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Which event for Laura Roesler? [split]

Postby Jacksf » Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:00 pm

Laura Roesler ran a 51.45 anchor for Oregon.
She also ran a 2:05.29 800m in the prelims.
Anybody think she should move down to the 400m?
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Postby gm » Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:41 pm

No, unless she can run sub-23 in the 200.
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Re: ¶NCAA w4 x 400—Texas A&M 3:26.31 (WL, CL)

Postby Jacksf » Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:05 pm

If she can run sub-23, then she makes the NCAA 200m final!
I think sub 24 is sufficient.
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Re: ¶NCAA w4 x 400—Texas A&M 3:26.31 (WL, CL)

Postby gm » Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:45 pm

I guess if she would be happy finishing in the top eight in the 400, sure.

She has pretty decent speed for an elite 800 runner. She has run 2:03.08 already. That is her best event.
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Re: ¶NCAA w4 x 400—Texas A&M 3:26.31 (WL, CL)

Postby Jacksf » Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:26 pm

She didn't even make the finals of the 800m.
So maybe it's not her best event.
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Re: ¶NCAA w4 x 400—Texas A&M 3:26.31 (WL, CL)

Postby gh » Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:37 pm

gm wrote:I guess if she would be happy finishing in the top eight in the 400, sure.

She has pretty decent speed for an elite 800 runner. She has run 2:03.08 already. That is her best event.


Unless she really belongs in the 1500 (no, really).
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Re: ¶NCAA w4 x 400—Texas A&M 3:26.31 (WL, CL)

Postby gm » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:05 pm

Now THAT I can agree with, gh. Her future is probably at the longer distance.
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Re: ¶NCAA w4 x 400—Texas A&M 3:26.31 (WL, CL)

Postby 26mi235 » Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:54 pm

16 high school championships including 4 straight at 100 up to 2 at XC and at least one at 1600. She will need the speed to finish the 1500 at the world level, whereas I doubt she will be world-class in the 100. 200. and even the 400. Remember that someone that has been that dominant does not get a lot of practice before college in the art of racing, so not making the 800 final does not mean that much about capabilities.
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Re: ¶NCAA w4 x 400—Texas A&M 3:26.31 (WL, CL)

Postby CookyMonzta » Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:30 pm

Jacksf wrote:Laura Roesler ran a 51.45 anchor for Oregon.
She also ran a 2:05.29 800m in the prelims.
Anybody think she should move down to the 400m?

You beat me to the punch, bub! Aye! I think she should, and stay there, unless her coach thinks she could possibly double (400/800), which I think has never happened at an NCAA or AIAW Championship.

Does Camara Jones still hold the school record in the open 400 (51.45, 1995)? Laura's split is easily worth an open 51.95 (give or take .1). She ran 24.2 for the first 200 of her anchor leg, which is incredibly impressive for an 800 runner who has yet to break 2:00.0. With a little work to hold her late-race speed (perhaps another half-second faster on that second 200), she could find herself running 50.xx, possibly next year. Depending on the rest of the field, I'd bet good horse money that it would be worth a top-4 finish.

Who among the women returning next year have run faster than 51.45? How many under 51.00? Given that Laura's PR of 2:03.08 as been lingering since her HS sophomore year, I think her path to a faster 800 begins with a faster 400, and she clearly has the potential to go high-50.xx.
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Re: ¶NCAA w4 x 400—Texas A&M 3:26.31 (WL, CL)

Postby 26mi235 » Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:57 am

Again, I disagree; she has enough speed to do well at the long end, but her speed and speed endurance will not be that great on the world stage for the 400. Remember, she got beat by almost 2.5 seconds on that anchor leg; in the 400 that is a 'country mile', and it is 3.5 seconds slower than the anchor leg by AF who has yet to win any medal at 400m.

