Octuplets in California (8 would be awful)


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Octuplets in California (8 would be awful)

Postby KLocke » Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:53 pm

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... =printable


Woman gives birth to octuplets in SoCal hospital
By RAQUEL MARIA DILLON, Associated Press Writer
Monday, January 26, 2009
(01-26) 17:19 PST Bellflower, CA (AP) --
A woman gave birth Monday to eight babies in a span of five minutes, only the second time in history live octuplets have been born, doctors .... [rest of copy cut by mods... you can't cut and paste whole articles]
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Re: Octuplets in California (8 would be awful)

Postby Brian » Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:18 pm

What do you mean?

An entire CC team plus alternate in about 5 minutes!

[Alright; a boys scoring five plus alternate and two girls in the individual race.]


Seriously, I just hope they all survive. The first few weeks are critical.
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Postby Marlow » Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:46 pm

Eight is Enough
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Postby AthleticsInBritain » Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:52 am

I saw this on the news and winced at the thought of 8 babies in 5 minutes. I won't tell you what my sister said, who was in labour for 50 hours with just 1. Was this woman's birth canal a water ride? Her pelvic floor laminated?
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Postby Pego » Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:59 am

A better explanation is that they were so small, as incompatible with life, or just barely. Brian's concern is fully justified.
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Postby tandfman » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:17 am

Latest report is that the octuplets are doing well, and they have six siblings!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/01/ ... 1676.shtml
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Postby Marlow » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:57 am

tandfman wrote:Latest report is that the octuplets are doing well, and they have six siblings!

It wasn't a TV show, but Fourteen Is Too Many.
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Postby guru » Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:21 pm

Why in the world would a young mother with 6 children, including a set of twins, need to take fertility drugs? And what doctor would prescribe them?
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Postby Cooter Brown » Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:57 pm

guru wrote:Why in the world would a young mother with 6 children, including a set of twins, need to take fertility drugs? And what doctor would prescribe them?


Like Marlow alluded to, you get a TV show & $$$. How else do pay for it?

No one gives freebies for twins or triplets...I think 5 is the magic number to get all the swag (mini van, diapers for a year, free college, gift cards etc).
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Postby tandfman » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:18 pm

guru wrote:Why in the world would a young mother with 6 children, including a set of twins, need to take fertility drugs? And what doctor would prescribe them?

The story says that her use of fertility drugs has not been confirmed. It says that there are no recorded cases of naturally conceived octuplets without fertility drugs, but I don't know that this is significant, given the rarity of naturally conceived octupets.
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Postby mump boy » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:32 pm

and apparently she wants to breast feed them all :? crazy
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Postby skiboo » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:40 pm

mump boy wrote:and apparently she wants to breast feed them all :? crazy


so much for nipple clamps.
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Postby guru » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:59 pm

skiboo wrote:
mump boy wrote:and apparently she wants to breast feed them all :? crazy


so much for nipple clamps.


Well I know who skiboo is now lol :wink:
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Postby Double R Bar » Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:32 pm

They have two 4 by 400 relay teams, all with the same last name.
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Postby AthleticsInBritain » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:20 pm

Double R Bar wrote:They have two 4 by 400 relay teams, all with the same last name.


3 if you count the 6 they've already got. Prob best not to mention the last two teams with siblings in them though.
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Postby guru » Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:35 am

tandfman wrote:
guru wrote:Why in the world would a young mother with 6 children, including a set of twins, need to take fertility drugs? And what doctor would prescribe them?

The story says that her use of fertility drugs has not been confirmed.


http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2009 ... S/90130002

Suleman(the woman's mother) said her daughter had embryos implanted last year, and after finding out she was pregnant with multiple babies was given the option by doctors of selectively reducing the number of embryos. The woman declined.
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Postby paulthefan » Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:21 am

a house is just not a home with only 6 children to love, train and educate.
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Postby skiboo » Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:48 am

guru wrote:
skiboo wrote:
mump boy wrote:and apparently she wants to breast feed them all :? crazy


so much for nipple clamps.


