Fireworks at HSI?


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Fireworks at HSI?

Postby Speedbuff » Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:55 pm

The following is a letter circulating around that was allegedly written by a former member of HSI....

[and you really think we'd let scurrilous crap like this stand?--mods]
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Postby Flumpy » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:13 pm

DYNAMITE!!! :shock:

YOu might want to re post without the profanity. It will probably get pulled anyway but it's worth a go.
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Postby Flumpy » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:13 pm

Oh it was good whilst it lasted. :(
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Postby peach » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:16 pm

Awww I missed the fun

Flumpy, fill me in :cry:
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Postby guru » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:18 pm

Fortunately I copied and pasted on my WordPad.

It's amazing that anybody in this day and age would think that could be sent out and stay between the involved parties, and not find it's way someplace like here on this board.
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Postby marknhj » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:22 pm

Damn - missed it. Hands up all who are now clicking over to letsrun?
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Postby gh » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:24 pm

guru wrote:Fortunately I copied and pasted on my WordPad.

It's amazing that anybody in this day and age would think that could be sent out and stay between the involved parties, and not find it's way someplace like here on this board.


Feel free to send it to everyone you know; still doesn't justify its ending up on this site.
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Postby jazzcyclist » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:25 pm

peach wrote:Awww I missed the fun

Flumpy, fill me in :cry:

In a nutshell, AB blasted JS as a lying drug pusher and insinuated that the whole HSI group are drug cheats and said that JS's chickens will be coming home to roost real soon.
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Postby guru » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:27 pm

gh wrote:
guru wrote:Fortunately I copied and pasted on my WordPad.

It's amazing that anybody in this day and age would think that could be sent out and stay between the involved parties, and not find it's way someplace like here on this board.


Feel free to send it to everyone you know; still doesn't justify it's ending up on this site.


I actually agree with you, just find it stunning that anyone sends stuff like that in the first place anymore.

Then again, maybe the person sending it WANTED out in the open.
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Postby Flumpy » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:29 pm

guru wrote:Fortunately I copied and pasted on my WordPad.


Me too :D

I think Speedster was well aware that this thread would be pulled immediately but it only takes a couple of us to have read it to make sure it gets talked about in all the right places.

I've never known a drug scandal to blow up so fast.
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Postby Flumpy » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:32 pm

guru wrote:
Then again, maybe the person sending it WANTED out in the open.


Of course they wanted it out there. Can someone PM me as to who the letter is from. I've been trying to work it out but can't? Am i being stupid. Who is AB???
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Postby Speedbuff » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:34 pm

gh,

Did you take the time to read the letter? It will be interesting to see if someone takes ownership soon. I think they will.
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Postby twinpeeks » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:40 pm

Such rubbish. delete the thread
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Postby jazzcyclist » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:40 pm

Speedbuff wrote:gh,

Did you take the time to read the letter? It will be interesting to see if someone takes ownership soon. I think they will.

It's obvious who it is. The person who wrote it didn't try very hard to disguise his identity. Clue: 9.86x4 and 19.77
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Postby Flumpy » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:42 pm

Oh god it's obvious who wrote this. DOH!!!

Now I don't really believe it. The whole thing reeks of desperate damage limitation. I think he's clever enough to write this and leak it, therefore making himself look innocent. Cos I don't believe for a minute that the others where and he wasn't.

He'll clearly come forward. Nice work AB.
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Postby Flumpy » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:45 pm

jazzcyclist wrote:
Speedbuff wrote:gh,

Did you take the time to read the letter? It will be interesting to see if someone takes ownership soon. I think they will.

It's obvious who it is. The person who wrote it didn't try very hard to disguise his identity. Clue: 9.86x4 and 19.77


Yeah I read that bit wrong 1st time round. It's very cleverly written to absolve him of any blame. I thought it was a dynamite expose at first but clearly it's a very clever attempt at deflecting negative attention from himself.

I LOVE this!!!
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Postby marknhj » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:45 pm

It's obvious who it's from....

edit: because I posted without pausing to think of alternative reasons behind such a post...apologies.
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Postby gh » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:52 pm

If this is indeed written by AB, we're supposed to believe that he trained w/ HSI for a decade and only just now is tumbling to the fact that (alleged) drug abuse was in place? That doesn't ring quite true.

Anybody else remember that AB signed a non-disclosure agreement w/ Victor Conte? At least the SJ Mercury News so said during the BALCO stuff a couple of years back.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_k ... kepm472912
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Postby Flumpy » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:58 pm

marknhj wrote:It's obvious who it's from....

edit: because I posted without pausing to think of alternative reasons behind such a post...apologies.


LOL. My cynicism is rubbing off. :D
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Postby Speedster » Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:14 pm

I just read it on letsrun. AB has always come across as an articulate and concise sort of guy, these ramblings don't seem close to what I have seen of him in the past.
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Postby ILoveTrack » Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:21 pm

It's also on TrackShark.
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Postby Jaack » Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:23 pm

And...there goes the memory of the 90's best athletes.

AB mentioning, Q, Steve and Young is...well, bringing things WAAAAAAAAAAY back!

This is such a Soap Opera, but a really tragic one. In many ways, this could be a Great flood in which we wash away all of the past crap and start a new. I just hope the sport can recover. It really is on its last legs now!

Incidentally, there was a big exhibition in Dublin today and the star piece was a painting of athletes snorting the lines on a track with Chemists on the podium. The response it got leads me to believe that no one has any sort of faith in the credibility of T&F anymore. Very sad.

What a great big mess, and if this letter is legitimate, then its author is an absolute disgrace- regardless of his claims are true and just- doesn't he realise that sensationalism like this WILL destroy the sports image and thus his very career!
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Re: Fireworks at HSI?

