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Woman gives birth to octuplets in SoCal hospital
By RAQUEL MARIA DILLON, Associated Press Writer
Monday, January 26, 2009
(01-26) 17:19 PST Bellflower, CA (AP) --
A woman gave birth Monday to eight babies in a span of five minutes, only the second time in history live octuplets have been born, doctors .... [rest of copy cut by mods... you can't cut and paste whole articles]
I saw this on the news and winced at the thought of 8 babies in 5 minutes. I won't tell you what my sister said, who was in labour for 50 hours with just 1. Was this woman's birth canal a water ride? Her pelvic floor laminated?
guru wrote:Why in the world would a young mother with 6 children, including a set of twins, need to take fertility drugs? And what doctor would prescribe them?
Like Marlow alluded to, you get a TV show & $$$. How else do pay for it?
No one gives freebies for twins or triplets...I think 5 is the magic number to get all the swag (mini van, diapers for a year, free college, gift cards etc).
guru wrote:Why in the world would a young mother with 6 children, including a set of twins, need to take fertility drugs? And what doctor would prescribe them?
The story says that her use of fertility drugs has not been confirmed. It says that there are no recorded cases of naturally conceived octuplets without fertility drugs, but I don't know that this is significant, given the rarity of naturally conceived octupets.
guru wrote:Why in the world would a young mother with 6 children, including a set of twins, need to take fertility drugs? And what doctor would prescribe them?
The story says that her use of fertility drugs has not been confirmed.
Suleman(the woman's mother) said her daughter had embryos implanted last year, and after finding out she was pregnant with multiple babies was given the option by doctors of selectively reducing the number of embryos. The woman declined.
CNN reports 8 embryos were implanted, far and beyond anything reasonable. Just not done, period, except in this bizarre case. Personally I find these cases ethically wobbly. 14 kids now running around in one home, aren't we SuperParents.
i must admit i'm a bit screwed when it comes to these stories
~15y ago i saw an infertile woman ( very poor ) who had no children & i saw her as an annoying "extra" at end of busy morning's work ( infertility is not an "emergency" )
for some very "tired" reason i shooed/booted her out in 1'41.10 with script for a few clomiphene tablets but obviously didn't bother to advise her that she needed contraceptive cover for next few weeks in case ovaries get hyper-stimulated
1y later, by chance, i worked at same joint again & i saw her proudly/annoyedly pushing a triple-buggy down the road
i avoided eye-contact, left work early & never ever took up work within 5 miles of that locale ever again
i couda go my ass sued of for this neglect
only a complete moron allows multiple births to develop
the artistry is in getting the woman to have a single 8 - 9 pounder every year for 3 to 5y
the current nonsense is actually a career-ending law-suit brewing for the imbecile doc who allowed it ( i guarantee it was in a place where outrageously colored fruit naturally grow - she didn't get this treatment in pittsburgh or detroit unless someone held a gun to doc's head )
eldrick wrote:............ brewing for the imbecile doc who allowed it ( i guarantee it was in a place where outrageously colored fruit naturally grow - she didn't get this treatment in pittsburgh or detroit unless someone held a gun to doc's head )
Can you please translate this for those of us still using the english of Appalachia.
eldrick wrote:the current nonsense is actually a career-ending law-suit brewing for the imbecile doc who allowed it ( i guarantee it was in a place where outrageously colored fruit naturally grow - she didn't get this treatment in pittsburgh or detroit unless someone held a gun to doc's head )
Today's AP story reports that the mother lives with her parents--at age 33--and that the family has a history of bankuptcy, tax liens, and a foreclosure. No information available as to her marital status.
So all likely will be on the dole. I'll substitute the word "disgusting" for wobbly (see above).
Ob-gyn's are now coming on the tv morning shows and decrying the decision to implant that many embryos in girlfriend- given the risk to mom and "babies".
i'm assuming you would have to pay for such treatment ??
wouldn't taking care of the loads of kids you have be your priority rather than artificially having more. and where's the dad in all this i've heard no mention !?!
mump boy wrote:i'm assuming you would have to pay for such treatment ??
The cost works out to approximately $100,000 per child born.
wouldn't taking care of the loads of kids you have be your priority rather than artificially having more. and where's the dad in all this i've heard no mention !?!
She's a single mother, and lives at home with her mother who filed bankruptcy last year.
There's alot of questions that need answers here, starting with the doctor.
eldrick wrote: only a complete moron allows multiple births to develop
Two complete morons, the mother and the doctor. She had six kids, like wasn't that enough already? I saw on CNN the doctor who led the team on the delivery, he was all beaming and starry-eyed - what the hell does he think is going on here? 14 kids condemned to poverty, shoddy upbringing and basically a life of hell. Where's the Christian right condemning this utter nonsense? Well, don't answer that, we're put here to breed uncontrollably, like frogs, rabbits, and mosquitoes.
DrJay wrote:Today's AP story reports that the mother lives with her parents--at age 33--and that the family has a history of bankuptcy, tax liens, and a foreclosure. No information available as to her marital status. So all likely will be on the dole. I'll substitute the word "disgusting" for wobbly (see above).
Would it be cynical of me to suggest that they are going to milk (npi) this for all it's worth: talk shows, sponsorships, book deal, TV-movie-of-the-week, etc.?
Marlow wrote:Would it be cynical of me to suggest that they are going to milk (npi) this for all it's worth: talk shows, sponsorships, book deal, TV-movie-of-the-week, etc.?
That might have been the plan, but she won't be able to buy a box of Pampers with the money she'll get from any corporate deals(and she will be buying those Pampers, because I don't see her getting any "insert product here" freebies for life either) .
The babies were born at Kaiser Bellflower. A huge medical team and unfathomable expense paid for by.... ?
This same hospital was involved in high profile news coverage only 3 years ago for allegedly "dumping" indigent patients with no insurance on the street in the skid row area of LA.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... Id=6497254 Such is the ethically confusing state of American health care.
DrJay wrote:Today's AP story reports that the mother lives with her parents--at age 33--and that the family has a history of bankuptcy, tax liens, and a foreclosure. No information available as to her marital status. So all likely will be on the dole. I'll substitute the word "disgusting" for wobbly (see above).
Would it be cynical of me to suggest that they are going to milk (npi) this for all it's worth: talk shows, sponsorships, book deal, TV-movie-of-the-week, etc.?
Even if the economy was not the wreck it is now-how things change in 9 months-what company would want to be associated with this example of total irresponsibility.
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