Ronald Reagan Endorses Obama


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Ronald Reagan Endorses Obama

Postby tandfman » Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:09 am

That's the caption under this video:

http://www.youtube.com/dontbefooledagain
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Postby AthleticsInBritain » Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:32 am

That's a pretty neat trick..
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Postby BillVol » Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:03 pm

One problem with that: Bush is not running. So that video does not apply to this election.
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Postby tandfman » Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:15 am

BillVol wrote:One problem with that: Bush is not running.

No, but the guy who is running is being supported by the same groups that supported Bush, and the guy who is running supports most of the policies and programs that have gotten us to where we are.
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Re: Ronald Reagan Endorses Obama

Postby bad hammy » Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:21 am

tandfman wrote:That's the caption under this video:

http://www.youtube.com/dontbefooledagain

Works for me . . .
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Postby BillVol » Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:30 pm

tandfman wrote:
BillVol wrote:One problem with that: Bush is not running.

No, but the guy who is running is being supported by the same groups that supported Bush, and the guy who is running supports most of the policies and programs that have gotten us to where we are.


Doesn't matter. Bush is not running, so that video, logically, does not apply to McCain.
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Postby bad hammy » Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:22 am

BillVol wrote:
tandfman wrote:
BillVol wrote:One problem with that: Bush is not running.

No, but the guy who is running is being supported by the same groups that supported Bush, and the guy who is running supports most of the policies and programs that have gotten us to where we are.


Doesn't matter. Bush is not running, so that video, logically, does not apply to McCain.

Of course it does. Bush and McCain, and their past and present policies, are not separated by a firewall; more like a thin sheen of sweat in that bed they share together.
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Postby AthleticsInBritain » Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:17 am

Of course it does. Bush and McCain, and their past and present policies, are not separated by a firewall; more like a thin sheen of sweat in that bed they share together.


Thanks for that charming mental image there, bad hammy. I kept my lunch with difficulty.

McCain does come from a different wing of the party, but the moment he took on Sarah Palin and worked with Bush's spinmeisters of the Karl Rove variety then he became tainted by association.
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Postby jazzcyclist » Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:41 am

The problem with the Bush/Rove brand of politics is that it is predicated on ruling with a 51% majority by using wedge issues to divide and polarize us. This is totally different than the Reagan and Obama style of politics which seeks to rule with a 60% majority. Reagan didn't win 49 states when he was reelected in 1984 by antagonizing Democrats. And you'll never hear Obama use the pejoratives to describe Republicans and conservatives that Bush and his associates routinely use to describe Democrats and liberals. That's why Bush was reelected with the narrowest electoral margin in history in 2004. Obama narrowly focuses his criticisms on Bush and he recently admitted in an interview that his biggest regret in this campaign is his "clinging to guns" comment because it went was the antithesis of the the type of President that he hopes to be.
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Postby bad hammy » Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:36 pm

jazzcyclist wrote:And you'll never hear Obama use the pejoratives to describe Republicans and conservatives that Bush and his associates routinely use to describe Democrats and liberals. . . . Obama narrowly focuses his criticisms on Bush. . .

A recent Obama interview where he discusses this very subject: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp ... 4#27464494
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