Ist olympic drug ban


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Ist olympic drug ban

Postby jamese1045 » Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:29 am

In the "1968 [edit for detail]Mexico City Olympics Revisited" item today, they mention one of the "landmarks" as the "first drug ban" of the games as: a swede pentathlete who imbibed in "excessive alcohol to improve his shooting."

ah, the good ole days...... :wink:

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Postby gh » Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:38 am

Just remember, in those "good old days" he could have been taking steroids as well, but that wasn't on the banned list.
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Postby Powell » Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:47 am

From what I remember, the first positive test in T&F didn't happen until 1976. Trivia Q: does anyone remember who it was?
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Postby Half Miler » Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:50 am

Brett Barclay.
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Postby gh » Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:03 pm

OK, I'll bite: what's a Brett Barclay?
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Postby gh » Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:11 pm

Powell wrote:From what I remember, the first positive test in T&F didn't happen until 1976. Trivia Q: does anyone remember who it was?


First Olympic positive, yes. First IAAF positive, as I recall, was the year before, same event, different sex. I'm sure on the first part, but not the second.
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Postby bambam » Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:29 pm

Here are all the Olympic doping irregularities for athletics:

1976 Danuta Rosani-Gwardecka POL Discus throw 14th QR (DNQ) Anabolic steroids
1984 Vesteinn Hafsteinsson ISL Discus throw 14th QR Nandrolone (anabolic steroid)
1984 Gian-Paolo Urlando ITA Hammer throw 4th Testosterone (anabolic steroid)
1984 Martti Vainio FIN 10,000 meters 2nd Methenolone (anabolic steroid)
1984 Anna Verouli GRE Javelin throw 13th QR Nandrolone (anabolic steroid)
1988 Ben Johnson CAN 100 meters 1st Stanozolol (anabolic steroid)
1992 Madina Biktagirova EUN Marathon 4th Norephedrine (stimulant)
1992 Bonnie Dasse USA Shot put 14th QR Clenbuterol (ß-agonist)
1992 Judson Logan USA Hammer throw 4th Clenbuterol (ß-agonist)
1992 Nijole Medvedeva LTU Long jump 4th Meziocarde (a stimulant)
1996 Ivan Prandzheva BUL Long jump, 7th triple jump, 4th Methadienone (stimulant)
1996 Nataliya Shekhodanova RUS 100 metre hurdles, 7th Stanozolol (anabolic steroid)
1996 Marie McMahon IRL 5,000 metres 14th/H2R1 Phenylpropenolamine (an OTC cold remedy). Only a warning was given because of extenuating circumstances
1996 Marina Trandenkova RUS 100 metres 5th Bromantan (ß-agonist). A reprimand was given but the placement was allowed to stand
2000 Sydney Svetlana Pospelova RUS 400 metres 4th/H7R1 Stanozolol (anabolic steroid)
2000 Sydney Marion Jones USA 100/200/LJ/4x100/4x400 1st/1st/3rd/3rd/1st Revealed in 2007 having used THG (tetrahydrogestinone – aka “The Clear”)
2004 Adrian Annus HUN Hammer throw, 1st Tampering with urine sample, and then refusing to submit to a second test
2004 Robert Fazekas HUN Discus throw, 1st Refusal to provide a urine sample
2004 Anton Galkin RUS 400 metres, 4th SF Stanozolol (anabolic steroid)
2004 Irina Korzhanenko RUS Shot put, 1st Stanozolol (anabolic steroid)
2004 Aleksey Lesnichy BLR High jump, DNQ QR Group B Clenbuterol (ß-agonist)
2004 Olga Shchukina UZB Shot put, 18th in Group A of qualifying Clenbuterol (ß-agonist)
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Postby guru » Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:53 pm

Good work bam.

Not sure how this would work in terms of the timeline of her usage, but fair to assume Jones' results from 2004 will be tossed as well?
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Postby eldrick » Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:11 pm

bambam wrote:1996 Ivan Prandzheva BUL Long jump, 7th triple jump, 4th Methadienone (stimulant)


bam

that one's a steroid
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Postby bambam » Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:50 pm

eldrick wrote:
bambam wrote:1996 Ivan Prandzheva BUL Long jump, 7th triple jump, 4th Methadienone (stimulant)


bam

that one's a steroid


Good point, thanx. And yes, based on history, Jones's medals are all toast. I also think the relay medals are gone as well. The analogy to Jerome Young does not hold up well, in which his medal was removed, but the other runners were allowed to keep theirs. Young only ran in the preliminaries and not the final. Jones ran only in the final of the 4x1 and 4x4.
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Postby tandfman » Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:08 pm

bambam wrote: I also think the relay medals are gone as well. The analogy to Jerome Young does not hold up well, in which his medal was removed, but the other runners were allowed to keep theirs. Young only ran in the preliminaries and not the final.

I'm not so sure about that. Although Young didn't run the final, that apparently wasn't why the others were allowed to keep their medals.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/ch ... 9675.story

Ruling against the International Association of Athletics Federations and the International Olympic Committee on a similar case, the Court of Arbitration for Sport said it was "legal abracadabra" to punish all members of a 2000 Olympic relay that included one doped athlete because rules at the time did not specify such punishment. . . .
That Young ran only in the relay preliminaries was not germane to CAS' 2005 ruling on the status of the other runners' medals.
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Postby Powell » Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:06 pm

gh wrote:
Powell wrote:From what I remember, the first positive test in T&F didn't happen until 1976. Trivia Q: does anyone remember who it was?


First Olympic positive, yes. First IAAF positive, as I recall, was the year before


Yes, I did mean the Olympics (as the title of the thread says).
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Postby Half Miler » Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:47 pm

gh wrote:OK, I'll bite: what's a Brett Barclay?


According to wikipedia, Brett Barclay and Danuta Rosani were the only Athletics doping positives from the Montreal Games.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping_at_ ... 6_Montreal
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Postby gh » Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:00 pm

Note that he's not on bam's definitive list; I don't recall the name at all in any context.
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Postby bambam » Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:29 pm

Half Miler wrote:
gh wrote:According to wikipedia, Brett Barclay and Danuta Rosani were the only Athletics doping positives from the Montreal Games.


Nobody named Brett competed for Canada in Athletics at the 1976 Olympic Games. Nobody named Barclay competed for Canada in Athletics at the 1976 Olympic Games. And nobody named Brett Barclay, in any variation I could find, has competed for any nation at the Olympics in any sport. And in case he was an alternate in 1976, the 1976 Canadian Olympic Association does not list anybody by that name as being on the Canadian team.
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Postby bad hammy » Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:42 pm

My guess is that someone who knows a Brett Barclay in Canada has been bogusly adding his name as a PED user in various online sites. This site has him as a PED-suspected member of the Toronto Blue Jays. Online baseball sites have no listing of a Brett Barclay.

http://www.sport.degree-essays.com/drug ... ssays.html
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Postby bambam » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:24 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping_at_ ... 6_Montreal

Did somebody on this list change that link because Barclay is no longer on it? Either that or they're reading this board.
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Postby Half Miler » Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:00 am

Sheesh. I've been duped. :oops:
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Postby eldrick » Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:10 am

bambam wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping_at_the_Olympic_Games#1976_Montreal

Did somebody on this list change that link because Barclay is no longer on it? Either that or they're reading this board.


you are spot on ( i believe fizbin was an ole poster here ) :

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit ... =151710365
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