1981 US XC Trials pics


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1981 US XC Trials pics

Postby DrJay » Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:16 pm

US Men's XC Trials race, E.P. Sawyer Park, Louisville, Ky March 1981. The US men went on to finish second to Ethiopia at the International XC Meet, 81-114. Individual finish at International in parentheses below.

1. Craig Virgin 36:10...(1)
2. Nick Rose 36:10 (ran as guest)
3. George Malley 36:30...(51)
4. Dan Dillon 36:31...(63)
5. Mark Nenow 36:36...(17)
6. Muggleton 36:54...(103)
7. Thom Hunt 36:55...(8th)
8. McGuire 36:57...(80)
9. Bill Donakowski 37:09...(18th)
10. Bruce Bickford 37:12...(19)

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Postby DrJay » Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:17 pm

Is that Bickford on the left? Malley in the middle, Dillon on the right.
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Postby DrJay » Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:17 pm

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Postby DrJay » Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:18 pm

Virgin started slowly, then moved up midway in the race. You can see him in the background in the blue and yellow. Who is that to Hunt's left?
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Postby DrJay » Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:18 pm

L-R Hunt, Dillon, ?, Malley, Nenow, Rose, ? Brown hat, ?Bickford
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Postby DrJay » Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:20 pm

Virgin still back, between the trees left of Rose.
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Postby DrJay » Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:20 pm

Virgin
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Postby DrJay » Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:20 pm

Virgin gaining on Rose
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Postby DrJay » Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:21 pm

Nenow. (1979 KY AAA state 880 champ Dennis Connell holding the sweatshirt)
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Postby gh » Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:24 pm

I don't think I remembered Dillon's ever having such a wicked-ass fro!
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Postby DrJay » Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:24 pm

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Postby MJD » Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:03 pm

gh wrote:I don't think I remembered Dillon's ever having such a wicked-ass fro!


He finished second at the Toronto marathon the next year and it was gone by then.
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Postby Bruce Kritzler » Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:05 am

The young looking guy in all white, #40, beside Hunt, looks like Tom Ansberry?
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Postby BYU grad » Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:31 pm

Enjoyed seeing these photos...since I am a cross-country fan...Nick Rose and Craig Virgin were two of the best.
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Postby DrJay » Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:32 am

Anyone know if Rose ran in the International for GB that year? His name wasn't listed in the TAFNEWS results. The year before he had finished something like 3rd, I think.
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Postby jsully » Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:49 am

DrJay wrote:Anyone know if Rose ran in the International for GB that year? His name wasn't listed in the TAFNEWS results. The year before he had finished something like 3rd, I think.


He was 3rd in 1980. Didn't start in 1981, here are the placings in 1981:

6 England 312
Julian Goater 4
Steve Binns 33
Dave Clarke 38
Ken Newton 70
Bernie Ford 76
Dave Moorcroft 91
Kevin Forster (132)
Bob Treadwell (165)
Mike McLeod (208)

http://www.mypage.bluewin.ch/tomtytom/i ... 1981S.html
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Postby SQUACKEE » Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:07 am

Thanx Jay, just what the doctor ordered.
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Postby DrJay » Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:28 am

jsully wrote:
DrJay wrote:Anyone know if Rose ran in the International for GB that year? His name wasn't listed in the TAFNEWS results. The year before he had finished something like 3rd, I think.


He was 3rd in 1980. Didn't start in 1981, here are the placings in 1981:


Do you know if he was ill or injured during the narrow (2 or 3 weeks) window between this race against Virgin and the International, or did the British selection committee just have a collective brain fade and not put him on the team?
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Postby jsully » Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:59 am

According to Pete Cava's T&FN story on the US race:

Rose, who finished 3rd to Virgin at last year's International, hopes that this race will impress British officials sufficiently that they will add him to their squad.

"If they don't, they are crazy'" opined Virgin. Then, as an afterthought, he added. "Even though it would be a lot easier on me."
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Postby malmo » Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:16 pm

DrJay wrote:Virgin started slowly, then moved up midway in the race. You can see him in the background in the blue and yellow. Who is that to Hunt's left?
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Mike McGuire, womens coach at Univ of Michigan
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Postby malmo » Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:16 pm

DrJay wrote:L-R Hunt, Dillon, ?, Malley, Nenow, Rose, ? Brown hat, ?Bickford
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The first ? is Mike McGuire
The hat is Mark Muggleton.
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Postby malmo » Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:29 pm

DrJay wrote:Is that Bickford on the left?[/img]


Affirmatory.
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Postby malmo » Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:47 pm

Same event in black and white.