If I recall correctly, there are several other runners that ran great 400 legs given their specialties but I do not think that anyone was suggesting that they were in the wrond events, and they were closer to the WR time than LR.
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Re: ¶NCAA w4 x 400—Texas A&M 3:26.31 (WL, CL)

Postby TxHottrack » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:58 am

I think Laura is best at the 800 mtrs. Yes, she can run a fast 400 mtrs, but to be the best of the best in the 800 you need to be able to run a fast 400 mtrs. I say her coach is doing a great job in having her compete in the open 800 & throw her on the 4x400. However we look at this, this young lady is a beast on the track. I love to see her run. I think if A&M, LSU & even Texas had her, they will still have her open event as the 800 & throw her on the 4x400. The 1500 is out of the question for this young lady. I'm not saying that she can't run a descent 1500 but to place top 3 by her junior or senior year, I just don't see it.
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Re: ¶NCAA w4 x 400—Texas A&M 3:26.31 (WL, CL)

Postby Jacksf » Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:56 pm

I think Laura could do better in the 400m than in the 800m.
Obviously she is a great talent, and can do well at a wide range of distances.
But the 400m and 800m are not related events. As usual, everyone is assuming that great 400m speed translates into a fantastic 800m time.
It ain't necessarily so.
We've seen it time and time again - 400m runners moving up to the 800m and doing OK, but not that well. (I know there are exceptions, but this is the rule. So don't even bother mentioning them).
The 800m and 1500m are more closely related than the 400m and 800m.
Most very good 800m runners are actually better at moving up to the 1500m than moving down to the 400m. How many 800m can move down to the 4 x 400m relay and have one of the best splits in the race!?
I think Laura can be quite good at both events, but is more naturally a 400m runner who has been moved up to the 800m. I'm not sure she can be top 3 USA at either, but I'd put her in the 400m.
...and I don't think there were any non-400m runners who had a better split than her in the 4 x 400m relay.
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Re: ¶NCAA w4 x 400—Texas A&M 3:26.31 (WL, CL)

Postby 26mi235 » Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:20 pm

Jack, she won two state high school XC championships. She appears to be the relatively rare type that crosses the 400/800 line. I think that she is more like the new WR-holder in the 800; good 400 wheels, but stronger in the 800. I think her 800 PR is better than her 100/200/400 PR even though she ran those races a lot of times (but I am guessing here).
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Re: ¶NCAA w4 x 400—Texas A&M 3:26.31 (WL, CL)

Postby Jacksf » Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:26 pm

She also won four 100m and 200m state championships.
But otherwise I agree with what you're saying.
She is a very rare talent that can run the sprints and longer distances.
But she trained for the 800m this year, and wasn't as fast as she was in high school.
Meanwhile, based on her relay running, it seems her 400m got better.
So are talents better suited for the 400m or 800m?
I don't think we'll ever know because she probably won't train/run both.
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Re: ¶NCAA w4 x 400—Texas A&M 3:26.31 (WL, CL)

Postby CookyMonzta » Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:36 pm

What is Laura's open 400 PR? Is her 51.45 split the fastest split she has ever run? If I'm not mistaken, she ran a 52.4 leg in her HS senior year. I'm almost pretty certain that her 400 times have improved quite significantlly since her HS sophomore year, when she ran 2:03.08, which still stands as her 800 PR, unless she has a faster relay split that I don't know about.

The fact that her 400 times have steadily improved, while her 800 PR has stood still in the last 3 years, still convinces me that her best event, right now, is the 400. I say again, I think her path to a faster 800 is by way of a faster 400, or at the very least, more training geared toward both events. It is not beyond the imagination to think she has the potential to run an open 50.50-50.99 before she graduates, fast enough to put her in contention to win an NCAA Championship in this event. Next year should be very interesting; even more so if she decides to double, dependng on the schedule.
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Re: ¶NCAA w4 x 400—Texas A&M 3:26.31 (WL, CL)

Postby vip » Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:38 pm

I wouldn't put too much stock on her sprint state titles in high school. It was North (or South?) Dakota, remember.

She should give the 400-800 another year or two before focusing on one. Maybe nobody knows her best event yet.
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Re: ¶NCAA w4 x 400—Texas A&M 3:26.31 (WL, CL)

Postby CookyMonzta » Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:41 pm

Jacksf wrote:She also won four 100m and 200m state championships.
But otherwise I agree with what you're saying.
She is a very rare talent that can run the sprints and longer distances.
But she trained for the 800m this year, and wasn't as fast as she was in high school.
Meanwhile, based on her relay running, it seems her 400m got better.
So are talents better suited for the 400m or 800m?
I don't think we'll ever know because she probably won't train/run both.