Postby jazzcyclist » Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:27 pm

Speedbuff wrote:The following is a letter circulating around that was allegedly written by a former member of HSI....


I'm just curious Speedbuff. Where did you get a copy of the letter? Did someone from HSI email it to you?
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Postby Flumpy » Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:30 pm

Jaack wrote:What a great big mess, and if this letter is legitimate, then its author is an absolute disgrace- regardless of his claims are true and just- doesn't he realise that sensationalism like this WILL destroy the sports image and thus his very career!


he doesn't care he's just trying to get himself off the hook. Not sure anybody is going to buy it though. It's reeks to me of another Trevor Graham 'syringe' moment. Must have seemed like a really good idea at the time but certain to blow up in his face.
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Postby Jaack » Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:40 pm

Flumpy wrote:
Jaack wrote:What a great big mess, and if this letter is legitimate, then its author is an absolute disgrace- regardless of his claims are true and just- doesn't he realise that sensationalism like this WILL destroy the sports image and thus his very career!


he doesn't care he's just trying to get himself off the hook. Not sure anybody is going to buy it though. It's reeks to me of another Trevor Graham 'syringe' moment. Must have seemed like a really good idea at the time but certain to blow up in his face.


Would it be too much to put the thought out there, that someone wrote the letter pretending to be AB and thus proving guilt by desperation!

The Conspiracy theories are endless. I just can't believe someone like AB would be this stupid! :cry:
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Postby Flumpy » Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:45 pm

I wonder what Smoke has got to say about all of this???
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Re: Fireworks at HSI?

Postby stallion » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:00 pm

Speedbuff wrote:The following is a letter circulating around that was allegedly written by a former member of HSI....

You might recollect that less than a year ago, Kenenisa Bekele's running career was allegedly over, or at the very least he had lost all power and his prospects looked dim, and many of you bought it hook, line, and sinker.
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Postby Marlow » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:33 pm

curiouser and curiouser . . . seems that there's blood in the water and the sharks are circling. It would be hard to be there and not get bitten, even if you're the one chumming the water. :roll:
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Postby Marquis » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:53 pm

It doesn't sound like Ato at all.
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Postby rasb » Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:18 pm

If not, then who? Mustard in the Conservatory with a Wrench?
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Postby JRM » Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:25 pm

Marquis wrote:It doesn't sound like Ato at all.


For what it's worth, Ato himself has posted a related topic on his website as recently as today, and hasn't refuted the letter. You'd think he would be the first to cry foul if he didn't write it.
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Postby Cooter Brown » Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:55 pm

marknhj wrote:Damn - missed it. Hands up all who are now clicking over to letsrun?


went to letsrun for the first time ever. wow that site's a trainwreck. anyway, that is the most incoherent letter I've ever read. I'm not sure what it said. I guess it's the email equivalent of drunk dialing an ex.
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Postby trackhead » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:16 pm

JRM wrote:
Marquis wrote:It doesn't sound like Ato at all.


For what it's worth, Ato himself has posted a related topic on his website as recently as today, and hasn't refuted the letter. You'd think he would be the first to cry foul if he didn't write it.


He didn't?

"If I wrote a letter to anyone it would not be seen online. I have been online since 1995, and you have never seen that anywhere from me. It's a good fabrication, but a fabrication nonetheless, bait for the internet boards and press I suppose to make the story bigger than it already is."

http://atoboldon.sc49.info/letsrap/inde ... pic=5726.0
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Postby jazzcyclist » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:30 pm

trackhead wrote:
JRM wrote:
Marquis wrote:It doesn't sound like Ato at all.


For what it's worth, Ato himself has posted a related topic on his website as recently as today, and hasn't refuted the letter. You'd think he would be the first to cry foul if he didn't write it.


He didn't?

"If I wrote a letter to anyone it would not be seen online. I have been online since 1995, and you have never seen that anywhere from me. It's a good fabrication, but a fabrication nonetheless, bait for the internet boards and press I suppose to make the story bigger than it already is."

http://atoboldon.sc49.info/letsrap/inde ... pic=5726.0


Speedbuff can clear up the confusion by telling us where he got the letter from.
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Postby JRM » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:42 pm

trackhead wrote:
JRM wrote:
Marquis wrote:It doesn't sound like Ato at all.


For what it's worth, Ato himself has posted a related topic on his website as recently as today, and hasn't refuted the letter. You'd think he would be the first to cry foul if he didn't write it.


He didn't?

"If I wrote a letter to anyone it would not be seen online. I have been online since 1995, and you have never seen that anywhere from me. It's a good fabrication, but a fabrication nonetheless, bait for the internet boards and press I suppose to make the story bigger than it already is."

http://atoboldon.sc49.info/letsrap/inde ... pic=5726.0


Boldon posted that after my initial comment.
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Postby guru » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:48 pm

jazzcyclist wrote:Speedbuff can clear up the confusion by telling us where he got the letter from.


I doubt it.
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Postby tandfman » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:50 pm

guru wrote:
jazzcyclist wrote:Speedbuff can clear up the confusion by telling us where he got the letter from.

I doubt it.

I suspect that he can. I doubt that he will.
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Postby Flumpy » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:41 am

It will all come out sooner or later. The letter was clearly leaked on purpose, I wonder what's coming next???
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Re: Fireworks at HSI?

Postby 26mi235 » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:13 am

Speedbuff wrote:The following is a letter circulating around that was allegedly written by a former member of HSI....

[and you really think we'd let scurrilous crap like this stand?--mods]


Can someone summarize what the allegations were in the supposed letter, which I have not seen appear in some places that I would expect to see it (which is an indication that it might well be false). [gh's comment below 'a plant' is what I meant in my (.)]
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Postby gh » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:14 am

That's assuming that the letter is a "leak" and not a "plant."
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