Well I know who skiboo is now lol :wink:


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No, not Mojo here...
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Postby skiboo » Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:55 am

CNN reports 8 embryos were implanted, far and beyond anything reasonable. Just not done, period, except in this bizarre case. Personally I find these cases ethically wobbly. 14 kids now running around in one home, aren't we SuperParents.

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Postby DrJay » Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:48 am

skiboo wrote: Personally I find these cases ethically wobbly.


Well put. I'll remember that one for future use.
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Postby Pego » Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:53 pm

skiboo wrote:
guru wrote:
skiboo wrote:
mump boy wrote:and apparently she wants to breast feed them all :? crazy


so much for nipple clamps.


Well I know who skiboo is now lol :wink:


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No, not Mojo here...


I wasn't as sure as guru, but after this post, I am :D :wink: .
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Postby eldrick » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:28 pm

i must admit i'm a bit screwed when it comes to these stories

~15y ago i saw an infertile woman ( very poor ) who had no children & i saw her as an annoying "extra" at end of busy morning's work ( infertility is not an "emergency" )

for some very "tired" reason i shooed/booted her out in 1'41.10 with script for a few clomiphene tablets but obviously didn't bother to advise her that she needed contraceptive cover for next few weeks in case ovaries get hyper-stimulated

1y later, by chance, i worked at same joint again & i saw her proudly/annoyedly pushing a triple-buggy down the road

i avoided eye-contact, left work early & never ever took up work within 5 miles of that locale ever again

i couda go my ass sued of for this neglect

only a complete moron allows multiple births to develop

the artistry is in getting the woman to have a single 8 - 9 pounder every year for 3 to 5y

the current nonsense is actually a career-ending law-suit brewing for the imbecile doc who allowed it ( i guarantee it was in a place where outrageously colored fruit naturally grow - she didn't get this treatment in pittsburgh or detroit unless someone held a gun to doc's head )
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Postby paulthefan » Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:51 pm

eldrick wrote:............ brewing for the imbecile doc who allowed it ( i guarantee it was in a place where outrageously colored fruit naturally grow - she didn't get this treatment in pittsburgh or detroit unless someone held a gun to doc's head )


Can you please translate this for those of us still using the english of Appalachia.
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Postby steve » Sat Jan 31, 2009 5:19 am

eldrick wrote:the current nonsense is actually a career-ending law-suit brewing for the imbecile doc who allowed it ( i guarantee it was in a place where outrageously colored fruit naturally grow - she didn't get this treatment in pittsburgh or detroit unless someone held a gun to doc's head )


You might be surprised. Morons exist everywhere.
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Postby DrJay » Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:04 am

Today's AP story reports that the mother lives with her parents--at age 33--and that the family has a history of bankuptcy, tax liens, and a foreclosure. No information available as to her marital status.

So all likely will be on the dole. I'll substitute the word "disgusting" for wobbly (see above).
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...is Enough

Postby bijanc » Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:54 am

Ob-gyn's are now coming on the tv morning shows and decrying the decision to implant that many embryos in girlfriend- given the risk to mom and "babies".
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Postby mump boy » Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:41 am

i'm assuming you would have to pay for such treatment ??

wouldn't taking care of the loads of kids you have be your priority rather than artificially having more. and where's the dad in all this i've heard no mention !?!
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Postby guru » Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:53 am

mump boy wrote:i'm assuming you would have to pay for such treatment ??


The cost works out to approximately $100,000 per child born.

wouldn't taking care of the loads of kids you have be your priority rather than artificially having more. and where's the dad in all this i've heard no mention !?!


She's a single mother, and lives at home with her mother who filed bankruptcy last year.