My point exactly. That is why I believe her path to a faster 800 is by way of a faster 400. I think her coaches ought to bump her down to the 400, and see what that kind of training will do for her in the 800...

...Come to think of it, if she is running 51.45 on a relay with 800 training, can you imagine what she could run with 400 training? I could imagine her going a second faster.
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Re: Which event for Laura Roesler? [split]

Postby gh » Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:46 pm

If she can't make the step up to the mile in Eugene, unlikely she'll do it anywhere. But she does have the Decker-like wheels to move on up to international class.
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Re: Which event for Laura Roesler? [split]

Postby CookyMonzta » Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:48 pm

She would do better to step down first. I like her potential better in the 400.
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Re: Which event for Laura Roesler? [split]

Postby Master Po » Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:54 pm

Agree w gh's points in this thread. The fact that she didn't make the 800 final at NCAAs doesn't doom her career at that distance. Seemed rather to be case of her being tired at the end of her long first season as a collegiate athlete. She ran 2:03-something at regionals, I think, which was close to her PR from OT in 2008. I think the 400/800 work she's doing now seems a good approach to developing her speed/strength at those distances, but -- reiterating my agreement w gh -- I think longer term her best bets are at 1500/mile. All of this, imho, of course -- can't prove any of it. I think that's what the future is for...
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Re: Which event for Laura Roesler? [split]

Postby 7-sided » Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:10 pm

Cooky and Jack, thanks for the voice of reason.

On December 22, 2009 I wrote the following: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=38336&p=639566&hilit=dakota#p639566
7-sided wrote:I really hope that I am wrong (I mean I really hope that I'm wrong) because her talent is immense, but...I don't think Roesler will be much better than she's been (at the '08 trials). I also think she is in the wrong event. If she grew up in say ... Australia, she would be the 2nd coming of Jana Pittman (or Flintoff-King); a 400m/400h, but instead she will be the 2nd coming of Nicole Teter (injured often), IMO.


-Jearl Miles at the age of 31 PB'd to run 23.03. It was the same year she ran her PB of 49.40. (btw, she ran her first 800 in '92 at the age of 26)

-In '07 Monica Hargrove ran a then PB of 23.54 she also ran 51.40 that year. Her PB is now 50.39.

-Mary Wineberg PB's 23.48, 50.24

-Jana Rawlinson-Pittman PB's 11.94, 23.60, 36.34, 50.43, 2:04.03, 53.22

-Pacemaker Karen Shinkins PB's 23.60, 51.07

Roessler was PLENTY fast enough to sprint on the college level. Reasons given a year and a half-ago

7-sided wrote:-11.90w, 24.30w (could be hand times) two seasons ago - while training to run the 800m - in North Dakota weather and competition. That is as much speed as any top prep 400m runners. Allowed to develop and we might be talking about sub-11.50/23.50 during her senior year. There are not a lot of places in the world where those times sentence you to a life of mid-distance training. But, if it is more acceptable to be "Mary Decker" ...
-HS coach and parents seem VERY involved (not that it is a bad thing, but there was some "trouble" reported in the training for last year...implied burnout).
-Oregon. The pressure to "run like a stud" may not be the best atmosphere for someone who has been described as "overtrained" during their HS junior season.
-physically, she looks more like a sprinter (see Teter)


It is complete NONSENSE to think that Roesller couldn't have been a sprinter on the college level and quite possibly internationally! Her high school ability was no worse than the top high school sprinters at that time - or any other year! Roessler, Schueller maybe Prandini...this is the constant foolishness among board members and the high school coaches community of pushing the melanin deficient towards the 800 or the 1500 (But not Reynolds or Rogers; wait, you'll see). Oh, did I forget Jeremy Wariner?

Where were the deafening calls for Monique Hennagan, 2008 Olympic Trials champion who set the record of 49.56 at 400m, to run the 800m? Here was her '96 season:
1996: Won NCAA 800 (2:03.27), 4th in 400 (52.47)...won NCAA Indoor 400 (52.57); ran leg on 7th-place 4x400 (3:38.34)...won ACC Indoor 400 (53.64)...won ACC (51.44 MR)... 8th in 400 semis (52.50) at Olympic Trials...best of 51.44, plus 2:02.5.
1995: Won ACC (52.58)...hamstring injury shortened season...made NCAA final but did not compete (52.75 heat)...best of 52.32, plus 2:06.83 (800).

