Obama's speech in Cairo


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Postby paulthefan » Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:04 pm

rasb wrote:I am not a citizen of the USA, so technically, I have no vote here.
But as a citizen of the World, I am so glad that Obama is the president.
He is a brilliant man, not just in intellect, but in spirit. And if his reaching out to the rest of the World does not work out, then nothing will.
As for this socialist/capitalist rhetoric, it means nothing to me. Most of the other Western democracies have moved to a position which is cognizant of the need to blend private and public interests, and most of these Nations rank far above the USA in terms of the various International rankings as to how governments are meeting the needs of their citizens in areas such as education, health care, environment, etc. Listening to Palin and Gingrich and Limbaugh lately just clarifies the debate for me... However, I still love you, Wolfie...:)


Good point rasb, we will relearn, what we forget every 100 years, that nothing will.
As for the other western democracies, what values they brought hundreds of years ago, to the world will soon be swept away. Their great "internationalist rankings" is due to their opening their bellies to a preying virus of foreign cultures that do not share those values. Demographics will continue to prove those democracies a very generous host, but not a surviving one.
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Postby rasb » Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:44 pm

Hey ptf,
So faint hope, if any, for the future of humanity? Other than an ongoing arms race? If you are correct, that is very sad...
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Postby deca-pat » Sat Jun 06, 2009 4:22 pm

paulthefan wrote:
rasb wrote:I am not a citizen of the USA, so technically, I have no vote here.
But as a citizen of the World, I am so glad that Obama is the president.
He is a brilliant man, not just in intellect, but in spirit. And if his reaching out to the rest of the World does not work out, then nothing will.
As for this socialist/capitalist rhetoric, it means nothing to me. Most of the other Western democracies have moved to a position which is cognizant of the need to blend private and public interests, and most of these Nations rank far above the USA in terms of the various International rankings as to how governments are meeting the needs of their citizens in areas such as education, health care, environment, etc. Listening to Palin and Gingrich and Limbaugh lately just clarifies the debate for me... However, I still love you, Wolfie...:)


Good point rasb, we will relearn, what we forget every 100 years, that nothing will.


As for the other western democracies, what values they brought hundreds of years ago, to the world will soon be swept away. Their great "internationalist rankings" is due to their opening their bellies to a preying virus of foreign cultures that do not share those values. Demographics will continue to prove those democracies a very generous host, but not a surviving one.


paul makes a very good point.
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Postby paulthefan » Sat Jun 06, 2009 4:22 pm

rasb wrote:Hey ptf,
So faint hope, if any, for the future of humanity? Other than an ongoing arms race? If you are correct, that is very sad...


no, not at all, dont worry, humanity will continue to dominate the globe. It is fantastic neo-liberal dreams of how man will organize his affairs and what he will value that is going away.
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Postby rasb » Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:04 pm

paulthefan wrote:
rasb wrote:Hey ptf,
So faint hope, if any, for the future of humanity? Other than an ongoing arms race? If you are correct, that is very sad...


no, not at all, dont worry, humanity will continue to dominate the globe. It is fantastic neo-liberal dreams of how man will organize his affairs and what he will value that is going away.



If i read your posts wrongly, I apologize.
If I don't, then I think you are trying to say that (mostly) white, (mostly) wealthy, (mostly) right-wingers are pre-destined to inherit the Earth, or whatever is left of it. Wow, what a vision for the future.... Republicans and cockroaches.....hmmmmmm...... tough choice :)
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Postby lonewolf » Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:33 pm

rasb wrote:[.. Republicans and cockroaches.....hmmmmmm...... tough choice :)

C'm mods.. there is at least one Republican on this board and, for the moment, a subscriber to your magazine.
No amount of smileys can keep this from being an insult.
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Postby deca-pat » Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:39 pm

rasb wrote:
paulthefan wrote:
rasb wrote:Hey ptf,
So faint hope, if any, for the future of humanity? Other than an ongoing arms race? If you are correct, that is very sad...


no, not at all, dont worry, humanity will continue to dominate the globe. It is fantastic neo-liberal dreams of how man will organize his affairs and what he will value that is going away.



