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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby chuku69 » Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:52 pm

Avante wrote:Predictions

Bolt could lose to100m to Blake..so gold or silver.
He will win the gold in the 200m
He will win the gold in the 4x1, if Jama doesn't......drop the stick/get DQed
If he runs a leg.....and they could just plug him in the final.....he will medal.

How's he doing right now, what meets he's in........none of that matters.


Blake will have to run a sub 9.6 to seriously challenge Bolt in London on that super fast track. if Blake happens to run 9.6 Bolt will run 9.4 high or low 9.5. Whatever Blake runs, Bolt will win by at least .1
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby JumboElliott » Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:07 pm

How do you know London is a "super fast track"?

Do you remember Sydney? What world records were set at that Olympics?
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby 26mi235 » Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:52 pm

And what if the conditions are 19C -1/5mps wind? A 9.8 winner could be in the cards.
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby 72 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:18 am

if the temperature at the time of the 100m final is 19C it will be pretty freakish; far more likely at 13/15 C with a non favourable or over favourable wind. Reasonable chance of rain.

The track was NOT designed to be super fast; more a compromise beteeen the preferences of the long distance runners and the sprinters.

However if the sprint fans want to believe in a 9.6 100m time thats OK; just very unlikely :lol:
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby JumboElliott » Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:28 am

One must not forget that the final will be at night.

Looking at the weather almanac for August 6, the date of the final and I'm not exactly seeing ideal conditions

Average high temperature: 21°
Average low temperature: 12°
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby chuku69 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:35 am

JumboElliott wrote:How do you know London is a "super fast track"?

Do you remember Sydney? What world records were set at that Olympics?


http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... v6d_A1r9ig

The makers of the track said it is like bejing's track but faster!!! Not sure if this is the article, but i read it last yr. abt them stating this track is very fast.
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby JumboElliott » Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:56 am

Do you think that the company making the track is going to say: "our track is going to be slow!"

Absolutely not.
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby ZELLGADISS » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:13 am

If the wind in the final is not negative(i hope around +1.0 or better), Bolt will get 9.6 minimum :wink:
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby eDJon20 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:17 pm

Are people normally this wild with their predictions on this forum. :lol:
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby JumboElliott » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:22 pm

Usually only the Bolt fanboys
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby toyracer » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:37 pm

notorious wrote:Regarding your first question, Bolt and his management team are not required to give any of us updates as to what he does off the track. If he decides to “skip” a lowkey meet to go for a doctor checkup, I believe it is his business and no need for us to question it. He has been seeing his German specialist doctor for years. Go and research this.


How things change...was it just two years ago that Asafa was part of a process that ended up at the Fair Trading Commission because he pulled out of a meet (I believe it was the Grace Jackson) days before the event because of injury? People were upset then because they bought tickets for the meet because Asafa was scheduled to run, but now Bolt can do the same thing and "it's his business" and folks are wrong to ask questions?

Ironic.
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby t_monk » Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:54 pm

toyracer wrote:
notorious wrote:Regarding your first question, Bolt and his management team are not required to give any of us updates as to what he does off the track. If he decides to “skip” a lowkey meet to go for a doctor checkup, I believe it is his business and no need for us to question it. He has been seeing his German specialist doctor for years. Go and research this.


How things change...was it just two years ago that Asafa was part of a process that ended up at the Fair Trading Commission because he pulled out of a meet (I believe it was the Grace Jackson) days before the event because of injury? People were upset then because they bought tickets for the meet because Asafa was scheduled to run, but now Bolt can do the same thing and "it's his business" and folks are wrong to ask questions?

Ironic.


*shrugs*

Selective memory...
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby notorious » Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:01 pm

Bolt says everything is good and he is expected to run in the 4 x 100m and 4 x 400m this Saturday at the Gibson Relays at the National Stadium in Kingston.

I hope this now puts to rest the aimless speculation about him being injured.



http://www.trackalerts.com/index.php/ne ... ng-is-good
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby chuku69 » Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:35 am

JumboElliott wrote:Do you think that the company making the track is going to say: "our track is going to be slow!"

Absolutely not.


Look everyone says the track is very fast, Coe, England, etc. I if u don't want to believe it fine but the track is very fast period.
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby JumboElliott » Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:26 pm

My school installed artificial turf that they claimed would decrease injury, but injuries doubled the next season.

Everyone you've mentioned has a stake in the performance of the surface. You'll only know when someone runs on it.
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby 26mi235 » Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:38 pm

chuku69 wrote:
JumboElliott wrote:Do you think that the company making the track is going to say: "our track is going to be slow!"

Absolutely not.


Look everyone says the track is very fast, Coe, England, etc. I if u don't want to believe it fine but the track is very fast period.


So, can we write Bolt's record obituary if he only runs 9.7 or, horrors, 9.8 this summer because he is on the fastest track on the fastest stage and if that is all he can muster, then his peak days are done....
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Postby tm71 » Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:38 pm

Are people normally this wild with their predictions on this forum ?

YES, they are this delusional ! it is unlikely that the track laid down is not going to be fast, but the conditions (temp and wind) will not be conducive to any record breaking performances.
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby ZELLGADISS » Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:20 am

Greene told that track in London is very fast too.
We will be sure 100% when beging OG of course.

We will see the shape of Bolt when he begins his season in 100.
If he gets 9.9 he will be in shape of 2010-2011 and he did 9.76 with very bad start in brussels.
If he gets 9.8 in his first races he could get 9.7 in the season and perhaps 9.6 in London with good weather and wind.

