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Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby shivfan » Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:10 am

"Powell set tongues wagging with a 5.64 50m in New York at the end of January and the powerful Jamaican will be keen to confirm he is a serious contender indoors when he takes on Lerone Clarke, the current world leader over 60m plus two other compatriots in Nesta Carter and Michael Frater. Clarke is clearly in form after clocking 6.50 to beat Christophe Lemaitre in Liévin this week so Powell may have to lower his 2004 PB of 6.56 to claim the win. American Trell Kimmons and the ever-willing Kim Collins head the non-Jamaican challengers, while Britain's Andrew Robertson will test himself against the world's elite after finishing second to Dwain Chambers at the UK championships. Tiana Madison will be looking to confirm her form in the women's race after leaping to the top of the world rankings with 7.02 last weekend. The American, a world long jump champion back in 2005, faces Bianca Knight, who won here last year, Ivet Lalova of Bulgaria and Jamaican Aleen Bailey. As for Robles and Xiang, it will be the first time the pair have faced each other since the World Championships in Daegu last summer, where Xiang took silver after Robles was disqualified, despite finishing first. Robles currently trails Xiang 7-5 in head-to-head contests, and the Cuban is looking to level the score by the end of the World Indoors in Istanbul. Xiang is making his first appearance at the NIA since taking World Indoor bronze here in 2003 as a fresh-faced 19-year-old. The line-up also includes American's Aries Merritt and Dexter Faulk, plus Britain's new young champion Andy Pozzi."

http://www.iaaf.org/Mini/WIC12/News/New ... x?id=63619
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby wineturtle » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:54 pm

Will the meet be streamed live in the USA? I think it's an afternoon event so 8 AM EST ?
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby shivfan » Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:46 am

Mens 60 heats

Powell 6.49
Collins and kimmons next.
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby ZELLGADISS » Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:49 am

Hehe 6.50 and with relaxation. 0.170 reaction time.
If he gets good start in the final he can get 6.45 hehe, Asafa is great starter ;)
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby shivfan » Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:55 am

Carter wins second heat in 6.50.

Lerone clarke second maybe frater third.
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby shivfan » Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:01 am

Confirmed times

Powell 6.50

Carter 6.51
Clarke 6.52

Going into final in two hours time.
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby ZELLGADISS » Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:18 am

Umm interesting, perhaps in the final 2 or 3 runners will be in sub 6.5.
I have feel wach it :D
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby wineturtle » Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:25 am

1 Angelika CICHOCKA POL 2:01.90 SB

2 Elisa CUSMA ITA 2:01.99

3 Marilyn OKORO GBR 2:02.62 SB

4 Lenka MASNA CZE 2:03.01

5 Tara BIRD GBR 2:04.57 PB

6 Winny CHEBET KEN 2:05.26 PB

Morgan UCENY USA DQ ?????????reason

Vicky GRIFFITHS GBR DNF
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby toyracer » Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:36 am

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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby shivfan » Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:56 am

That was a bizarre men's 400m!
:D
Brenes leading into the backstraight, trips and falls, Levine passes him to win, Chris Brown second.

1) Levine 45.72
2) Brown
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby roixordo » Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:03 am

Robles RT was 0.009 ??
1 Liu XIANG CHN 7.41 0.154 NR
2 Dayron ROBLES CUB 7.50 0.009 SB
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby shivfan » Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:07 am

Wow...clarke wins in 6.47. Carter second and powell third.
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby Jlin17 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:11 am

Lerone Clarke 6.47 new national Record, dude means business, his exicution was splendid.. cant wait to see him on the 100 circuit..
Carter 6.49
Powell 6.50

it was a quality race all three top finishers pushed it to the limit but Lerone Has the most experience running indoors and it showed with his execution over the distance..
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby chuku69 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:14 am

Wat do u mean wow. Are u surprised? As i told ppl b4 Powell is just a great one off runner. Period. He surely better watch out @ trials because he might be beaten into 4th. I keep saying this over and over again like a broken record. The man simple just performs differently when there are more than 1 race for a day. He doesn't perform better when there is a race 2 hrs in between. I don't expect him to win the world indoors based on this fact. Period.
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby Jlin17 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:24 am