If i read your posts wrongly, I apologize.
If I don't, then I think you are trying to say that (mostly) white, (mostly) wealthy, (mostly) right-wingers are pre-destined to inherit the Earth, or whatever is left of it. Wow, what a vision for the future.... Republicans and cockroaches.....hmmmmmm...... tough choice :)


rasb, I think paul is making reference to something like this:

"We're the ones who will change you," the Norwegian imam Mullah Krekar told the Oslo newspaper Dagbladet in 2006. "Just look at the development within Europe, where the number of Muslims is expanding like mosquitoes. Every Western woman in the EU is producing an average of 1.4 children. Every Muslim woman in the same countries is producing 3.5 children." As he summed it up: "Our way of thinking will prove more powerful than yours."


right-wingers destined to inherit the earth???
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Postby rasb » Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:29 pm

Yes, thank you, I understand precisely what ptf was referring to.... It's not exactly rocket science, and anyone with an IQ with 3 digits can pick up the incredibly racist and religiously-intolerant undertones of the message...
Thankfully, the current president of the USA understands this well, and realizes that the evolving world order demands the ability of all to learn how to get along with various races, colours, creeds, faiths, etc.
What would the alternative suggestion be......either to out-procreate or to bomb them off the face of the Earth? Or some other suggestion, other than to try and work it out ? Please provide some enlightenment....Thanks !
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Postby paulthefan » Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:29 pm

rasb wrote:If i read your posts wrongly, I apologize.
If I don't, then I think you are trying to say that (mostly) white, (mostly) wealthy, (mostly) right-wingers are pre-destined to inherit the Earth, or whatever is left of it. Wow, what a vision for the future.... Republicans and cockroaches.....hmmmmmm...... tough choice :)


deca wrote:rasb, I think paul is making reference to something like this:


"We're the ones who will change you," the Norwegian imam Mullah Krekar told the Oslo newspaper Dagbladet in 2006. "Just look at the development within Europe, where the number of Muslims is expanding like mosquitoes. Every Western woman in the EU is producing an average of 1.4 children. Every Muslim woman in the same countries is producing 3.5 children." As he summed it up: "Our way of thinking will prove more powerful than yours."


deca wrote:right-wingers destined to inherit the earth???


deca, some realities are so clear and self evident they dont need a list of examples to understand. Some people purposefully shelter themselves from realty as it conflicts with their religion. rasb chooses to see things as they hope and dream them to be, not as they are. We choose not to outprocreate our enemies, Our enemies however recognize that they can outprocreate us, and give us the tab for their progeny's feeding and mullahed education and health care. The west continues to think that it can pursuade these cultures to accept us. We are deluded. Imams in western cities understand this.

western rightwingers and leftwingers are headed for the dustbin of history nevertheless Obama's Cairo speech though in content mildly wrongheaded will likely do us more good than harm.
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Postby TrackDaddy » Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:07 am

Well, not everyone is interested in living in a basement (bunker?) stocked with canned goods, nurturing an irrational fear, while held hostage by the illusion they are somehow genetically superior to someone else.

Have fun though.

Idealistic as it may sound some people believe that humanity trumps the "ours, we, theys, and us" in your posts.

Counterintuitively to what seems to be either taught or inherent/bred into some, structured love is an option. If the offering is rejected, THEN you fight.

Can there be peace on Earth?

As "liberal" as it may sound...

Eh...maybe...from time to time..

But certainly not as long as greed is allowed to go unchecked under the guise that it is somehow more noble if we call it capitalism.

I have a sandwhich.

You want half?
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Postby ranunculus » Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:31 am

TrackDaddy wrote:Well, not everyone is interested in living in a basement (bunker?) stocked with canned goods, nurturing an irrational fear, while held hostage by the illusion they are somehow genetically superior to someone else.

Have fun though.

Idealistic as it may sound some people believe that humanity trumps the "ours, we, theys, and us" in your posts.

Counterintuitively to what seems to be either taught or inherent/bred into some, structured love is an option. If the offering is rejected, THEN you fight.

Can there be peace on Earth?

As "liberal" as it may sound...

Eh...maybe...from time to time..