Is bad to make predictions?

Is my opinion :wink:
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby chuku69 » Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:52 am

As stated b4 if the makers said the track is made with similar materials to Beijing's track and is faster with even better technology. Why is this so hard to understand. Nobody has to run on the track to know if it is fast or not based on what the makers said, but it was validated by ppl who ran on the track and said it felt fast (eg. England, Coe).
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby 26mi235 » Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:20 am

Well, because you have to take what people in those positions say with a grain of salt.

But, let's give you that, and if Bolt runs a mere 9.57 there it is a sign that he peaked in 2009 and is on the downward slide apparently illustrated by his performances since 2009.

Similar materials -- does that mean in exactly the same proportion/manner? Maybe the track is 'tuned' a little differently so that it is better for middle distance and distance, areas where the Brits have been relative better for the last half century or more.
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby chuku69 » Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:43 am

26mi235 wrote:Well, because you have to take what people in those positions say with a grain of salt.

But, let's give you that, and if Bolt runs a mere 9.57 there it is a sign that he peaked in 2009 and is on the downward slide apparently illustrated by his performances since 2009.

Similar materials -- does that mean in exactly the same proportion/manner? Maybe the track is 'tuned' a little differently so that it is better for middle distance and distance, areas where the Brits have been relative better for the last half century or more.


It's not just them it is the DESIGNER of the track. He says its fast. They build it to accommodate both sprinters and long distance runners. Here is the link http://youtu.be/w6o97L_yl9I. Feel free to criticize again sigh :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby JumboElliott » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:36 pm

Do you not understand that the person who designed the track has a stake in the success of it and he's trying to sell a product?
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby 26mi235 » Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:48 pm

chuku69 wrote:It's not just them it is the DESIGNER of the track. He says its fast. They build it to accommodate both sprinters and long distance runners. Here is the link http://youtu.be/w6o97L_yl9I. Feel free to criticize again sigh :roll: :roll: :roll:


That is exactly what I meant - he is supposed to say "we made a track that would be reliable and yield results that are not way to fast so that the sprint times would not be outliers..."...
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby notorious » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:58 pm

Just announced that Usain Bolt will not take part in this saturday's Gibson Relays :cry:
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby chuku69 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:15 pm

Wow it seems like 2011 all over again. He seems like he will not race until May.
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby notorious » Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:18 pm

chuku69 wrote:Wow it seems like 2011 all over again. He seems like he will not race until May.


You are correct. I don't have a problem with that.
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby t_monk » Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:19 pm

I am not too worried about him just yet because he is Bolt... That being said... If this continues on to the Jamaica International Invitational track meet... I will be VERY concerned.
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby chuku69 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:23 pm

t_monk wrote:I am not too worried about him just yet because he is Bolt... That being said... If this continues on to the Jamaica International Invitational track meet... I will be VERY concerned.


Agreed. If he doesn't run on May 5 then there is definitely a problem. As of now, i will take coach mills word that he is not injured.
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby t_monk » Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:39 pm

chuku69 wrote:
t_monk wrote:I am not too worried about him just yet because he is Bolt... That being said... If this continues on to the Jamaica International Invitational track meet... I will be VERY concerned.


Agreed. If he doesn't run on May 5 then there is definitely a problem. As of now, i will take coach mills word that he is not injured.


I don't buy that he's not injured. I think he is either injured (something minor I am hoping) or just feeling something and Glenn Mills don't want to push him. Mills wouldn't allow Bolt to just miss meets like that.

For one it is bad for business in a sense for Bolt or any star athlete to just be pulling out of meets, it makes Bolt and his management team seem just plain flaky or disrespectful unless there is a genuine reason.

Two these meets are actually important (or at least that's what I would think) to just get the rusts out, to see how you are and to just get yourself out there. One can argue of course that he is part of Racers that have some of the best track athletes between 100 and 400, that being said though there is nothing like an ACTUAL competition.

And another thing to note... If he is actually intending on running the 4x400, he would need to run some 400's or 4x400's. I would think running these meets would help make the argument for him be even more overwhelming to get him on that 4x400.
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby t_monk » Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:49 pm

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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby notorious » Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:10 pm

I believe it is just a nice PC excuse. However, I am not too concerned. If he misses his meets in May(Jamaica Invitational and Rome DL then, I will be very concerned since the Olympic Trials are in June.
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby ZELLGADISS » Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:00 am

I repeat, if in his first 100m on the season he gets around 9.91 like in 2011, he will be only 90% this year and "only" will get 9.7 this year.
If he gets around 9.80-9.85 in his first 100m, he can get sub 9.7 this year :wink:
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby ATK » Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:58 am

I'm 85 percent sure that bolt is injured in some way shape or form. Even if its just a niggle, they just don't want to let the public know so it won't cause an outburst. Bolts business is track, his job is to compete.
But like someone said, he is Bolt so even if he is not in top form, he will still pull out great races relative to the competition.
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby ZELLGADISS » Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:40 am

I dont think that Bolt is injuried.
But perhaps Bolt is having some little problems in his back or in his shape so they dont want have a possible injury running now.
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Re: Usain Bolt's 2012 Track Schedule

Postby chuku69 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:04 am

I think this is funny discussing Bolt's injured or not injured because i feel when May comes around and he fires a 9.7, then this will be all forgotten.
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