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dubai marathon predictions.

Postby doug091463 » Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:10 pm

my picks geb wins the mens race in 20540 and in the womens race a new star is born as bezunesh bekele nicknamed china books her olympic spot by upsetting berhane adere and lornah kiplagat and winning in 21959. go bezunesh.
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Postby SQUACKEE » Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:24 pm

Geb 2:04.15
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Postby mj » Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:23 pm

Geb says he can do it. Who am I to doubt.

2 03 45
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Postby Daisy » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:33 pm

He'll bury it for good. 2:02:30
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Postby LopenUupunut » Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:31 am

2:05.54 (come on guys, surely someone will predict slower than this?)
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Postby bekeselassie » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:36 am

2:03:50
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Postby Powell » Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:22 am

DNF :P
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Postby bekeselassie » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:07 am

Powell wrote:DNF :P


Powell should get banned from the boards for this! :twisted:
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Postby Powell » Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:04 am

bekeselassie wrote:Powell should get banned from the boards for this! :twisted:


But I have a much better chance of getting it exactly right than any of you :twisted:
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Postby gh » Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:14 am

uniform DQ :twisted:
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Postby SQUACKEE » Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:50 am

gh wrote:uniform DQ :twisted:


Hey people dont laugh! Geb is gonna be showing a lot leg for them there parts.
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Postby nevetsllim » Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:01 am

Men's race - Gebrselassie 2:04:00 :wink:
Women's race - Adere 2:22:53
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Postby highjumpfan » Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:17 am

When was the last time someone set a wr in two consecutive races longer then 800 meters. That would be pretty impressive. I remember Kipketer doing it indoors at the world champs, But this is a whole different ball of wax.
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Postby nevetsllim » Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:20 am

Paula Radcliffe - 2:18 in Chicago '02 and 2:15 in London '03.
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Postby bekeselassie » Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:35 am

highjumpfan wrote:When was the last time someone set a wr in two consecutive races longer then 800 meters. That would be pretty impressive. I remember Kipketer doing it indoors at the world champs, But this is a whole different ball of wax.


Does Haile count? WR at 20K and half-marathon. 8)
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Postby gh » Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:39 am

Coe ran 3:48.53 (Zürich) and 3:47.33 (Brussels) in ’81 in consecutive races
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Postby joeltetreault » Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:54 am

Edit: I took the "two consecutive WR's" to mean two back to back races over any distance where both were a WR, as opposed to running consecutive WR's in the same distance (which other people interpreted as). Assuming Wanjiru's 58:53 was accepted, he would probably be the last one to do the back-to-back same distance WR double.

Haile himself did it back in 1998:

26:22.75 - 10000m - Hengelo - June 01
12:39.36 - 5000m - Helsinki - June 13

And Defar did it this past summer:

9:10.47 - 2Mile - Adidas Classic - May 20
14:16.63 - 5000m - Oslo - June 15

Also in 2007, Samuel Wanjiru ran two consecutive WR's with his 58:53 in February (half-marathon) and then ran 58:33 the following month. No races in the middle. Though I thought I read that his 58:53 may not have been ratified?
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Postby joeltetreault » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:01 am

And Morceli did a 2000/1500 consecutive WR back in 1995:

4:47.88 - 2000m - Paris - July 03
3:27.37 - 1500m - Nice - July 12

His next race was 3:27:52, then the second fastest of all time.

http://www.cs.rochester.edu/u/tetreaul/morceli.html
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Postby 26mi235 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:25 am

It has been done lots of times -- 3000/2-mile, 1500/mile, Geb did it several times recently 20k/HalfM, as did Lorna also.
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Postby highjumpfan » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:35 am

I actually meant in the same event. But thanks for the replies.
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Postby bekeselassie » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:42 am

Isinbayeva? Bubka? Anyone know?

MJ at the '96 trials, if not for a little wind.
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Postby Jon » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:07 am

There are rumours in Ethiopia suggesting Haile might retire after the Dubai marathon. Don't know how reliable they are...
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Postby SQUACKEE » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:18 am

Jon wrote:There are rumours in Ethiopia suggesting Haile might retire after the Dubai marathon. Don't know how reliable they are...


Especially if he bags the $1.25 mil :wink:
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Postby bekeselassie » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:24 am

Jon wrote:There are rumours in Ethiopia suggesting Haile might retire after the Dubai marathon. Don't know how reliable they are...


How could someone of Haile's mentality not want to contest the Games this year? :?
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Postby bekeselassie » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:24 am

SQUACKEE wrote:
Jon wrote:There are rumours in Ethiopia suggesting Haile might retire after the Dubai marathon. Don't know how reliable they are...


Especially if he bags the $1.25 mil :wink:


He doesn't need the money.
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Postby Jon » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:28 am

bekeselassie wrote:
Jon wrote:There are rumours in Ethiopia suggesting Haile might retire after the Dubai marathon. Don't know how reliable they are...