But certainly not as long as greed is allowed to go unchecked under the guise that it is somehow more noble if we call it capitalism.

I have a sandwhich.

You want half?


Paulthefan will dismiss your post as a "wishful liberal ranting", but I, as well as many others here agree and applaud you.
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Postby Vince » Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:03 am

TrackDaddy wrote:Well, not everyone is interested in living in a basement (bunker?) stocked with canned goods, nurturing an irrational fear, while held hostage by the illusion they are somehow genetically superior to someone else.

Have fun though.

Idealistic as it may sound some people believe that humanity trumps the "ours, we, theys, and us" in your posts.

Counterintuitively to what seems to be either taught or inherent/bred into some, structured love is an option. If the offering is rejected, THEN you fight.

Can there be peace on Earth?

As "liberal" as it may sound...

Eh...maybe...from time to time..

But certainly not as long as greed is allowed to go unchecked under the guise that it is somehow more noble if we call it capitalism.

I have a sandwhich.

You want half?


Wouldn't need/want half of what ever you're eating. So Capitalism is now the liberals evil de jour.

I say working until April(for now) just to pay for the politicos grand utopian delusions and unchecked spending and borrowing by the current administration will suck the sandwich out of generations of tax payers to come.
Peace to all.
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Postby Pego » Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:12 am

Vince wrote:unchecked spending and borrowing by the current administration


Is your memory failing you, or is my recollection of over $2 trillion deficit accumulated by the previous administration erroneous?

Vince wrote:Peace to all.


Agreed :D .
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Postby bad hammy » Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:40 am

Pego wrote:
Vince wrote:unchecked spending and borrowing by the current administration


Is your memory failing you, or is my recollection of over $2 trillion deficit accumulated by the previous administration erroneous?

While allowing the economy to tank to near Great-Depression levels thanks to years of Republican-led deregulation, tax cuts and increased government spending. But do not attempt to confuse these folks with facts . . .
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Postby kuha » Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:01 am

bad hammy wrote:
Pego wrote:
Vince wrote:unchecked spending and borrowing by the current administration


Is your memory failing you, or is my recollection of over $2 trillion deficit accumulated by the previous administration erroneous?

While allowing the economy to tank to near Great-Depression levels thanks to years of Republican-led deregulation, tax cuts and increased government spending. But do not attempt to confuse these folks with facts . . .


Exactly. In general, I'd suggest that a little more attention to the FACTS and a lot less ideological ranting is in order.
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Postby odelltrclan » Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:15 am

bad hammy wrote:
Pego wrote:
Vince wrote:unchecked spending and borrowing by the current administration


Is your memory failing you, or is my recollection of over $2 trillion deficit accumulated by the previous administration erroneous?

While allowing the economy to tank to near Great-Depression levels thanks to years of Republican-led deregulation, tax cuts and increased government spending. But do not attempt to confuse these folks with facts . . .


And how does the democratic led congress fit into all (open your eyes) of this and how does increasing the national debt 4 times over the previous solve this?

If you think that overspending led us to this economy, then I am sure the right answer to fix it is to quadruple (or more) the problem.

Great logic!!!!
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Postby Pego » Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:23 am

odelltrclan wrote:how does the democratic led congress fit into all (open your eyes)


Fine, another facts check. The Congress was Republican controlled until the fall elections of 2006.
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Postby Vince » Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:03 am

Pego wrote:
Vince wrote:unchecked spending and borrowing by the current administration


Is your memory failing you, or is my recollection of over $2 trillion deficit accumulated by the previous administration erroneous?

Vince wrote:Peace to all.


Agreed :D .


Actually the current administration inherited a 1 trillion deficit and then the current administration doubled it to 2 trillion with his latest budget according to the CBO, which only partially takes into account the list of spending promises made during the campaign.

Peace to the haters.
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Postby TrackDaddy » Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:22 am

Vince wrote:
Wouldn't need/want half of what ever you're eating.


Of course not.

You want it all for yourself.
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Postby paulthefan » Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:12 am

ranunculus wrote:
TrackDaddy wrote:Well, not everyone is interested in living in a basement (bunker?) stocked with canned goods, nurturing an irrational fear, while held hostage by the illusion they are somehow genetically superior to someone else.