So Clarke just set a National record, and Powell just ran a PR over 60m twice in one day but lets focus on Powell and not the great improvement Clarke has made.. did you see the composer ? did he switch coaches or something ?
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby Marlow » Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:25 am

chuku69 wrote:Wat do u mean wow. Are u surprised? As i told ppl b4

Did the cost of letters go up AGAIN?! A pox on the post office!
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby chuku69 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:34 am

Jlin17 wrote:So Clarke just set a National record, and Powell just ran a PR over 60m twice in one day but lets focus on Powell and not the great improvement Clarke has made.. did you see the composer ? did he switch coaches or something ?


Yup with this form Clarke should win the world indoors next month. For Powell's sake i hope he wins though because that is gonna be his only major title that he will win.
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby notorious » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:36 am

Again, Powell fails to deliver as stated by the BBC commentator. The race is on youtube.

Lerone Clarke in fact came from behind to beat Powell. Both Powell and Carter looked "spaced out" after the race.


Clarke, another sprinter in Jamaica's arsenal for London. Unfortunatley, regardless of how fast he runs outdoor, he will probably only good enough to be on the relay for London
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby chuku69 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:43 am

notorious wrote:Again, Powell fails to deliver. The race is on youtube.

Lerone Clarke in fact came from behind to beat Powell. Both Powell and Carter looked "spaced out" after the race.


lol. I thought i was the only one notice that. It seems like they saying wat da hell just happened. I've been wanting to say this since last yr but it has been confirm to me (in my opinion) that Powell has surely now lost a step on his explosive start.
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby notorious » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:51 am

With impressive wins in Arkansas, Lievin and now Birmingham, Clarke can now be considered the favorite for the 60m at the WIC in Istanbul in March.
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby notorious » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:59 am

Tiana Madson won the 60m in 7.07
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby 26mi235 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:01 am

chuku69 wrote: I keep saying this over and over again like a broken record. The man simple just performs differently when there are more than 1 race for a day. He doesn't perform better when there is a race 2 hrs in between. I don't expect him to win the world indoors based on this fact. Period.


Really, no wonder that 9.79/0.1 was so pedestrian ( :D ) after he burned himself out with a WR that was wind-adjusted inferior to his final.
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby Alan Shank » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:50 am

So, nobody saw this??

What's with:

Uceny DQ in 800
Robles .009 reaction in 60H

Lose the stupid two mile!!!
Cheers,
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby gh » Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:37 pm

chuku69 wrote:Wat do u mean wow. Are u surprised? As i told ppl b4 Powell is just a great one off runner. Period. He surely better watch out @ trials because he might be beaten into 4th. I keep saying this over and over again like a broken record. The man simple just performs differently when there are more than 1 race for a day. He doesn't perform better when there is a race 2 hrs in between. I don't expect him to win the world indoors based on this fact. Period.


You mean like Rieti '07 where he ran 9.78 in the heats, then a WR 9.74 in the final later that evening, right?
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby 72 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:09 pm

Sorry to interrupt the boring sprintfest posts from the usual, but some fans might like to know that there were some excellent performances and world leads today, not Jamaicans or even Yanks :)

Xiang looked brilliant in a national record of 7.41; Ennis a WL in 7.87 secs..outstanding, with a 6.47 Long Jump ; Defar won an easy victory in 8.31.55 .. quite good!!!;
Proctor goes 3rd on the World List Long Jump with 6.80; Grabarz a 2.32 HJ; Chepseba wins a great, exciting 1500m in 3.34.70 3 guys under 3.35...What happened to Lagat.??? Dibaba wins 1500m in 4.01.33.

