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"This Election Will Change The World"
The long race is almost over....
"here comes pride in the backstretch, heartache goes to the inside" With apologies to George Jones and Don Rollins. 
But when exactly will it end? Don't go partisan here, cuz there is an 800 pound GarryHilla in the room. The first polls are closing in a couple of hours (6:00 pm Eastern), an hour later voting will have been finalized in 7 states with 58 electoral votes, and including 3 states generally considered to be in play. Within another hour (8:00 pm Eastern), another 19 states with 211 votes, and including another 3 states "in play" plus a big one that many consider the key. So just for fun, what will be the time (to the closest minute), when CNN declares the Election Winner. I'm going with 8:49 EST.
Betting
The betting companys like Ladbrokes usually have a much better
prediction than any poll at any institute or newspaper in the world. On betting sites the election is over. McCain only have a 5% chance to win. If you ask people who are willing to risk their own money.
What am I missing here? The earliest I see BO winning would be after Colorado polls close, with a great likelihood that it will take the Pacific landslide to seal the deal. I'll say 7:32 PST = 10:32 EST.
Re: Betting
Does that mean you could have gotten 19-1 odds if you bet on McCain? I would call that a very good bet. I think his chances are much better than that.
Not exactly. This is decimal odds. If you bet 10 dollars on Barrack you will get 10,50 back if he wins. If you bet 10 dollar on McCain you will get 100 dollars back if he wins.
And you still can bet LIVE. (of course the odds can change but this is what you get if you bet right now)
Well, you may be missing nothing, and I may be missing something. But, as I read/hear/see it, there are 8 key states with 133 votes, whose polls are closed by 8:00 EST. I don't know how long it will take to do the count, or how CNN will wordsmith it ---- projecting as compared to declaring, etc. But unless the vast majority of these 8 states turn against the "poll of polls" going in, then it would seem to be over. Yikes, 1 hour until the first polls close.
The networks will not declare a winner until the polls close on the west coast, so 11pm EST at the earliest. An I believe they will be ready at that time.
From early exit polls, 62% voted economy, 10% Iraq, 9 % terrorism, 9 % health care ----I declare the election over
as the first polls close in parts of Indiana and Kentucky. I don't know who won though, gh...
It seems both fascinating and scary to see how much of the 1861-1865 Confederacy is still holding together, especially in light of the perceived melanin levels of the respective candidates. Hopefully, we all can move to a higher level after tonight.
The states that vote Republican are still mostly voting Republican. If Colin Powell was on the R. ticket they would vote for him. The U.S.A. will elect a minority for Prez. How often has this happened in the history of the world, Congrats to Obama and the people who voted for him. Its a great day for the healing of America's past. He is our president and i wish him well. Please keep him safe.
African slaves were introduced into the USA in 1619. That was the beginning of the race issue, the single most important 'issue' in the nation's history. With Obama's election tonight, we have finally, after 389 years, turned the corner on putting it behind us. It will never disappear until we all look like Tiger Woods, but this is indeed a historic day in American history.
This'll be deleted shortly, but for the time that it lasts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRvAAYjmqkE
Re: "This Election Will Change The World"
Why isn't this on the Free Speech board?
To quote James Brown "I FEEL GOOD". To quote Stuart Scott: "BOOYAH". To quote me: "Finally"
Easiest voting experience --at 8:15 pm--I ever had (once waited 3 hours).
It would be hard to think of anything McCain did right. As bad as conditions were for him, a more competent campaign and this was still winnable.
Yes!!!!!!!!!!
the guy on the left looks like Dennis Kucinich... on the right is a young Arlen Specter.
At 22:00 CST on November 4, 2008, the U.S.A. finally proved to itself and the world, that it would no longer be handicapped by what Condoleezza Rice called the "birth defect" that it was born with. And this morning in a moment of gloating, Republican Joe Scarborough asked, "when will the Europeans will elect a Black (or non-White) leader?"
I agree. Obama's speech seemed a little lackluster by his standards. It certainly didn't live up to my expectations, because I thought he would bring the house down. But I'm assuming that the decision to tone it down was intentional.
His grandmother, who had helped raise him, has just died. I imagine he's not much in the celebrating mood. I noticed that he had a bulletproof shield in front of him. Is that de rigeur or just my paranoia?
One may want to review election results before making sweeping statements. Since WWII, the 'confederate' states don't necessarily vote as a block. The most consistent repulican states are North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, and Kansas, not confederate strongholds, I don't think. 2 of the most solid republican southern states, Virginia and North Carolina, went for Obama (and didn't for Clinton either time when most of the other 'confederate' states did).
No European country has racial minorities of a size similar to the US. And the significant black populations that do exist in Europe (mostly in the UK and France) are mostly composed of fairly recent immigrants. I would guess most of the blacks in those countries who have reached electable age were born abroad. Therefore, even in the case of complete color blindness, it's statistically unlikely a black president would have been elected by now. Turning to another continent, Peru had a president of Japanese descent and I don't think anyone there thought his race was much of an issue: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Fujimori
Not to put too fine a point on it, I have always found European racism to be virtually identical to American racism, both in scope and number. Now that we have broken through, I'm sure Europe is just as capable.
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