Have fun though.

Idealistic as it may sound some people believe that humanity trumps the "ours, we, theys, and us" in your posts.

Counterintuitively to what seems to be either taught or inherent/bred into some, structured love is an option. If the offering is rejected, THEN you fight.

Can there be peace on Earth?

As "liberal" as it may sound...

Eh...maybe...from time to time..

But certainly not as long as greed is allowed to go unchecked under the guise that it is somehow more noble if we call it capitalism.

I have a sandwhich.

You want half?


Paulthefan will dismiss your post as a "wishful liberal ranting", but I, as well as many others here agree and applaud you.


Ill gladly share my sandwich with you, but please dont bring 5 others with contempt for me and my mores, to the table that you have promised my half of the sandwich to.
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Postby paulthefan » Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:16 am

bad hammy wrote:
Pego wrote:
Vince wrote:unchecked spending and borrowing by the current administration


Is your memory failing you, or is my recollection of over $2 trillion deficit accumulated by the previous administration erroneous?

While allowing the economy to tank to near Great-Depression levels thanks to years of Republican-led deregulation, tax cuts and increased government spending. But do not attempt to confuse these folks with facts . . .


proof that too many economics courses taught by communists can rot your brain. To your credit you did manage to get the "increased government spending" part right.
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Postby Pego » Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:54 am

Vince wrote:
Pego wrote:
Vince wrote:unchecked spending and borrowing by the current administration


Is your memory failing you, or is my recollection of over $2 trillion deficit accumulated by the previous administration erroneous?

Vince wrote:Peace to all.


Agreed :D .


Actually the current administration inherited a 1 trillion deficit and then the current administration doubled it to 2 trillion with his latest budget according to the CBO, which only partially takes into account the list of spending promises made during the campaign.

Peace to the haters.


I looked it up. Here are the numbers.
Deficit at the end of 2000 - 5,674B
2008 - 10,699.8B
Third quarter of 2009 - 11,383B

I'll tell you something else. During the 1980 campaign, Reagan attacked Carter mercilessly about the deficits (under 1B at that time). I remember that debate vividly, Reagan used the analogy of "stacking one-dollar bills all the way to the moon". He promptly multiplied the inherited deficit. Please, don't tell me that he had a Democratic Congress. Yes, he did, but of a tiny majority and with his charm he persuaded some more conservative Democrats to vote for his budgets.

What I am saying is that all the rhetoric of the Republicans of being fiscally conservative is not supported by their record.
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Postby deca-pat » Sun Jun 07, 2009 12:33 pm

http://sites.google.com/site/easyopinionsfiles/Home/easyoattach/wapoobamabudget1.jpg

This is a CBO "Projected Deficits" analysis. What I find interesting is the decreased spending taking place after 2004.
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Postby paulthefan » Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:31 pm

Pego wrote:I'll tell you something else. During the 1980 campaign, Reagan attacked Carter mercilessly about the deficits (under 1B at that time). I remember that debate vividly, Reagan used the analogy of "stacking one-dollar bills all the way to the moon". He promptly multiplied the inherited deficit. Please, don't tell me that he had a Democratic Congress. Yes, he did, but of a tiny majority and with his charm he persuaded some more conservative Democrats to vote for his budgets.

What I am saying is that all the rhetoric of the Republicans of being fiscally conservative is not supported by their record.


agree in part, Reagan had to choose his battles carefully. After roughly 45+ years of liberal domestic policy some things were off limits.

The real problem conservatives have with liberals on this issue is that the liberal answer to republican hypocrisy on spending is: "get the democrats in there to spend 3x as much". Can this republic survive these two parties ?
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Postby ndamix » Sun Jun 07, 2009 2:30 pm

paulthefan wrote:
Pego wrote:I'll tell you something else. During the 1980 campaign, Reagan attacked Carter mercilessly about the deficits (under 1B at that time). I remember that debate vividly, Reagan used the analogy of "stacking one-dollar bills all the way to the moon". He promptly multiplied the inherited deficit. Please, don't tell me that he had a Democratic Congress. Yes, he did, but of a tiny majority and with his charm he persuaded some more conservative Democrats to vote for his budgets.