And for those of you who think she's a miler...you're smoking crack.
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Re: Which event for Laura Roesler? [split]

Postby 26mi235 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:27 pm

Her speed wheels are impressive -- for a middle distance runner. They are pretty ordinary for a long sprinter. She did not qualify for the final. Is it possibly be because (in addition to things mentioned above) she did not run a tactically strong race. I remember someone else that did not make the final in 2009; should he have given up the 800 and gone back to the 400 -- if so he might not have run several 1:41s the next year.

International 1500s are won with fast finishes rather than fast races. Last year's number 1 did not even go under 4:00 but she closed better than almost everyone almost all of the time.

Someone said, sure, she won the 100/200/400/1600/XC championships mucho times, but it was North Dakota. Give me a gal from California that could have won North Dakota's 100 four times, the state XC crown twice and all of the ones in between without, essentially losing a race. I cannot think of anyone that might have been able to do it except maybe for Mary Decker, and I am not sure that she was fast enough to run 12-flat/24-flat (especially training in ND weather).
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Re: Which event for Laura Roesler? [split]

Postby vip » Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:53 pm

Hey 26mi235, dude you are seriously giving the competition in North Dakota far too much credit. I'll take you up on the bet that a kid from Cali could've done that, and a kid from Texas and Florida and maybe New Jersey as well.

Just say the Roesler kid is talented and has a bright future and leave it at that. But please, enough about what she did at some Dakota state meet. That's almost like bragging about being 6-foot tall at a small people's convention.
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Re: Which event for Laura Roesler? [split]

Postby richxx87 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:54 pm

5,000 and 10,000... she has shown she has long-distance endurance and shown she can kick on a world-class level. If the USA wants to compete for real medals against the great African distance gals, she is the type of talent that needs to be developed.
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Re: Which event for Laura Roesler? [split]

Postby 26mi235 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:35 pm

vip wrote:Hey 26mi235, dude you are seriously giving the competition in North Dakota far too much credit. I'll take you up on the bet that a kid from Cali could've done that, and a kid from Texas and Florida and maybe New Jersey as well.

Just say the Roesler kid is talented and has a bright future and leave it at that. But please, enough about what she did at some Dakota state meet. That's almost like bragging about being 6-foot tall at a small people's convention.


Name those that could run 24-flat, 11-high, win the state XC race both times, win 22 championships with, I think a single loss (plus an XC loss while in 7th grade). This has to be a pretty good high school sprinter who ran run well at 1600 and 4000meters.

If it is so easy, name all of those high school stars.
Here are the marks to beat:
100 Meters - 11.90, 200 Meters - 24.01, 400 Meters - 53.25, 800 Meters - 2:03.08,
Then has to be able to win both XC, athough she was only second at age 12 before she was in high school. and the 1600 several times (?). Now, remember they have to win the 400 something like six times in a row, not just one season, the 200 and 800 five times, but get a pass and only get the 100 four times because you are allowed to be second once and they do not have to run 10.90 each time, but they do have to do quadruples (win all four events at state).
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Re: Which event for Laura Roesler? [split]

Postby CookyMonzta » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:01 pm

26mi235 wrote:100 Meters - 11.90, 200 Meters - 24.01, 400 Meters - 53.25, 800 Meters - 2:03.08

Those performances, in my opinion, are impressive for ANY state! She could have won any event she chose (among those 4) at last year's New York State Championships with those PRs. The fact that she ran 24.2 for the first 200 of her 51.45 relay split makes it obvious that she is capable of running even faster now in the 200; maybe fast enough to have even made the top 16 (23.27), but probably not the NCAA final (23.06). That just makes the case for her to drop down to the 400 even stronger. Did Oregon run a 4x1 or 4x2 this year, and if so, was she on any of those relays?
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Re: Which event for Laura Roesler? [split]

Postby gm » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:50 pm

No, she was not on the 4x100. She ran the 400 once, a 54.63, and ran a bunch of solid 800s, including six of her top 10 ever. One of those was a 2:03.12 at regionals.

She also ran a 1500, in 4:42.29.

