted.
But, wait, even Santa checks twice.
The crowds cry out,
Give Rafer his due, a tie for 190th place.
He earned no less.
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No1

Postby dukehjsteve » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:16 pm

And I'm still embarrassed that I was the only voter egotistical enough to vote for him or herself, albeit in 20th place.
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No1

Postby Fortius19 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:06 pm

dukehjsteve wrote:And I'm still embarrassed that I was the only voter egotistical enough to vote for him or herself, albeit in 20th place.


Don't be! It's good to like yourself! :)

Plus, 6' 5" back in '65 was a great jump!
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No1

Postby Daisy » Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:28 pm

Fortius19 wrote:
dukehjsteve wrote:And I'm still embarrassed that I was the only voter egotistical enough to vote for him or herself, albeit in 20th place.

Don't be! It's good to like yourself! :)

Seriously, it's great you did it! What i want to know is why didn't mojo vote for her DH?
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No1

Postby Marlow » Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:44 pm

So my Top 5 finished

1. 69th
2. 57th
3. 5th
4. 36th
5. 96th

so, y'know, I got that goin' for me . . . :oops:
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No1

Postby Pego » Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:37 pm

Here is my top 5.

1. 11
2. 7
3. 185
4. 28
5. 202

The highest placement I got was with my #9 who placed 5th. My #3 was Shura Chudina, #5 Dana Zátopková.

Reason for not voting for some regulars on this board was that I somehow assumed you should have followed the athlete's career, in retrospect an invalid consideration.
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No1

Postby DrJay » Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:33 pm

Alright, who were some of the greats that got no votes?
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No1

Postby Daisy » Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:37 pm

DrJay wrote:Alright, who were some of the greats that got no votes?

Wes Santee
Rafer Johnson
Wyomia Tyus
Gerd Kanter
Maurice Greene
Johnny Gray
David Rudisha
Greg Foster
Harald Schmidt
Craig Virgin
Lynn Jennings
Raylene Boyle
Tiina Lillak
David Hemery
Eric Liddell
Filbert Bayi
Valeri Borzov
Viktor Saneyev
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No1

Postby Grasshopper » Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:22 pm

DrJay wrote:Alright, who were some of the greats that got no votes?

I didn't participate (came into this late) but I was surprised to see that Kevin Young isn't on the list. I haven't looked very closely yet, but how many other world record holders didn't make the list?
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No1

Postby Daisy » Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:46 pm

Grasshopper wrote:how many other world record holders didn't make the list?

Randy Barnes
Qu Yunxia
Gulnara Samitova-Galkina
Yuliya Pechonkina
Stefka Kostadinova
Galina Chistyakova
Inessa Kravets
Natalya Lisovskaya
Gabriele Reinsch
Betty Heidler
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No2

Postby El Toro » Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:44 am

mump boy wrote:It's been informative, educational and extremely stressful.

There will be another one of these next year with a little more organisation :P


No need to stress - collecting and counting this sort of data is pretty easy and no need for special software or skills.

Get people to submit structured data in something like a delimited text file, which anybody on any computer can easily produce. Then paste the data into a spreadsheet and convert text to columns. You now have data that a simple pivot table can use to count unique names (=votes) and sum the inividual rankings(=points) and sort in order.

Ten minutes, go to whoa! You might have to do some initial checking on misspellings, name changes, reversal of Asian names etc but all quite simple.

This is the lowest effort and lowest requirement for technical skills for both sender and receiver - anybody with spreadsheet skills can show you how.

You can then spend more time planning the teasing releases rather than trying to get the count right. :D
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No1

Postby nevetsllim » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:08 am

Really pleased Mutola finished inside the top-15. :) I knew she's very respected but I didn't expect her to reach double figures in votes.

And a big thanks for organising the thread, Mump! It's been a great history lesson and I'll look forward to the next one.
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No2

Postby mump boy » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:24 am

El Toro wrote:
mump boy wrote:It's been informative, educational and extremely stressful.

There will be another one of these next year with a little more organisation :P


No need to stress - collecting and counting this sort of data is pretty easy and no need for special software or skills.

Get people to submit structured data in something like a delimited text file, which anybody on any computer can easily produce. Then paste the data into a spreadsheet and convert text to columns. You now have data that a simple pivot table can use to count unique names (=votes) and sum the inividual rankings(=points) and sort in order.

Ten minutes, go to whoa! You might have to do some initial checking on misspellings, name changes, reversal of Asian names etc but all quite simple.

This is the lowest effort and lowest requirement for technical skills for both sender and receiver - anybody with spreadsheet skills can show you how.

You can then spend more time planning the teasing releases rather than trying to get the count right. :D


you lost me at 'delimited text file' :?
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Re: T T&FN Forum Favourite Athletes: THE RESULTS No1

Postby DecFan » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:34 am

Daisy wrote:
DrJay wrote:Alright, who were some of the greats that got no votes?


Tiina Lillak


Lillak had 1 vote, 13 points, but her name is misspelled: Tina Lilaak
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