Amman wins a fast 800m in 1.45.4 just beating the pole Lewandowski; Choge beat Mo who lacked something at the finish.
A very high standard meet and now we can all get back to the great sprint yawn about Powell :lol:
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby t_monk » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:39 pm

Can I get the full results?
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby notorious » Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:18 pm

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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby chuku69 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:37 pm

gh wrote:
chuku69 wrote:Wat do u mean wow. Are u surprised? As i told ppl b4 Powell is just a great one off runner. Period. He surely better watch out @ trials because he might be beaten into 4th. I keep saying this over and over again like a broken record. The man simple just performs differently when there are more than 1 race for a day. He doesn't perform better when there is a race 2 hrs in between. I don't expect him to win the world indoors based on this fact. Period.


You mean like Rieti '07 where he ran 9.78 in the heats, then a WR 9.74 in the final later that evening, right?


Yeah and that was 07 right? and we in 2012 right? Did he eva run these times in championships? Man plz.
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby 26mi235 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:35 pm

chuku69 wrote: As i told ppl b4 Powell is just a great one off runner. Period. He surely better watch out @ trials because he might be beaten into 4th. I keep saying this over and over again like a broken record. The man simple just performs differently when there are more than 1 race for a day. He doesn't perform better when there is a race 2 hrs in between. I don't expect him to win the world indoors based on this fact. Period.


[gh]You mean like Rieti '07 where he ran 9.78 in the heats, then a WR 9.74 in the final later that evening, right?


Yeah and that was 07 right? [/quote]

Either your statement is wrong or you did not write what you meant. Either way the assertion that you made is flawed. As for not getting it done in the Championship stage there was an adequate post that illustrated how he could still be a good Champs runner with his record. But, of course, that is contrary to the story you have in your head and as you asserted elsewhere "I only speak in facts"...
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby Smoke » Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:50 am

Gh he shut down to 9.74 in the heats, and followed with 9.78 in the final. FYI
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby jpaule » Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:13 am

Genzebe DIBABA is a real threat to break the world indoor 1500m record and win Olympic gold. Is she more of a favorite at London in the 1500 than her sister Tirunesh in the 5 and 10k?
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby odelltrclan » Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:21 am

I found it interesting that Mo Farah was quoted as saying "I just did not have that extra gear . . . I can't exactly explain it." Do these athletes start to believe they are superhuman?

He went out in 58.8 I believe for a 2 mile race and was at sub 4 at the 1/2 mile mark. He led (with the exception of the pacesetters) the entire way and was too far back to draft off of them. He was worried about the clock around the mile mark and surged. After all that, he wonders why all the talented guys drafting off him pass him at the end and he count out kick them? I expected it. Very few runners could run the way he ran and win.
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby Master Po » Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:19 am

odelltrclan wrote:I found it interesting that Mo Farah was quoted as saying "I just did not have that extra gear . . . I can't exactly explain it." Do these athletes start to believe they are superhuman?

He went out in 58.8 I believe for a 2 mile race and was at sub 4 at the 1/2 mile mark. He led (with the exception of the pacesetters) the entire way and was too far back to draft off of them. He was worried about the clock around the mile mark and surged. After all that, he wonders why all the talented guys drafting off him pass him at the end and he count out kick them? I expected it. Very few runners could run the way he ran and win.


agree w you odelltrclan -- Given the way they were racing, and the times they ran, hardly anyone has the extra gear, including Farah, in those circumstances. Great race by both Farah and Kipchoge (and the others). Farah ran a great race with a bold strategy -- the fastest 2 mile of his career, and beat a group of outstanding runners, but got beat by one of the other great distance runners of the past decade (E Kipchoge), a guy who has five medals from OG, WC, WIC competitions, not to mention several other top 5 or 6 finishes in championships (including WXC, w a WJXC gold, iirc) -- he has sub-7:30, sub-12:50, sub-26:50 credentials. I think he is superior to Farah at the short end of their range (eg, 3k). Farah has a slightly faster 10k PB, but Kipchoge has faster at 3k & 5k, and is much more experienced at a wider range of distances. Guys like that tend to win a lot. I think Farah raced him well, and in many circumstances such a strategy would work; certainly worth trying in Birmingham -- nothing at stake there.
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby Master Po » Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:35 am

followup note on E Kipchoge -- after that post, I had to look up to see who actually is in the sub-7:30 + sub-12:50 + sub 26:50 club. It's a rather elite group:

Bekele
Gebrsellasie
Tergat
Sihine
E Kipchoge.