What I am saying is that all the rhetoric of the Republicans of being fiscally conservative is not supported by their record.


agree in part, Reagan had to choose his battles carefully. After roughly 45+ years of liberal domestic policy some things were off limits.

The real problem conservatives have with liberals on this issue is that the liberal answer to republican hypocrisy on spending is: "get the democrats in there to spend 3x as much". Can this republic survive these two parties ?
Not with Michael Steele supposedly in charge of the GOP.
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Postby paulthefan » Sun Jun 07, 2009 2:38 pm

lonewolf wrote:I can't hold it till free speech month. :x
Am I the only person here who is not enchanted by Obama and is alarmed by his politcs or is it I am the only one not afraid to dissent?
Apparently praising Obama is not politcal but criticizing him is???? :?


I think you are getting it.
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Postby rasb » Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:08 pm

Back on thread topic, very nice speech in Cairo, Mr. Prez ! Most of the World is willing to give you a chance...And considering all the issues that were/are part of your political inheritance, I think you are doing just fine. How it will all work out in the future ? Apparently, only your opposition knows, but thanks for trying...
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Postby Vince » Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:26 pm

Pego wrote:
Vince wrote:
Pego wrote:
Vince wrote:unchecked spending and borrowing by the current administration


Is your memory failing you, or is my recollection of over $2 trillion deficit accumulated by the previous administration erroneous?

Vince wrote:Peace to all.


Agreed :D .


Actually the current administration inherited a 1 trillion deficit and then the current administration doubled it to 2 trillion with his latest budget according to the CBO, which only partially takes into account the list of spending promises made during the campaign.

Peace to the haters.


I looked it up. Here are the numbers.
Deficit at the end of 2000 - 5,674B
2008 - 10,699.8B
Third quarter of 2009 - 11,383B

I'll tell you something else. During the 1980 campaign, Reagan attacked Carter mercilessly about the deficits (under 1B at that time). I remember that debate vividly, Reagan used the analogy of "stacking one-dollar bills all the way to the moon". He promptly multiplied the inherited deficit. Please, don't tell me that he had a Democratic Congress. Yes, he did, but of a tiny majority and with his charm he persuaded some more conservative Democrats to vote for his budgets.

What I am saying is that all the rhetoric of the Republicans of being fiscally conservative is not supported by their record.


So are your numbers saying the Democrats have run up an 11 trillion dollar deficit?? Are they trying to out spend/borrow Reagan?
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Postby Vince » Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:36 pm

TrackDaddy wrote:
Vince wrote:
Wouldn't need/want half of what ever you're eating.


Of course not.

You want it all for yourself.


Nope, that would be your like minded friends in office, who would in turn give it to someone who had voted for them, after they took a bite for themselves.
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Postby paulthefan » Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:38 pm

rasb wrote:Back on thread topic, very nice speech in Cairo, Mr. Prez ! Most of the World is willing to give you a chance...And considering all the issues that were/are part of your political inheritance, I think you are doing just fine. How it will all work out in the future ? Apparently, only your opposition knows, but thanks for trying...


that is touching.
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Postby Pego » Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:43 pm

Vince wrote:So are your numbers saying the Democrats have run up an 11 trillion dollar deficit?? Are they trying to out spend/borrow Reagan?


I hope, it was an attempt at a joke. I am no longer sure in the political debates :roll: . Just to be sure,
11,383B-10,700B=683B
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Postby rasb » Sun Jun 07, 2009 4:03 pm

paulthefan wrote:
rasb wrote:Back on thread topic, very nice speech in Cairo, Mr. Prez ! Most of the World is willing to give you a chance...And considering all the issues that were/are part of your political inheritance, I think you are doing just fine. How it will all work out in the future ? Apparently, only your opposition knows, but thanks for trying...


that is touching.