There's alot of questions that need answers here, starting with the doctor.
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enough is enough

Postby bijanc » Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:14 am

...not to mention girlfriend already had six children. They can field a football team in 2025.
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Postby skiboo » Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:10 am

eldrick wrote:
only a complete moron allows multiple births to develop



Two complete morons, the mother and the doctor. She had six kids, like wasn't that enough already? I saw on CNN the doctor who led the team on the delivery, he was all beaming and starry-eyed - what the hell does he think is going on here? 14 kids condemned to poverty, shoddy upbringing and basically a life of hell. Where's the Christian right condemning this utter nonsense? Well, don't answer that, we're put here to breed uncontrollably, like frogs, rabbits, and mosquitoes.
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Postby guru » Sat Jan 31, 2009 5:11 pm

The more that comes out in this story, the more disgusted I am.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090131/ap_ ... /octuplets

I REALLY want to hear what the doctor who ok'd this has to say.
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Postby Marlow » Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:17 pm

DrJay wrote:Today's AP story reports that the mother lives with her parents--at age 33--and that the family has a history of bankuptcy, tax liens, and a foreclosure. No information available as to her marital status. So all likely will be on the dole. I'll substitute the word "disgusting" for wobbly (see above).


Would it be cynical of me to suggest that they are going to milk (npi) this for all it's worth: talk shows, sponsorships, book deal, TV-movie-of-the-week, etc.?
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Postby guru » Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:37 pm

Marlow wrote:Would it be cynical of me to suggest that they are going to milk (npi) this for all it's worth: talk shows, sponsorships, book deal, TV-movie-of-the-week, etc.?



That might have been the plan, but she won't be able to buy a box of Pampers with the money she'll get from any corporate deals(and she will be buying those Pampers, because I don't see her getting any "insert product here" freebies for life either) .
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Postby jhc68 » Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:47 pm

The babies were born at Kaiser Bellflower. A huge medical team and unfathomable expense paid for by.... ?
This same hospital was involved in high profile news coverage only 3 years ago for allegedly "dumping" indigent patients with no insurance on the street in the skid row area of LA.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... Id=6497254
Such is the ethically confusing state of American health care.
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Postby Conor Dary » Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:30 am

Marlow wrote:
DrJay wrote:Today's AP story reports that the mother lives with her parents--at age 33--and that the family has a history of bankuptcy, tax liens, and a foreclosure. No information available as to her marital status. So all likely will be on the dole. I'll substitute the word "disgusting" for wobbly (see above).


Would it be cynical of me to suggest that they are going to milk (npi) this for all it's worth: talk shows, sponsorships, book deal, TV-movie-of-the-week, etc.?


Even if the economy was not the wreck it is now-how things change in 9 months-what company would want to be associated with this example of total irresponsibility.

By the way who is paying for the medical costs?
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Postby guru » Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:33 am

guru wrote:
Marlow wrote:Would it be cynical of me to suggest that they are going to milk (npi) this for all it's worth: talk shows, sponsorships, book deal, TV-movie-of-the-week, etc.?



That might have been the plan, but she won't be able to buy a box of Pampers with the money she'll get from any corporate deals(and she will be buying those Pampers, because I don't see her getting any "insert product here" freebies for life either) .



http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/st ... 03,00.html


Good luck with that lol.
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Postby Conor Dary » Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:59 am

guru wrote:
guru wrote:
Marlow wrote:Would it be cynical of me to suggest that they are going to milk (npi) this for all it's worth: talk shows, sponsorships, book deal, TV-movie-of-the-week, etc.?



That might have been the plan, but she won't be able to buy a box of Pampers with the money she'll get from any corporate deals(and she will be buying those Pampers, because I don't see her getting any "insert product here" freebies for life either) .



http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/st ... 03,00.html


Good luck with that lol.


Boggles the mind. The doctors involved should be in jail.
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Postby gh » Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:26 am

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Postby Jack Slocombe » Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:24 pm

Hell, she's building her own army.

No hubby, no job, no home, but she loves babies. She can lead her troops into battle.
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