Edited to add: Roesler is a delightful young lady who would probably laugh at all this speculation.
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Re: Which event for Laura Roesler? [split]

Postby CookyMonzta » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:31 pm

I find it quite interesting that you would say that, since you yourself have participated in this speculation as well...

gm wrote:
Jacksf wrote:Laura Roesler ran a 51.45 anchor for Oregon.
She also ran a 2:05.29 800m in the prelims.
Anybody think she should move down to the 400m?

No, unless she can run sub-23 in the 200.


gm wrote:
gh wrote:
gm wrote:I guess if she would be happy finishing in the top eight in the 400, sure.

She has pretty decent speed for an elite 800 runner. She has run 2:03.08 already. That is her best event.


Unless she really belongs in the 1500 (no, really).

Now THAT I can agree with, gh. Her future is probably at the longer distance.


...I think most of us have already made the case for why it is not beyond the imagination to think that she could be just as formidable a 400 runner, maybe even more so than the 800 or quite possibly even the 1,500, among the NCAA ranks, if not the pros. After all, isn't this what this thread was all about; to speculate on her potential in any of the events she has run, and which event presents the greatest potential for success for her, either in the NCAAs or long-term?

One other note: She wouldn't need to run sub-23.00 in an open 200 to run under 51.00 in an open 400. Jearl Miles-Clark could hardly run under 23.00 herself (her PR was 23.03), yet she ran 49.40. And Jearl is a perfect example of why Laura's road to a faster 800 is quite probably by way of the 400. Should I dare mention Jarmila Kratochvílová?
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Re: Which event for Laura Roesler? [split]

Postby 26mi235 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:10 pm

A 24.2 opening 200 is about a 25-flat straight or open 200 equivalent; fast but not that fast for a 51.5 (52.2 open 400).
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Re: Which event for Laura Roesler? [split]

Postby CookyMonzta » Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:22 pm

26mi235 wrote:A 24.2 opening 200 is about a 25-flat straight or open 200 equivalent; fast but not that fast for a 51.5 (52.2 open 400).

If that 200 had come with a 10m fly zone, maybe it would be worth 25.0. In a 4x400, except for a few steps forward and looking back toward the incoming runners, you're as close to standing still when you get the stick. I'd say 24.5 for the first 200 in an open 400. She's closer to an open 51.8 if you add her 27.3 final 200, which is still impressive or a college freshman who (supposedly) specializes in the 800.
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Re: Which event for Laura Roesler? [split]

Postby 26mi235 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:30 pm

It was my impression that a 400r is about 0.7 faster than an open 400, not a couple of tenths. Otherwise we would not have the 4x400 times that we see (about 2 seconds faster than the runners can run at that point in an open race). Others might want to weigh in, because the differential might be smaller than 0.7.
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Re: Which event for Laura Roesler? [split]

Postby CookyMonzta » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:09 pm

It all depends on how fast you are trotting when you receive the stick and cross the middle of the exchange zone (the finish line). If you are slow coming out of that zone, it becomes quite conceivable that your takeoff from the blocks of an open 400 could be just as fast or even faster. That is why I don't give much credence to the .7-second addition or subtraction rule-of-thumb when it comes to an open 400 or 400 relay split. Same with the 800.
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Re: Which event for Laura Roesler? [split]

Postby 26mi235 » Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:25 am

CookyMonzta wrote:It all depends on how fast you are trotting when you receive the stick and cross the middle of the exchange zone (the finish line). If you are slow coming out of that zone, it becomes quite conceivable that your takeoff from the blocks of an open 400 could be just as fast or even faster. That is why I don't give much credence to the .7-second addition or subtraction rule-of-thumb when it comes to an open 400 or 400 relay split. Same with the 800.


This is silly; if you laze around you might be slow; duh. No reaction time, rolling start, NEVER slower.
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Re: Which event for Laura Roesler? [split]

Postby gh » Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:32 am

26mi235 wrote:It was my impression that a 400r is about 0.7 faster than an open 400, not a couple of tenths. Otherwise we would not have the 4x400 times that we see (about 2 seconds faster than the runners can run at that point in an open race). Others might want to weigh in, because the differential might be smaller than 0.7.


