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First of all, greetings to all of the previous Trackshark posters, since this is my first post here even though it isn't track related... Hope all are well.. And hello to all Track and Field News posters too...
Just watched Obama's speech from Cairo live.. Although there wasn't time for him to discuss certain specific policies, what he said, and the way that he said it, made me proud that he's representing my country. and that he was my candidate of choice.. His philosophies seem so much closer to those of my own compared to the previous administration... Other opinions on his speech in Egypt involving US-Islam relations?
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Blues wrote:First of all, greetings to all of the previous Trackshark posters, since this is my first post here even though it isn't track related... Hope all are well..
Just watched Obama's speech from Cairo live.. Although there wasn't time for him to discuss certain specific policies, what he said, and the way that he said it, made me proud that he's representing my country. and that he was my candidate of choice.. His philosophies seem so much closer to those of my own compared to the previous administration... Other opinions on his speech in Egypt involving US-Islam relations?
Welcome to this board Blues! A very important speech indeed. I hope it does what its designed to do. I will check it out tonite. I dont agree with everything Obama does but he's my President and i wish him well.
Blues wrote:First of all, greetings to all of the previous Trackshark posters, since this is my first post here even though it isn't track related... Hope all are well..
Just watched Obama's speech from Cairo live.. Although there wasn't time for him to discuss certain specific policies, what he said, and the way that he said it, made me proud that he's representing my country. and that he was my candidate of choice.. His philosophies seem so much closer to those of my own compared to the previous administration... Other opinions on his speech in Egypt involving US-Islam relations?
Sup Blues.
Welcome, friend.
I missed the speech in its entirety but I've caught a few excerpts.
I'm sure you've heard this...Bin Laden has legitimate concerns that Obama will positively influence Islamic sentiment toward the US and his security and recruiting efforts will be threatened.
TrackDaddy wrote:I'm sure you've heard this...Bin Laden has legitimate concerns that Obama will positively influence Islamic sentiment toward the US and his security and recruiting efforts will be threatened.
Something I predicted when he was elected.
I've always believed that the best way to defeat terrorism is not by killing them all, but by undermining the ability of the terrorist leaders to recruit.
TrackDaddy wrote:I'm sure you've heard this...Bin Laden has legitimate concerns that Obama will positively influence Islamic sentiment toward the US and his security and recruiting efforts will be threatened.
Something I predicted when he was elected.
I've always believed that the best way to defeat terrorism is not by killing them all, but by undermining the ability of the terrorist leaders to recruit.
I agree that would be ideal. Unfortunatley I must add that the dudes who throw acid into the faces of young girls for going to school in Afganistan should be eliminated.
SQUACKEE wrote:I agree that would be ideal. Unfortunatley I must add that the dudes who throw acid into the faces of young girls for going to school in Afganistan should be eliminated.
Amen! It should be pointed out that not all terrorists are freedom fighters. The goal of some terrorists (abortion clinic bombers, KKK, etc.) is to deny freedom to other people. In a democratic society, there are ways of changing policies you disagree with short of violence. For example, if the pro-life John McCain had won the election, then it would be him replacing David Souter and not Obama. And in theory, the pro-lifers would then have the necessary votes to overturn Roe-vs Wade. Or going back a little further, you can say that pro-lifers have themselves to blame by not demanding that Bush 41 vetted David Souter properly before he was put on the court.
SQUACKEE wrote:I agree that would be ideal. Unfortunatley I must add that the dudes who throw acid into the faces of young girls for going to school in Afganistan should be eliminated.
Amen! It should be pointed out that not all terrorists are freedom fighters. The goal of some terrorists (abortion clinic bombers, KKK, etc.) is to deny freedom to other people. In a democratic society, there are ways of changing policies you disagree with short of violence. For example, if the pro-life John McCain had won the election, then it would be him replacing David Souter and not Obama. And in theory, the pro-lifers would then have the necessary votes to overturn Roe-vs Wade. Or going back a little further, you can say that pro-lifers have themselves to blame by not demanding that Bush 41 vetted David Souter properly before he was put on the court.
Thanks jazzcyclist not all terrorists are freedom fighters I hope this statement from "Mighty Mouse" puts even more heat on our "friends" from zionville.
If by meaning "real deal" you have a president who is going to usher in socialism, then, you are probably right.
The article below was written by Stanislav Mishin, a blogger and columnist for the Russian newspaper Pravda.
American capitalism gone with a whimper . . . . .
It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American decent into Marxism is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people.
odelltrclan wrote:If by meaning "real deal" you have a president who is going to usher in socialism, then, you are probably right.
Is it ushering in socialism or...
The stifling of self-destructive, unregulated, brazen and contemptible capitalist greed?
Greed that has lead us into an era of selfishness as opposed to selflessness where we're all defined by our net worth and many cant afford to pay their bills? Where others in position of power live excessive lifestyles at the expense of those they've deceived?