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Postby jamese1045 » Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:06 am

malmo wrote:Same event in black and white.

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Good photo! Credit?
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Postby malmo » Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:41 am

jamese1045 wrote:Good photo! Credit?


What's the question?
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Postby jamese1045 » Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:55 am

malmo wrote:
jamese1045 wrote:Good photo! Credit?


What's the question?


Photo credits are s.o.p. If it's a picture you made, then well done! :D
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Postby MJD » Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:40 am

That would have been quite the trick.
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Postby malmo » Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:48 am

jamese1045 wrote:
malmo wrote:
jamese1045 wrote:Good photo! Credit?


What's the question?


Photo credits are s.o.p. If it's a picture you made, then well done! :D


Why would "SOP" apply?
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Postby jamese1045 » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:38 pm

malmo wrote:
jamese1045 wrote:
malmo wrote:
jamese1045 wrote:Good photo! Credit?


What's the question?


Photo credits are s.o.p. If it's a picture you made, then well done! :D


Why would "SOP" apply?


I only asked whether you made the photo or who did to offer my compliments. I don't know you, your age, background, nothing. Standard operating procedure when displaying photos publically is to show credit for the artistic ownership.

I could have been clearer and I am sorry to have caused any confusion.
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Postby malmo » Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:05 pm

jamese1045 wrote:I only asked whether you made the photo or who did to offer my compliments. I don't know you, your age, background, nothing. Standard operating procedure when displaying photos publically is to show credit for the artistic ownership.

I could have been clearer and I am sorry to have caused any confusion.
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"Artistic ownership" -- surely you jest? You've made a lot of presumptions there. Where I come from when someone gives you a photo, you don't ask them for their SSN and drivers license. You just say "thanks." Which I did.
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Postby bad hammy » Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:39 pm

Leave it to malmo to be rude and combative on even the most innocuous points. Nice way to once again sour another thread, your apparent raison d'être . .
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Postby malmo » Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:52 pm

bad hammy wrote:Leave it to malmo to be rude and combative on even the most innocuous points. Nice way to once again sour another thread, your apparent raison d'être . .


WTF? Give up. There's nothing rude or combative about my post. I'll bet you see insult in grease stains on a pizza box?

As is the modus operandi of you and your little clique, you don't participate in the discussion at hand and only post to muddy up the place. Then step back and say "what, me?" If you look in the mirror you'll find the only poster on this thread who's being combative.

Give it a rest, already.
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Postby bad hammy » Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:30 pm

Pathetic . . .
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Postby jamese1045 » Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:29 pm

malmo wrote:
jamese1045 wrote:I only asked whether you made the photo or who did to offer my compliments. I don't know you, your age, background, nothing. Standard operating procedure when displaying photos publically is to show credit for the artistic ownership.

I could have been clearer and I am sorry to have caused any confusion.
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"Artistic ownership" -- surely you jest? You've made a lot of presumptions there. Where I come from when someone gives you a photo, you don't ask them for their SSN and drivers license. You just say "thanks." Which I did.


"A lot of presumptions?" Not at all. Where you "come from" is not germane; here it is common practice, legally and in courtesy to the "artistic owner" of a photo, to attribute authorship. I'm afraid your reference to "SSN and drivers license" is a fatuous attempt at humor.

I was serious in my post and meant only to pass on a compliment for the good photo.[edit: why did you not answer the simple question?]
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Postby malmo » Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:10 pm

jamese1045 wrote:
malmo wrote:
jamese1045 wrote:I only asked whether you made the photo or who did to offer my compliments. I don't know you, your age, background, nothing. Standard operating procedure when displaying photos publically is to show credit for the artistic ownership.

I could have been clearer and I am sorry to have caused any confusion.
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"Artistic ownership" -- surely you jest? You've made a lot of presumptions there. Where I come from when someone gives you a photo, you don't ask them for their SSN and drivers license. You just say "thanks." Which I did.


"A lot of presumptions?" Not at all. Where you "come from" is not germane; here it is common practice, legally and in courtesy to the "artistic owner" of a photo, to attribute authorship. I'm afraid your reference to "SSN and drivers license" is a fatuous attempt at humor.

I was serious in my post and meant only to pass on a compliment for the good photo.[edit: why did you not answer the simple question?]
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How about I explain it to you in plain English. There is no "artistic ownership" as you say. Just Joe Blow taking a photo then passing it on. Then [edit 26 years] later me contributing to an internet message board thread. Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

But you didn't really want to hear that did you?
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