T&FN has been using the 0.7 figure for more than 50 years; have never seen anything to make me doubt it.
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Re: Which event for Laura Roesler? [split]

Postby 7-sided » Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:53 am

Let me see if I have this right? We're discrediting her sprint wins in North Dakota, supposedly because of a lack of talent/development, but we're giving her full credit for her XC wins? Why would the talent be better for XC?

26, If she went out in 24.2 then she's at least a 24.2 open! Why? (And I can't believe you missed this) Because noone is going 100% to 200m when running a 400m. In all likelihood she's running about .7 slower than she can at fly-in pace; it negates the .7 that you calculate. I'm fairly confident that she's sub-24, if it was important to her.

did someone actually post that she was a 5k/10k candidate? :lol: Staggering track illiteracy :roll:

It needs to be pointed out, again, that Roessler ran those times I posted as a Sophomore, the year she made the OT final at 16!!! Look at the athletes below and you can see that she was AS fast at 16 as some of the top sprinters from the region. Not saying that she's a candidate for sub-11 but it doesn't necessarliy make her a 1500 runner either!

-When Alison Peter ISV was 16 she ran 12.16/23.99 (PB was 11.99); her current PB are 11.47/23.08. She was 8th at 2010 Wjr with 24.09

-When Sheniqua Furguson BAH was 16 she ran 11.93/24.98; her current PB are 11.17/22.85

-When Jura Levy JAM was 16 she ran 24.18/54.89; her current PB are 11.16/22.95

-When Jeneba Tarmoh USA was 16 she ran 11.81/24.04; her current PB are 11.19/22.65
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Re: Which event for Laura Roesler? [split]

Postby gm » Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:53 am

Alrighty then, Vin and his staff are obviously blithering idiots for not realizing they have a sprint star wasting her talents in the 800. That explains why the Ducks have been so unsuccessful of late at the national level.
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Re: Which event for Laura Roesler? [split]

Postby az2004 » Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:14 am

i don't see her being sub 50 type in 400

but i do see her sub 2 at 800

800 is her distance, her 400 speed will serve her well there
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Re: Which event for Laura Roesler? [split]

Postby 7-sided » Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:26 am

gm wrote:Alrighty then, Vin and his staff are obviously blithering idiots for not realizing they have a sprint star wasting her talents in the 800. That explains why the Ducks have been so unsuccessful of late at the national level.

Just because you have an incredibly talented athlete in AN event doesn't necessarily mean that they're in the CORRECT event. It's also much harder to determine with more talented athletes. It could easily be argued that Eaton could be an 8.80+ long jumper and win for the next 10 years but he's so incredibly talented in the multis that it doesn't make sense for him to move. IF Roessler were to run 50.50 she would EASILY be a candidate for every 400/4x4 WC/OLY team for the next decade and quite possibly bring home a medal!!! She ran 2:02 3 years ago, if she ran 1:58.00 in the next 6 years, there's barely a guarantee that she would make a USA team and less of a chance at a medal. If medals are an indication of how good you are in your event and she has a better chance of medalling at the lesser distance, then she's better at the lesser distance. It's really quite simple. Vin, or his staff, are not idiots but she's also just a freshman, he's just maximizing her preference - she is in that tweenerville where she COULD be an 800m runner. But to insist that an 11.9/24.0 sophomore is automatically 800+ is stupid. IDIOCY is thinking that she would be better at an even longer distance. Oh, that's right, who said that again?

gm wrote:Now THAT I can agree with, gh. Her future is probably at the longer distance.
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Re: Which event for Laura Roesler? [split]

Postby Powell » Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:31 am

az2004 wrote:i don't see her being sub 50 type in 400

but i do see her sub 2 at 800


But 2 minutes and 50 secs aren't equivalent benchmarks. 2:00.00 isn't even the A standard, while 50.00 will easily make the Olympic final, and may not be too far away from a medal.
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Re: Which event for Laura Roesler? [split]

Postby 7-sided » Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:33 am

Powell wrote:
az2004 wrote:i don't see her being sub 50 type in 400

but i do see her sub 2 at 800


But 2 minutes and 50 secs aren't equivalent benchmarks. 2:00.00 isn't even the A standard, while 50.00 will easily make the Olympic final, and may not be too far away from a medal.

EXACTLY!! I'm shocked that veteran posters are not aware of the difference between the two events/times.
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