Willis excellent 1500 in Poland


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Willis excellent 1500 in Poland

Postby dl » Mon Jun 30, 2003 8:44 am

For those of you who saw how impressive Michigan's Nick Willis looked in the NCAA heats, here's more evidence of his fitness. Not to take anything away from Grant Robison, but Willis certainly was the favorite in the eyes of most who saw him blast the 100m from 1100-1200m in the heats in 12.8.

Results from Poznan, Poland, from this weekend. Full results available through our results links:

1500 m men/mezczyzn

1 Timothy KIPTANUI KENYA 3:35.16
2 Laban ROTICH 69 KENYA 3:36.60 SB
3 Robert RONO 74 KENYA 3:37.15 SB
4 Nick WILLIS 83 NEW ZEALAND 3:37.48 PB
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Re: Willis excellent 1500 in Poland

Postby Guest » Mon Jun 30, 2003 11:49 am

Nick Willis is not an American. Good news for Michigan, but it means nothing to US miling.
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Re: Willis excellent 1500 in Poland

Postby Guest » Mon Jun 30, 2003 11:51 am

The subject of dl's note was the NCAA championships, not US miling.
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Re: Willis excellent 1500 in Poland

Postby Guest » Mon Jun 30, 2003 11:51 am

Sure it does. It means the Americans have another good runner to learn from. Way to go Nick!
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Re: Willis excellent 1500 in Poland

Postby Guest » Mon Jun 30, 2003 11:58 am

It all part of the US distance running decline. If New Zeland surpasses the US in the mile it is basically over. We might as well get some high school 5 minute milers to run in international competition.
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Re: Willis excellent 1500 in Poland

Postby bubba » Mon Jun 30, 2003 12:00 pm

ummmm from time to time in the past they've had better milers than the US (eg Snell & Walker)
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Re: Willis excellent 1500 in Poland

Postby bubba » Mon Jun 30, 2003 12:03 pm

Plus Willis is miles away from even getting a sniff of Krummenacker's times.
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Re: Willis excellent 1500 in Poland

Postby Guest » Mon Jun 30, 2003 12:06 pm

Yeah, but Willis is only 20 years old.
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Re: Willis excellent 1500 in Poland

Postby Powell » Mon Jun 30, 2003 12:34 pm

3:37 is excellent? I always thought the milers from my country were crap, since the best they can do is around that... Should I reevaluate? (actually, I don't think I should)
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Re: Willis excellent 1500 in Poland

Postby Guest » Mon Jun 30, 2003 1:21 pm

>ummmm from time to time in the past they've had
>better milers than the US (eg Snell & Walker)

...Snell, Walker, Dixon (Oly bronze in '72!), Quax, Polhill, for a few others--almost all while we were hanging on Ryun and occaisional flashes of greatness from Liquori, Waldrop, Wottle, etc.

All these runners reaped big benefits from having "dreaded foreigners" compete in their meets during the northern hemisphere winter. Sort of like the exposure American collegians get by racing foreign athletes. Welcome aboard, Willis!

BTW, Walker himself complained a few years back that NZ youth were too lazy to train hard, that all they wanted to do was play video games.

Maybe there was a nation-wide computer game shortage, and how can WE get the same--?
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Re: Willis excellent 1500 in Poland

Postby Guest » Mon Jun 30, 2003 5:24 pm

Both New Zeland and the US are fallen miling powers. Still the US has had some pretty good milers in the last twenty years. Steve Scott, Jim Spivey, Joe Falcon, Jeff Atkinson, and Steve Holman where excellent American milers. Actually, ever since John Walker retired New Zeland has been pretty silent in distance running.

I just don't understand the nuts that say things are looking up for US miling. The US can barely get qualifiers for the world championship in the mile.
If Jeff Atkinson where around today he would be America's top miler. At least Atkinson could run a mile in the low 3:50s and qualify for the Olympic finals.
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Re: Willis excellent 1500 in Poland

Postby Guest » Tue Jul 01, 2003 4:18 pm

Yep, you are right Jeff Atkinson is better than today's milers.

Sad times
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Re: Willis excellent 1500 in Poland

Postby bubba » Tue Jul 01, 2003 5:30 pm

You can bitch and complain all you want about most of the US milers. But I'll take Krummenacker over Atkinson any day of the week.

Let me point out that Atkinson is not on any US All-Time Top Ten list from 800-Mile while Krummenacker is on 3 of the 4 lists that span that range.

I see Atkinson down at 3:52.80 for his best, while Krummenacker has run 1:43.92, 2:15.97, and 3:31.93 (3:49.0 mile equivalent). All are times Atkinson could only dream of. So if you're going to bash the US distance corps at least take 2 seconds to get your facts straight.

And... at 1500 meters I've got both Krummenacker (5) and Lassiter (8) ahead of Atkinson (15) on the A-T list.
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Re: Willis excellent 1500 in Poland

Postby Guest » Tue Jul 01, 2003 5:45 pm

Krummenacker seems to be more interested in the 800. Until Krummenacker makes a Olympic final I will give Atkinson the advantage. Lassiter has never made an Olympic team.

Spivey and Scott Tower over today's milers.

Krummenacker is a great talent. Still he needs to break a 3:50 mile to make the elite club.

Maybe Lunn should train with Krummenacker.
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