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The retirement thread

Postby croflash » Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:41 am

This thread is to keep track of those athletes who have retired this year or will retire at the end of the season. So far we have:

Tonique Williams-Darling
Maria Mutola
Stefan Holm

Anyone else ?
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Re: The retirement thread

Postby joeltetreault » Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:44 am

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Postby gabyandersen » Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:32 am

Jeffferson Pérez .He has a serious illness in his back
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Postby eldrick » Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:33 am

this is a shock !

i wanted to hear his name announced at big meets as

"the reigning olympic champion wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiilfred bungei !"

i was hoping he'd at least go to berlin as kenyans have a wilcard in yego

4 kenyans there + konchellah - couda been 5 kenyans out of 8 in the final !

i wish you well wilfred - you are a great champion & made kenya proud
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Postby gabyandersen » Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:40 am

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Postby EPelle » Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:50 am

How does one get the courage to write the words "great champion" when a few thoughts before one stated, "he'd usually find a way to lose to a 2'30 schoolgal in a match-race"?
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Re: The retirement thread

Postby shearer39 » Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:06 am

croflash wrote:This thread is to keep track of those athletes who have retired this year or will retire at the end of the season. So far we have:

Tonique Williams-Darling
Maria Mutola
Stefan Holm

Anyone else ?



Brigette Foster-Hylton
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Postby eldrick » Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:49 am

EPelle wrote:How does one get the courage to write the words "great champion" when a few thoughts before one stated, "he'd usually find a way to lose to a 2'30 schoolgal in a match-race"?


1'42.34pb + no gold = nobody

1'42.34 + og gold = great champion

this concept too difficult for you ?
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Postby EPelle » Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:50 am

Praise and a put-down in the same breath. Which is Bungei to believe you mean more?
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Postby Jaack » Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:45 am

Surely, Chandra Sturrup has competed at her last championships?

Debbie Ferguson?

Jayasinghe?

Kim Gevaert is definite.

Joice Maduake

Jackie Edwards
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Postby lalala » Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:29 am

eldrick wrote:
EPelle wrote:How does one get the courage to write the words "great champion" when a few thoughts before one stated, "he'd usually find a way to lose to a 2'30 schoolgal in a match-race"?


1'42.34pb + no gold = nobody

1'42.34 + og gold = great champion

this concept too difficult for you ?


I do love your definition of a "great champion"... :roll:
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Postby lalala » Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:30 am

Jaack wrote:Surely, Chandra Sturrup has competed at her last championships?

Debbie Ferguson?

Jayasinghe?

Kim Gevaert is definite.

Joice Maduake

Jackie Edwards


Only Gevaert is confirmed out of that list, though...
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Postby The Captain » Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:08 am

I think Bungei may continue racing on the circuit - just not in championships.
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Postby nevetsllim » Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:44 am

Jaack wrote:Surely, Chandra Sturrup has competed at her last championships?

Debbie Ferguson?

Jayasinghe?

Kim Gevaert is definite.

Joice Maduake

Jackie Edwards


Ferguson is due to retire next year after the world champs.

I think Donna Fraser is retiring.
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Postby nevetsllim » Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:50 am

I think I read somewhere that Fernanda Ribeiro was retiring as well.

What about...

Chris Williams?
Danny MacFarlane?

And surely Ellina Zvereva must retire!
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Postby EPelle » Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:02 am

Christian Olsson may be on that list; he has some very serious consideration to give his immediate future.
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Postby Per Andersen » Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:59 pm

EPelle wrote:Christian Olsson may be on that list; he has some very serious consideration to give his immediate future.

Yes, I am afraid that will happen. There won't be a comeback as a High Jumper.
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Postby AthleticsInBritain » Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:04 pm

Ashia Hansen officially retired earlier this year.
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Postby Jaack » Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:08 pm

What happened to the TW-D thread? :? I always waste my time posted in threads that wind up being pulled for some unknown reason! :roll: <----I'll take it back, if the thread turns out to be somewhere else, however! :oops:
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Postby friendly » Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:31 pm

What is Kim Gevaert's relationship status?
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Postby Powell » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:39 am

nevetsllim wrote:And surely Ellina Zvereva must retire!


Why? The way that women's DT looks right now, if she can stick around a few more years, she will be winning major medals throwing 58 meters until the age of 58 8-)
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Postby lapsus » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:50 am

friendly wrote:What is Kim Gevaert's relationship status?

Unfortunately, I think she has a boyfriend:
http://www.kuleuven.be/ck/international ... 0words.php

Has Allen Johnson confirmed his retirement?
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Re: The retirement thread

Postby Ely » Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:16 am

croflash wrote:Stefan Holm




noooo :shock: I didn't hear that... :(
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Postby CookyMonzta » Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:26 pm

gabyandersen wrote:Jeffferson Pérez .He has a serious illness in his back

Ay! At least he got back on the medal platform: 1996 (1), 2000 (4), 2004 (4), 2008 (2).
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Postby CookyMonzta » Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:29 pm

eldrick wrote:
EPelle wrote:How does one get the courage to write the words "great champion" when a few thoughts before one stated, "he'd usually find a way to lose to a 2'30 schoolgal in a match-race"?


1'42.34pb + no gold = nobody

1'42.34 + og gold = great champion

this concept too difficult for you ?