How could someone of Haile's mentality not want to contest the Games this year? :?
Guevara, Bergqvist, Simpson et al do not seem to be fussed by that lil' meet in Beijing. Maybe Geb isn't either (especially seeing as he is yet to run the marathon at a major champs).
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Postby SQUACKEE » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:32 am

bekeselassie wrote:
SQUACKEE wrote:
Jon wrote:There are rumours in Ethiopia suggesting Haile might retire after the Dubai marathon. Don't know how reliable they are...


Especially if he bags the $1.25 mil :wink:


He doesn't need the money.


Im not suggesting he's hurting $ wise but theres an old saying, " You can never be too thin or too rich". I dont think its just chance that Geb is running in the richest 26er on earth.
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Postby Runnerdave » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:35 am

Hi Jon, knowing you over the years (how are you going by the way? ) :D I can trust your rumours, still makes no sense to me, but if we try to find some logic in it we could come up with something I believe.

Let's hope Gebre does a WR, I doubt it though, but it will please me immensely.

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Postby Jon » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:43 am

Hi Runnerdave!

Personally I don't believe the rumours either. I was just putting it out there so that if it does turn out to be true, it won't be so much of a shock. :)
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Postby bekeselassie » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:44 am

But Geb has always been about being a legend like Yifter. He's always been motivated by records and such. While certainly not an arrogant man, he wants to do things others haven't done, and he wants to make history. How many times have we heard that from him?

I'm not questioning Jon's reliability. I'm just processing this in light of what we know of Haile the athlete. Mere months away from the OG, he's run the marathon faster than a human ever has, and he's in great shape. Why now?
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Postby SQUACKEE » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:49 am

bekeselassie wrote:But Geb has always been about being a legend like Yifter. He's always been motivated by records and such. While certainly not an arrogant man, he wants to do things others haven't done, and he wants to make history. How many times have we heard that from him?

I'm not questioning Jon's reliability. I'm just processing this in light of what we know of Haile the athlete. Mere months away from the OG, he's run the marathon faster than a human ever has, and he's in great shape. Why now?


I agree Bek, it makes no sense to anyone who has read Gebs words. The only thing i can think of is Bek droping out of the heat at world x and the thought of Geb running an Olympic effort in a 100 degree smog alert doesnt sound fun.
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Postby bekeselassie » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:53 am

Yeah, well, nothing Geb has ever done sounds fun to me! :wink:
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Postby gh » Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:23 pm

My prediction (cheating by not being specific!) would only be that he won't break 2:05.
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Postby bekeselassie » Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:35 pm

gh wrote:My prediction (cheating by not being specific!) would only be that he won't break 2:05.


Dude . . . get back to work! :x
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Postby Jnathletics » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:45 pm

bekeselassie wrote:
Jon wrote:There are rumours in Ethiopia suggesting Haile might retire after the Dubai marathon. Don't know how reliable they are...


How could someone of Haile's mentality not want to contest the Games this year? :?


One word "Pollution". From all reports Beijing doesn't sound very condusive for distance runners, let alone the marathon. And for someone who has had two legendary wins in the Olympics, would he want to risk a DNF?

I'm guessing that 08 will really be a home field advantage for the Chinese in the marathon.
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Postby doug091463 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:18 pm

the rumor i heard most recently was that geb wants to compete at least through the 2012 olympics in london, and he may run the 10k in the beijing olympics INSTEAD of the marathon.
source, article in todays runnersweb.
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Postby gh » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:40 pm

Jon wrote:There are rumours in Ethiopia suggesting Haile might retire after the Dubai marathon. Don't know how reliable they are...


We hear from Dubai that he's planning on heading to Beijing next month to scope out the course.
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Postby REngelhardt » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:48 pm

".... he may run the 10k in the beijing olympics INSTEAD of the marathon."

He’ll have to make the 10000m team first. 2007 Ethiopia Top-10 10000m:

26:46.19 Kenenisa Bekele Bruxelles 14 09 2007
26:48.73 Sileshi Sihine Hengelo 26 05 2007
26:52.33 Gebre-egziabher Gebremariam Hengelo 26 05 2007
26:52.81 Haile Gebrselassie Hengelo 26 05 2007
27:02.62 Deriba Merga Ejigu Hengelo 26 05 2007
27:04.89 Tadese Tola Neerpelt 02 06 2007
27:04.92 Mohamed Ali Aboosh Hengelo 26 05 2007
27:06.47 Habtamu Fikadu Hengelo 26 05 2007
27:11.93 Eshetu Wondimu Hengelo 26 05 2007
27:15.68 Raji Assefa Hengelo Hengelo 26 05 2007
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Postby Kirsner72 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:27 pm

I predict that Geb will pass the pee test.
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