How does one get the courage to write the words "great champion" when a few thoughts before one stated, "he'd usually find a way to lose to a 2'30 schoolgal in a match-race"?
EPelle wrote:How does one get the courage to write the words "great champion" when a few thoughts before one stated, "he'd usually find a way to lose to a 2'30 schoolgal in a match-race"?
EPelle wrote:How does one get the courage to write the words "great champion" when a few thoughts before one stated, "he'd usually find a way to lose to a 2'30 schoolgal in a match-race"?
1'42.34pb + no gold = nobody
1'42.34 + og gold = great champion
this concept too difficult for you ?
I do love your definition of a "great champion"...
What happened to the TW-D thread? I always waste my time posted in threads that wind up being pulled for some unknown reason! <----I'll take it back, if the thread turns out to be somewhere else, however!
nevetsllim wrote:And surely Ellina Zvereva must retire!
Why? The way that women's DT looks right now, if she can stick around a few more years, she will be winning major medals throwing 58 meters until the age of 58
EPelle wrote:How does one get the courage to write the words "great champion" when a few thoughts before one stated, "he'd usually find a way to lose to a 2'30 schoolgal in a match-race"?
1'42.34pb + no gold = nobody
1'42.34 + og gold = great champion
this concept too difficult for you ?
Sometimes Olympic gold doth not always a great champion maketh. Take Patoulidou, for instance. Her 1992 100H gold was her only moment of glory for her. No medal of any kind to speak of at any other major meet.
She's been saying for quite a few years that she'll retire next year but it's great to see that she's prepared to aim for her fifth Games in London. She probably has more than half an eye on the Commonwealths in 2010.
After 28 years of competition at the World Champs or Olympic level, this is the first active season she has failed to meet the A/B qualifying standard. Will she finally call it quits now, or at least shift to the Masters circuit?
CookyMonzta wrote:Sometimes Olympic gold doth not always a great champion maketh. .
Disagree...winning Olympic Gold, on the sport's biggest stage under the ultimate amount of pressure makes you a great champion (unless you used PEDs to do it)....for that one race, moment, etc. you can say you were the best in the world.
Mellow Johnny wrote:Disagree...winning Olympic Gold, on the sport's biggest stage under the ultimate amount of pressure makes you a great champion (unless you used PEDs to do it)....for that one race, moment, etc. you can say you were the best in the world.
not if you were boycotted out
- skeets, moses, rono, american sprinters, etc in '80
or if you were injured/underperformed at trials but then were in fantastic shape at time of games
- kiptanui in '92 couda strolled to both 3ksc & 5k golds
- komen in '96 wouda crushed the field in same possible manner kennster won 5k here
- kipketer kept out in '96 because of nationality change issues
there are far too many cases where winning gold doesn't mean you were best in the world at the time
Jeff Hartwig - already moved to St. Charles
Nick Hysong
Tye Harvey - so I hear
Jillian Schwartz - getting married
Mary (Sauer) Vincent - already married
Tracy O'Hara - already married
Stacy Dragila - getting married
Kate (Soma) Conwell (at least retiring from serious training and competition, she'll probably still jump for fun from a shorter run)
Erin Asay - getting married and going to nursing school
Considering retiring:
Russ and Dana Buller - worn down by injuries
Andreé Pickens
Toby Stevenson - rumored
Tim Mack - rumored
I always waste my time posted in threads that wind up being pulled for some unknown reason! 
I didn't hear that... 