Who is the oldest person to run a sub 4 mile?


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Who is the oldest person to run a sub 4 mile?

Postby runforfun » Fri May 16, 2008 4:48 pm

I am interested to know the oldest person to run a sub 4 minute mile...indoors and out. Also like to know the time and circumstance it was achieved in. I think Ireland's Coglan ran 3:58.5 indoors at age 41...is that the indoor oldest sub 4?
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Postby Master Po » Sat May 17, 2008 3:46 am

This site, and the links it includes, should have the best available answers to your questions:

http://www.masterstrack.com/records.html

Coghlan's 3:58.15 at age 41 is, I believe, the only over-40 sub-4:00 mile (or 1500m equivalent).

Masterstrack and some of the other sites to which it links list these as the outdoor over-40 bests:

Jim Sorensen, age 40, 3:44.06/1500m (2007) [=4:02.08]
Dave Moorcroft, age 40, 4:02.53 (1993)
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Postby runforfun » Mon May 19, 2008 1:33 pm

Thanks Master Po....I guess it is Coghlan. Evidently he is the only over 40 who has run a sub 4 inside or out.
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Postby Albert Caruana » Thu May 22, 2008 4:38 pm

Fun Mile Trivia at the following link:
http://runningtimes.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=6385
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Postby runforfun » Fri May 23, 2008 6:06 pm

Albert... thanks for sharing...that was fun to read. And I'm left to wonder, how can someone walk a mile in 5:38.2!?
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Postby Bruce Kritzler » Fri May 23, 2008 9:07 pm

Who has the fastest (over 40) 1500 time?
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Postby Marcheur Marcheur » Fri May 23, 2008 9:17 pm

3.44.06 Jim Sorensen for outdoor

3.45.3 Eamon Coghlan for indoor
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Postby EPelle » Fri May 23, 2008 11:33 pm

Bruce Kritzler wrote:Who has the fastest (over 40) 1500 time?

You missed the parade last season. It was fun anticipating him breaking the record. He, at 40, ran faster than he did at university (3.45,86).
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Postby Bruce Kritzler » Sun May 25, 2008 6:31 pm

No Kenyan claiming to be 40+ under 3:44?
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Postby Halfmiler2 » Thu May 29, 2008 10:55 am

We still have not answered the question of who has the oldest outdoor sub-4 time in the mile?

My first guess was Walker and one website says he did a 3:52.48 at age 35 but another says Marcus O'Sullivan did a 3:52.04 also at age 35. And an American website says Steve Scott did a 3:54.13 at age 35? So does anyone know if any of these gentlemen (or anyone else) ran a sub-4 at ages 36 through 39?
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Postby Kevin Richardson » Thu May 29, 2008 11:22 am

Bruce Kritzler wrote:No Kenyan claiming to be 40+ under 3:44?


Nope, but I would expect to hear claims of one breaking it by 12......... :roll:
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Postby Master Po » Fri May 30, 2008 4:57 am

Halfmiler2 wrote:We still have not answered the question of who has the oldest outdoor sub-4 time in the mile?

My first guess was Walker and one website says he did a 3:52.48 at age 35 but another says Marcus O'Sullivan did a 3:52.04 also at age 35. And an American website says Steve Scott did a 3:54.13 at age 35? So does anyone know if any of these gentlemen (or anyone else) ran a sub-4 at ages 36 through 39?


See this entry from Ken Stone's blog --

http://masterstrack.com/blog/001284.html

-- which includes links to and some comments on Pete Mundle's "Masters Age Records" booklet. I think I am representing Ken Stone's comments accurately if I state that (a) he has great respect for the work Mundle has done over the decades to compile these stats, and (b) he is critical of the errors in the latest edition of the booklet, which came out in 2006, and which you can download from a link in the blog entry I've included here.

Again, if I am accurately reading Ken Stone's critique of the 2006 booklet, the errors are more common in the older ages. Thus, it may be the case that the younger age records are more reliable.

With all that in mind, as listed in Pete Mundle's booklet, here is the oldest sub-4:00 mile (aside from Coghlan) and oldest 1500m that converts to a sub-4:00 mile:

John Walker 3:55.19, August 12, 1990 (age 38 )
Mike Boit 3:37.01 (=3:54.37) July 22, 1987 (age 38 )
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