Sometimes Olympic gold doth not always a great champion maketh. Take Patoulidou, for instance. Her 1992 100H gold was her only moment of glory for her. No medal of any kind to speak of at any other major meet.
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Postby eldrick » Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:38 pm

most fans have gold as minimal requirement ( except those who missed games for whatever reason )

times then needed to decide on great, average or poor champ

i go for

great = top 10 alltime performer on career pb by retirement

average = 10 - 20

poor = 20+

everyone makes up their own ( albeit some women's events are difficult to crack top 10 )
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Postby malephenom » Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:52 pm

nevetsllim wrote:
Jaack wrote:Surely, Chandra Sturrup has competed at her last championships?

Debbie Ferguson?

Jayasinghe?

Kim Gevaert is definite.

Joice Maduake

Jackie Edwards


Ferguson is due to retire next year after the world champs.

I think Donna Fraser is retiring.


Ferguson said in an interview after the Beijing Olympics she will be aiming for the 2012 London Games.
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Postby nevetsllim » Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:00 pm

She's been saying for quite a few years that she'll retire next year but it's great to see that she's prepared to aim for her fifth Games in London. She probably has more than half an eye on the Commonwealths in 2010.
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Postby sprintblox » Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:51 pm

Merlene Ottey!?

After 28 years of competition at the World Champs or Olympic level, this is the first active season she has failed to meet the A/B qualifying standard. Will she finally call it quits now, or at least shift to the Masters circuit?
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Postby Mellow Johnny » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:55 pm

CookyMonzta wrote:Sometimes Olympic gold doth not always a great champion maketh. .


Disagree...winning Olympic Gold, on the sport's biggest stage under the ultimate amount of pressure makes you a great champion (unless you used PEDs to do it)....for that one race, moment, etc. you can say you were the best in the world.
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Postby bambam1729 » Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:45 pm

In other sports, I heard a rumor that Bret Favre is considering retirement at the end of this coming season.
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Postby eldrick » Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:37 pm

Mellow Johnny wrote:Disagree...winning Olympic Gold, on the sport's biggest stage under the ultimate amount of pressure makes you a great champion (unless you used PEDs to do it)....for that one race, moment, etc. you can say you were the best in the world.


not if you were boycotted out

- skeets, moses, rono, american sprinters, etc in '80

or if you were injured/underperformed at trials but then were in fantastic shape at time of games

- kiptanui in '92 couda strolled to both 3ksc & 5k golds

- komen in '96 wouda crushed the field in same possible manner kennster won 5k here

- kipketer kept out in '96 because of nationality change issues

there are far too many cases where winning gold doesn't mean you were best in the world at the time
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Postby Jaack » Mon Sep 01, 2008 6:47 am

malephenom wrote:
nevetsllim wrote:
Jaack wrote:Surely, Chandra Sturrup has competed at her last championships?

Debbie Ferguson?

Jayasinghe?

Kim Gevaert is definite.

Joice Maduake

Jackie Edwards


Ferguson is due to retire next year after the world champs.

I think Donna Fraser is retiring.


Ferguson said in an interview after the Beijing Olympics she will be aiming for the 2012 London Games.
Hooray!
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Postby polevaultpower » Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:12 am

Lots of US pole vaulters retiring.

Jeff Hartwig - already moved to St. Charles
Nick Hysong
Tye Harvey - so I hear


Jillian Schwartz - getting married
Mary (Sauer) Vincent - already married
Tracy O'Hara - already married
Stacy Dragila - getting married
Kate (Soma) Conwell (at least retiring from serious training and competition, she'll probably still jump for fun from a shorter run)
Erin Asay - getting married and going to nursing school

Considering retiring:
Russ and Dana Buller - worn down by injuries
Andreé Pickens
Toby Stevenson - rumored
Tim Mack - rumored
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Postby tandfman » Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:17 am

polevaultpower wrote:Lots of US pole vaulters retiring. . . . .

Jillian Schwartz - getting married
Mary (Sauer) Vincent - already married
Tracy O'Hara - already married
Stacy Dragila - getting married

What does getting married or being married have to do with it?
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Postby Powell » Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:20 am

polevaultpower wrote:Lots of US pole vaulters retiring.

Jillian Schwartz - getting married
Mary (Sauer) Vincent - already married
Tracy O'Hara - already married
Stacy Dragila - getting married
Kate (Soma) Conwell (at least retiring from serious training and competition, she'll probably still jump for fun from a shorter run)
Erin Asay - getting married and going to nursing school


Why is it that for female US vaulters getting married seems to automatically imply retirement?
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Postby Matt » Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:56 am

Is Ottey likely to throw in the towel after failing to make the Beijing qualifier?
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Postby polevaultpower » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:11 am

Powell wrote:
polevaultpower wrote:Lots of US pole vaulters retiring.

Jillian Schwartz - getting married
Mary (Sauer) Vincent - already married
Tracy O'Hara - already married
Stacy Dragila - getting married
Kate (Soma) Conwell (at least retiring from serious training and competition, she'll probably still jump for fun from a shorter run)
Erin Asay - getting married and going to nursing school


Why is it that for female US vaulters getting married seems to automatically imply retirement?


April Steiner-Bennett got married this year and is planning to compete through 2012. Erica Bartolina is married.

Most of the girls that are retiring have been competing a long time and are ready to start a family and/or move on with their lives. Erin is young but she is really fired up about nursing school.
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Postby bambam1729 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:15 am

eldrick wrote:there are far too many cases where winning gold doesn't mean you were best in the world at the time


Volker Beck in 1980
Juha Tiainen in 1984
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Postby tandfman » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:49 am

polevaultpower wrote:April Steiner-Bennett got married this year and is planning to compete through 2012. Erica Bartolina is married.

And of course Stacy Dragila was married during much of her professional career.
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