Hey Paulie,
My friend, you cute little moonbat, you :)
I am so glad to have been able to reach out and touch you...
You did admit that Obama's speech perhaps did more good
than harm, so there is some hope for our eventual reconciliation...
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Postby paulthefan » Sun Jun 07, 2009 4:36 pm

rasb wrote:
paulthefan wrote:that is touching.
Hey Paulie,
My friend, you cute little moonbat, you :)
I am so glad to have been able to reach out and touch you...
You did admit that Obama's speech perhaps did more good
than harm, so there is some hope for our eventual reconciliation...


why would we need reconciliation when we are already dear friends!.. Ill treat for lunch someday.
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Postby rasb » Sun Jun 07, 2009 4:48 pm

paulthefan wrote:
rasb wrote:
paulthefan wrote:that is touching.
Hey Paulie,
My friend, you cute little moonbat, you :)
I am so glad to have been able to reach out and touch you...
You did admit that Obama's speech perhaps did more good
than harm, so there is some hope for our eventual reconciliation...


why would we need reconciliation when we are already dear friends!.. Ill treat for lunch someday.


That is a deal, bud. We can share a sandwich. What do you think 75/25?
:wink:
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Postby Vince » Sun Jun 07, 2009 4:50 pm

Pego wrote:
Vince wrote:So are your numbers saying the Democrats have run up an 11 trillion dollar deficit?? Are they trying to out spend/borrow Reagan?


I hope, it was an attempt at a joke. I am no longer sure in the political debates :roll: . Just to be sure,
11,383B-10,700B=683B


Actually you're confusing me. The budget deficit and National debt are 2 different things. One being what is owed and one being what is added to what it owed. 2008 GDP was somewhere in the 13-14 trillion range, so I'm guessing you're talking about the national debt.

Peace to the Accountants.
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Postby odelltrclan » Sun Jun 07, 2009 4:52 pm

paulthefan wrote: Can this republic survive these two parties ?


AMEN!!!!

Someone sees the light. We will never solve the problems if it is always "them". There are a multiplicity of problems that have led us to where we are at and it involved both parties and there is corruption at almost every level. Our country is where it as because our society as a whole.

The current great finger pointer is all rhetoric and is going to get us in stunningly blinding speed because the blind masses think he is a god.
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Postby rasb » Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:14 pm

odelltrclan wrote:
paulthefan wrote: Can this republic survive these two parties ?


AMEN!!!!

Someone sees the light. We will never solve the problems if it is always "them". There are a multiplicity of problems that have led us to where we are at and it involved both parties and there is corruption at almost every level. Our country is where it as because our society as a whole.

The current great finger pointer is all rhetoric and is going to get us in stunningly blinding speed because the blind masses think he is a god.


That is wonderful irony --- very clever ! I love the "blind masses" line....
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Postby kuha » Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:25 pm

rasb wrote:
odelltrclan wrote:
paulthefan wrote: Can this republic survive these two parties ?


AMEN!!!!

Someone sees the light. We will never solve the problems if it is always "them". There are a multiplicity of problems that have led us to where we are at and it involved both parties and there is corruption at almost every level. Our country is where it as because our society as a whole.

The current great finger pointer is all rhetoric and is going to get us in stunningly blinding speed because the blind masses think he is a god.


That is wonderful irony --- very clever ! I love the "blind masses" line....


Exactly...I got a severe case of conceptual whiplash reading that...
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Postby odelltrclan » Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:42 pm

kuha wrote:
rasb wrote:
odelltrclan wrote:
paulthefan wrote: Can this republic survive these two parties ?


AMEN!!!!

Someone sees the light. We will never solve the problems if it is always "them". There are a multiplicity of problems that have led us to where we are at and it involved both parties and there is corruption at almost every level. Our country is where it as because our society as a whole.

The current great finger pointer is all rhetoric and is going to get us in stunningly blinding speed because the blind masses think he is a god.


That is wonderful irony --- very clever ! I love the "blind masses" line....


Exactly...I got a severe case of conceptual whiplash reading that...


Sorry, I hit the return button too quick... But I am sure you could have figured it out. He is going to get us past the point of no return real fast.
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Postby TrackDaddy » Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:23 pm

Vince wrote:
TrackDaddy wrote:
Vince wrote:
Wouldn't need/want half of what ever you're eating.


Of course not.

You want it all for yourself.


Nope, that would be your like minded friends in office, who would in turn give it to someone who had voted for them, after they took a bite for themselves.


It's called sharing.
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