A place for the discussion of all things not closely related to the sport and its competitive side. (Locked down several times a year during the major championships)
dukehjsteve wrote:Speaking of new shows, I have watched " V " the first 2 weeks, and it is TERRIBLE ! Never again.
Thanks for the heads-up! I loved the pilot, but apparently forgot to tell the DVR to record it every week, so missed this week's. Fortuntely it's downloadable from the iTunes story. (Psst--it's also the hottest selling show in the store)
gh wrote:This week's 90-minute episode was the best yet, with the use of Patty Griffin's Mary at the end a tear-jerker.
Katey Segal deserves an Emmy (I said that last year too, actually).
Of course, if a rogue-biker series isn't your cup o' tea......
I recorded that episode because we were watching another show. BUT, we are fierce SOA viewers. Gad, when Clay finds out about what happened to Gemma! When Opie finds out how Donna was done! When the whole Clay/Jax conflict goes down!
Best thing since Sopranos and Carnivale--maybe Deadwood matches up.
Big SoA fan. Love the cameos. Was trying to explain it to my girlfriend who asked me if they were a bad biker gang. Hard to explain the shades of bad. Explained they were better then the White supremists, but not as good as the Native Americans.
highjumpfan wrote:Was trying to explain it to my girlfriend who asked me if they were a bad biker gang. Hard to explain the shades of bad.
Let's see - gun-running to drug gangs? Yeah, I'll go with bad, despite the 'honor among thieves' vibe going on, and the occasional altruistic act.
If you judge a show on its conventional morality of "good vs evii," then you have a point. But I look for production values, credibility of plot, character, and theme development. SOA seems to me to be strong ("good") on these criteria.
I love this show. I started watching it surreptitously when my wife wasn't home and saw the last 6 episodes of last year. I knew my wife would turn up her nose at a "biker" show, so I started to watch the second season and decided to see if I could suck her in. So I tivo'd the first three episodes and said to her: "watch the first one, if you don't like it I'll watch it on my own." She was appalled and fascinated and at the end said: "can we netflix last season?"
Now we're deep into "the Shield" Sutter's other show.
Watching bad boy adolescent males is one thing, watching bad boy adolescents and their bitches is way better.
SOA, The Shield, Sopranos, and the best of all: The Wire, all have a Dickensian feel to them. They are richly etched character driven vehicles where the shades of good and evil are wide and complicated.
Marlow wrote:Gave SoA a shot, but couldn't get into it. Same with all the CSIs, NCISs and L&Os. On the other hand, I am addicted to Mentalist and Lie To Me!!
This would explain the numerous posts! Way too much time away from what's good on TV.
I just found out I do have a DVR and have been paying the cable company about $16/month for (?) years.. I guess I will have to get my 8 year old grandson over here to show me how to use it.
jamese1045 wrote:If you judge a show on its conventional morality of "good vs evii," then you have a point. But I look for production values, credibility of plot, character, and theme development. SOA seems to me to be strong ("good") on these criteria.
If 'goodness' were a criterion, my favorite show would not be Rescue Me, which is about one of the most effed up characters in TV history! My favorite episode is the one where Tommy's friends and family (on-the-wagon alcoholics ALL) hold an Intervention to get him back off the sauce after he goes on a bender, and he convinces them all to start drinking again!
jamese1045 wrote:If you judge a show on its conventional morality of "good vs evii," then you have a point. But I look for production values, credibility of plot, character, and theme development. SOA seems to me to be strong ("good") on these criteria.
If 'goodness' were a criterion, my favorite show would not be Rescue Me, which is about one of the most effed up characters in TV history! My favorite episode is the one where Tommy's friends and family (on-the-wagon alcoholics ALL) hold an Intervention to get him back off the sauce after he goes on a bender, and he convinces them all to start drinking again!
I am watching SOA for the first time right now don't have an inkling of what is happening. Can a late comer ever figure out what is going on, who the characters are and their relationship?
IMDB is great for movies and almost as good for TV, but I've found that the best way to catch up on any TV show is to google "name of show episode guide" and the first thing on the list should be "www.tv.com/nameofshow"
Quickie synopsis of each episode, various reviews. Here's Sons:
How will Tig feel when the psilocybin wears off and he realizes he apologized to Donna (in the person of the doll)?
Is that what he was doing? It was unclear. Good thing Opie wasn't there. Tig probably won't remember it.
Not so unclear and very well tied in to---foreshadowing--things to come imo.
Looking forward to see what the likely--imo--recobciliation of Jax and Clay might be. Whatever comes of the other plots in SOA they got to schmeer those Nazis.
lonewolf wrote:I just found out I do have a DVR and have been paying the cable company about $16/month for (?) years.. I guess I will have to get my 8 year old grandson over here to show me how to use it.
One of my proudest moments as a techno moron was to get Tivo before my daughter! That and Netflix are the greatest buys any TV/movie lover can make.
gh wrote:IMDB is great for movies and almost as good for TV, but I've found that the best way to catch up on any TV show is to google "name of show episode guide" and the first thing on the list should be "www.tv.com/nameofshow"
Quickie synopsis of each episode, various reviews. Here's Sons:
To me that's like doing a crossword puzzle with a dictionary. I much prefer to go to Netflix and get caught up, and tape the current season until I can get to it.
I'm doing that with Batllestar Gallactica right now and lovin it!
highjumpfan wrote:Anybody else disappointed in the finale. Felt it lacked some of the rich dialogue and and intrigue of the rest of the season. Almost too predictable.
gh wrote:This week's 90-minute episode was the best yet, with the use of Patty Griffin's Mary at the end a tear-jerker.
Katey Segal deserves an Emmy (I said that last year too, actually).
Of course, if a rogue-biker series isn't your cup o' tea......
Talkin' tear-jerker, and talent, Sagal (proper spelling) was stunning in this week's episode, not only as Gemma, but also as the one singing Cohen's Bird On A Wire to close it out. Wow!
gh wrote: Talkin' tear-jerker, and talent, Sagal (proper spelling) was stunning in this week's episode, not only as Gemma, but also as the one singing Cohen's Bird On A Wire to close it out. Wow!
Had to admit I had tears in my eyes with that song overlay of the end of the episode. Did not know she sang that! Amazing! Wonder if she's going to Belfast? Cut out some Priest's heart?
Or is she dead? Pretty convincing heart attack of her own I thought.
Note that she covered the Stones' Ruby Tuesday in season 2. She comes by her singing chops well; she was a member of the Harlettes in the '70s (Bette Midler's backup singers).
Note also that her sister, Liz, was the co-author of the script.
When Opie finds out how Donna was done! 
