Maybe he'll round into shape by outdoor. I was thinking he may be the only person who could challenge Karani James, of Alabama, because he beat him at the indoor champs last spring. But he has a ways to go to get back to that kind of form.
I will have to find out if the tracks were banked. That would make big difference. I think Lawrence ran 45.1 on the Arkansas indoor facility last March. Do you think he'll be running 45 in two months time?
gcheves, there is only one 200m unbanked track that has -historically- shown fast (I might add near inhuman times for a flat track) and that is the O'Connell Center track at the University of Florida. However, if you didn't know, it is virtually a circle and it gets the best sprint athletes every 4 years or so for the SEC championships. With the profliferation of banked tracks (TxA&M, AR, PSU, etc) and oversized (UK, UW, ND, etc) tracks don't be surprised if the flat tracks become increasingly "slower".
Also, the best way to tell how fast a flat track is would be to look at 200m times, not the 400m. The 200m races were close to 22 seconds at Clemson.
I've been to the O'connell center. The last time I was there on campus was in 2004 when the Gators hosted the NCAA East Regions. You're right, that track is fast. Do you remember Mark Everett? He ran 45 something on that track, I believe.
7-sided wrote:gcheves, there is only one 200m unbanked track that has -historically- shown fast (I might add near inhuman times for a flat track) and that is the O'Connell Center track at the University of Florida. However, if you didn't know, it is virtually a circle and it gets the best sprint athletes every 4 years or so for the SEC championships.
In light of the new rules on the curvature (minimum radius of curvature of Xm (50?) is this track still legitimate for records?
gcheves wrote:I will have to find out if the tracks were banked. That would make big difference. I think Lawrence ran 45.1 on the Arkansas indoor facility last March. Do you think he'll be running 45 in two months time?
yes i think he will be running 45.?? in 2 months, he runs 48 low in basically a non important race, unpushed so he probably is in high 46-low 47 shape now, 2 more months of training, much tougher competition, the adrenaline of being in the big meet for the indoor season (NCAA INDOOR) backing off the hard training for an indoor season peak (not as peaked as he will be for june) yeah definetely 45 something in 2 months in march, dont even worry.
tandfman wrote:Yes. Those of us who have been there know that it's banked. (And I must say that even if I hadn't been there, I couldn't imagine the NCAA having its indoor championships on a flat track.)
Apropos of little, the DIII championships are always run on a 200m flat track. It usually ends up resulting in the schools from the Midwest (who are more used to the track) doing much better than than the New England schools who have gotten fat at the Armory, Reggie Lewis, etc.
Also the 48 high he ran to open his outdoor season was pretty insignificant considering he suffered an injury (groin I think) about 2 weeks after indoor NCAA's, which explains his absence from the remaining outdoor season except for some relays.
Personally I think he will be fine, for 45 by NCAA's...
If you look at the Directathletics performance list Lawrences 48.08 is converted to 47.48...So he may not be in the shape he was i last year indoor but he basically picked up where he let off outdoor season where he was running 47 secs while still in recovery.So one can imagine he will eventually get back into the stellar shape he was in.
Place Athlete Name Yr Affiliation Time Heat(Pl) 1 Antonio McKay Jr. SR Georgia Tech 47.09 1 (1) 2 Torrin Lawrence JR Georgia 47.30 2 (1) 3 Kevin Anding JR Virginia 47.59 1 (2) 4 Jordan Rispress SO Clemson 48.28 1 (3) 5 La'Mont Jackson SO Clemson 48.39 1 (4) 6 Kyle Younkin FR Clemson 48.67 2 (2) 7 Miles Walker JR NC State 49.18 2 (3) DNS Tony McQuay SO Florida
Torrin Lawrence just ran 45.82 at Tyson Inv. Now just stay healthy please.
Place Athlete Name Yr Affiliation Time Heat(Pl) 1 Torrin Lawrence JR Georgia 45.82 A 1 (1) 2 Rondell Bartholomew SO South Plains 45.84 1 (2) 3 Tony McQuay SO Florida 45.95 A 4 (1) 4 Brady Gehret FR Penn State 46.25 4 (2) 5 Caleb Williams SO LSU 46.65 14 (1) 6 Marquis Holston SO Norfolk State 46.67 [46.663] 3 (1) 7 Marek Niit SO Arkansas 46.67 [46.668] 1 (3) 8 Anton Kokorin SO South Plains 46.91 3 (2)