Given the greatness of the first three, it's not surprising that the other two don't quite get their due, but E Kipchoge is one of the greats.
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby toyracer » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:42 pm

Smoke wrote:Gh he shut down to 9.74 in the heats, and followed with 9.78 in the final. FYI


Smoke is absolutely correct gh. The time in the Final was quicker when adjusted for wind conditions, but Asafa did run the 9.74 WR in the heat.
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby odelltrclan » Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:04 pm

Master Po wrote: Given the way they were racing, and the times they ran, hardly anyone has the extra gear, including Farah, in those circumstances. Great race by both Farah and Kipchoge (and the others). Farah ran a great race with a bold strategy -- the fastest 2 mile of his career, and beat a group of outstanding runners, but got beat by one of the other great distance runners of the past decade (E Kipchoge), a guy who has five medals from OG, WC, WIC competitions, not to mention several other top 5 or 6 finishes in championships (including WXC, w a WJXC gold, iirc) -- he has sub-7:30, sub-12:50, sub-26:50 credentials. I think he is superior to Farah at the short end of their range (eg, 3k). Farah has a slightly faster 10k PB, but Kipchoge has faster at 3k & 5k, and is much more experienced at a wider range of distances. Guys like that tend to win a lot. I think Farah raced him well, and in many circumstances such a strategy would work; certainly worth trying in Birmingham -- nothing at stake there.


Tariku Bekele has run 7:28.70. Farah has not run close to sub 7:30 yet as far as I know, though I think he is capable. But he certainly can't assume that his kicking strategy will work the same at 3k as the longer distances especially given that he went out so fast and led much of the way, which is contrary to the way he won most races last year.

Rupp's run is pretty impressive to me considering he ran solo for most of the second half of the race, was not 100% (cold) and did not have competitors to fight against that would have helped cut extra seconds and/or tenths of seconds at the end. I am starting to believe he might be capable of joining that club, if he makes an effort to try.
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby ATK » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:13 pm

toyracer wrote:
Smoke wrote:Gh he shut down to 9.74 in the heats, and followed with 9.78 in the final. FYI


Smoke is absolutely correct gh. The time in the Final was quicker when adjusted for wind conditions, but Asafa did run the 9.74 WR in the heat.

At the end of the day the assumption that he doesn't perform when there is more than one round is flwaed. There are tons of meets where the 100 is run with heats and finals, not just championships.
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby 26mi235 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:11 pm

odelltrclan wrote:Tariku Bekele has run 7:28.70. Farah has not run close to sub 7:30 yet as far as I know, though I think he is capable.


Mo has taken the measure of Tariku much more often of late, I think. Thus, if Tariku is still capable of 7:28 so is Mo.
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby John G » Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:36 am

I agree with Master Po that some perspective is needed on Mo's 2 miler. Last year, at a more advanced stage of his preparation (early March) Mo struggled to beat Abrahimov at the Euro indoors. Abrahimov is a promising runner but no Kipchoge. I thought the guts shown by Mo in getting back up to 2nd after looking a well beaten 4th, was typical.

I'd presonally prefer that he skipped Istanbul, not because he hasn't got a great chance but more because the trans-Atlantic flights disrupt training, are tiring and greatly increase the chances of picking up a cold.

Whilst on the subject of Mo, I think the greatest danger to him now other than a resurgent Bekele is himself. He runs every race eyeballs out and talks as if he is constantly looking to up his training. I hope Salazar is the right man to rein him in on occasions and tell him to take it easy.
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Re: Birmingham 18 Feb

Postby nevetsllim » Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:34 am

John G wrote:I agree with Master Po that some perspective is needed on Mo's 2 miler. Last year, at a more advanced stage of his preparation (early March) Mo struggled to beat Abrahimov at the Euro indoors. Abrahimov is a promising runner but no Kipchoge. I thought the guts shown by Mo in getting back up to 2nd after looking a well beaten 4th, was typical.


And for someone who supposedly had nothing in his legs, Farah still covered the last mile in 4:02.5. :!:
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