Regulate? God forbid!
Is not one's love as an investment in his fellow man not worth much more?
Once you have more than you can use...then what? You want even more? I have food in my house that will be thrown away and rooms that we don't use.
What will it profit a man to gain the whole world, but lose his own soul?
Oh wretched man that I am, who will save me from this body of death?
TrackDaddy wrote:Is it ushering in socialism or...
As the republicans redefined the word liberal they have now done it for socialism.
Are you kidding? Who better than to comment on a socialist than someone who was reared in that system? Its time to open our eyes and view the events unfolding in front of our eyes as they really are.
TrackDaddy wrote:Is it ushering in socialism or...
As the republicans redefined the word liberal they have now done it for socialism.
Are you kidding? Who better than to comment on a socialist than someone who was reared in that system? Its time to open our eyes and view the events unfolding in front of our eyes as they really are.
I agree.
The stifling of self-destructive, unregulated, brazen and contemptible capitalist greed.
How times of changed? A year ago, Obama would not have been caught dead in a Mosque. Now he's spoken at one of the most Sacred Mosques in the heart of the Muslim world and Arabs have adopted him as one of their own, and have even given him the name Abu Hussein as a sign of honor.
Thanks, odelltrclan, for souring a perfectly fine thread.
It's a shame American's on both sides of the isle can't celebrate Obama's attempt to connect with the hundreds of millions of moderate Muslims without politics.
Thanks, odelltrclan, for souring a perfectly fine thread.
It's a shame American's on both sides of the isle can't celebrate Obama's attempt to connect with the hundreds of millions of moderate Muslims without politics.
Well I understand. After all it is hard to ignore that fact that Obama is a communist appeasing covert-Muslim foreign-born surrender apologist . . . .
Thanks, odelltrclan, for souring a perfectly fine thread.
It's a shame American's on both sides of the isle can't celebrate Obama's attempt to connect with the hundreds of millions of moderate Muslims without politics.
Well I understand. After all it is hard to ignore that fact that Obama is a communist appeasing covert-Muslim foreign-born surrender apologist . . . .
I can't hold it till free speech month. Am I the only person here who is not enchanted by Obama and is alarmed by his politcs or is it I am the only one not afraid to dissent?
Apparently praising Obama is not politcal but criticizing him is????
lonewolf wrote:Apparently praising Obama is not politcal but criticizing him is????
I think criticism is perfectly valid, his presidency is hardly error free (politics as usual in that regard). Using charged words to paint an inaccurate picture gets old though.
lonewolf wrote:I can't hold it till free speech month. Am I the only person here who is not enchanted by Obama and is alarmed by his politcs or is it I am the only one not afraid to dissent? Apparently praising Obama is not politcal but criticizing him is????
I think we were only commenting of his speech and not his first 5 months. I thought his speech was very good. He said somethings Muslims wanted to hear but he also said some things they didnt want to hear. Overall i thought it was great. Have you heard the speech?
lonewolf wrote:I can't hold it till free speech month. Am I the only person here who is not enchanted by Obama and is alarmed by his politcs or is it I am the only one not afraid to dissent?Apparently praising Obama is not politcal but criticizing him is????
Did you miss odelltrclan's posts above?
Although I dont believe he addressed Obama's speech.
I watched the "Rachel Maddows" Show yesterday and I think Obama should have stated that no one is doubting the Holocaust took place just that ppl want an accurate count of how many died at the hands of Hitler.Ppl are starting to doubt the historical figure of 6 million.
dal4018 wrote:I watched the "Rachel Maddows" Show yesterday and I think Obama should have stated that no one is doubting the Holocaust took place just that ppl want an accurate count of how many died at the hands of Hitler.Ppl are starting to doubt the historical figure of 6 million.
dal4018 wrote:I watched the "Rachel Maddows" Show yesterday and I think Obama should have stated that no one is doubting the Holocaust took place just that ppl want an accurate count of how many died at the hands of Hitler.Ppl are starting to doubt the historical figure of 6 million.
What's "ppl"?
People and Obama should have mentioned the Nabka to let the world know the plight of the Arabs and Palestinians everyone knows about the jews and the holocaust but not enough of the world knows about the Nabka and the effects that it has on the aformentioned Arabs and Palestine.
No Daisy me personally I follow Richard Williams the Catholic priest when it comes to the Holocaust he doesn't believe that historic figure of 6 million that has been drummed into the collective conscience of the world he as I would like a truly accurate count of how many truly died at the hands of Hitler &company.
lonewolf wrote:I can't hold it till free speech month. Am I the only person here who is not enchanted by Obama and is alarmed by his politcs or is it I am the only one not afraid to dissent? Apparently praising Obama is not politcal but criticizing him is????
I don't think there's anything wrong with you. You're just the product of your times. As a matter of fact, based on the demographics of the exit polls, you would be an outlier if you were enchanted by Obama.
