¶mHigh Jump: Jim Dilling 7-5 1/4 (2.27)


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¶mHigh Jump: Jim Dilling 7-5 1/4 (2.27)

Postby dj » Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:08 am

I'm wimping out and working inside today, rather than risk a major meltdown in this rain, which of course has almost stopped at this very moment.

Five simultaneous field events at one point today, so I don't know what will happen with which.
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Postby dj » Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:10 am

Wet, but not raining at 2.15

2.15, 2.18, 2.21, 2.24, 2.27, 2.30, 2.33
Jim Dilling
o, xo, xo, xp, xo, xxx

2= Adam Shunk
o, o, o, o, xxx
2= Jamie Nieto
o, o, o, o, xxx
4 Jesse Williams
xxo, _, o, o, xxx
5 Keith Moffatt
o, xo, p, xo, xxx

6 Tora Harris
o, xo, o, xxx
Eugene Hutchinson
xo, o, xo, xxx

Cedric Norman
o, x?, xxp?, p --WE DON'T KNOW NORMAN's correct card (xx at 2.30)

Scott Sellers
o, o, xxx
Will Littleton
xo, o, xxx
Ed Wright
xo, xo, xxx
Marcus Harris
o, xp, xx
Andra Manson
o, xp, xx--------PROBABLY
Kyle Lancaster
xxo, xxx

Tim Sebastian
xxx
Dusty Jonas
xxx
Kyley Johnson
xxx
Ryan Fritz
xxx
Matthew Carter
PROBABLY DNS
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Postby Jnathletics » Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:51 am

dj wrote:Wet, but not raining at 2.15
2.15,
Jesse Williams
xxo,


Looks like he is in for a short day. I guess those California's can't handle some good old fashioned Midwestern weather. :P
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Postby tafnut » Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:01 am

Jnathletics wrote:Looks like he is in for a short day. I guess those California's can't handle some good old fashioned Midwestern weather. :P


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Never_R ... ifornia%29
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Postby BisonHurdler » Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:10 am

JW looked fine over 7-3 at least. Big cushion.
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Postby dj » Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:06 am

Jump-off for 2nd between Nieto and Shunk who were tied.

2.27, 2.24
Nieto x,
Shunk x,

Don't know what happened, and haven't heard PA
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Postby Fly High » Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:10 am

Shunk has only met the B-standard (2.27). I've heard the rules are changed by the IAAF so that nations can send 2 athletes with an A-standard and 1 with a B-standard. How is USATF policy? will they send the top-3 with an A-standard (would mean Williams taking the third spot) or use the 2+1? anyone know?
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Postby tafnut » Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:11 am

Fly High wrote:btw, why would they have a jump off between Nieto and Shunk?


I was wondering the same thing. Dwight said it was was because neither had the A-standard, but we all know that CAN'T be the reason. It MUST be so that we have a clear 2nd and a clear 3rd, so that if and when someone doesn't get the A but someone else does, we can send three and know who to send?
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Postby Fly High » Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:10 pm

haha, I removed my question since I thought it might be stupid :)

I thought that Nieto had met the A-standard in 2006, but he hasn't.

So that's probably the reason...They can't send two at a B-standard. You are absolutely right Tafnut
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Postby EPelle » Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:41 pm

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Postby Dietmar239 » Sun Jun 24, 2007 1:10 pm

Miserable conditions out there. Athletes like Williams and Sellers bring a lot of speed into the curve and when you can't do that your steps and positioning are completely out of whack. It's a shame for Scott with 2.32 and 2.33 clearances this year, but he'll be back in 08' in a big way.

HOWEVER, I thought was watching Eurosport there for a minute with the in depth coverage of the field events in general. It almost reminded me of the pay-per-view "Triple Cast" that they had for Barcelona 92'. Finally, Track & FIELD was shown instead of a 'track' meet.
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Postby tandfman » Sun Jun 24, 2007 1:27 pm

Fly High wrote:So that's probably the reason...They can't send two at a B-standard. You are absolutely right Tafnut

There's another possibility. I believe a country can enter only two in each event in the Pan-American Games, and if all of the top three wanted to go, they'd need a jump-off to break the tie for second.
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Postby Per Andersen » Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:10 pm

So who won the jump-off between Shunk and Nieto? They both have "B" standard. Only Dilling is clear. Williams in 4th and Mofffat in 5th have "A" standards.
So the way I understand this only one B can start in Osaka. Whoever won the jump-off will then jump in Osaka. The jump-off loser will jump in Osaka provided he gets the "A" before Aug 1.

Really frustrating to watch the HJ on NBC. Dwight comes on for about 10 seconds at a time. It's way to fast, like always. He did have time to say that Williams was the world's fastest in the turn in the run-up at this time.
HJers are only shown from the knees up untill they are on top of the bar.
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Postby 26mi235 » Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:43 pm

Per Andersen wrote:So who won the jump-off between Shunk and Nieto? They both have "B" standard. Only Dilling is clear. Williams in 4th and Mofffat in 5th have "A" standards.
So the way I understand this only one B can start in Osaka. Whoever won the jump-off will then jump in Osaka. The jump-off loser will jump in Osaka provided he gets the "A" before Aug 1.

Really frustrating to watch the HJ on NBC. Dwight comes on for about 10 seconds at a time. It's way to fast, like always. He did have time to say that Williams was the world's fastest in the turn in the run-up at this time.
HJers are only shown from the knees down untill they are on top of the bar.


It might have been way too fast, but it was there, and it was there sequentially and not -- here is third, second, and first. Given the constraints and the typical coverage I really appreciated it. Add to that, for some reason I thought that the program was only going to be 60 minutes and so I was quite surprised to be getting running commentary on the HJ. It also made it possible to see the evolution of the weather (drying up). Of course, the HJ was not quite at the same level as the 200!!!!!
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Postby Per Andersen » Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:04 pm

I know what you are saying but I can't take these 10 second snippets. When Dwight comes on it's panic city because he's gone in a flash while the other guys can drone on with endless, banal human interest stuff.
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Postby gh » Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:47 am

tandfman wrote:
Fly High wrote:So that's probably the reason...They can't send two at a B-standard. You are absolutely right Tafnut

There's another possibility. I believe a country can enter only two in each event in the Pan-American Games, and if all of the top three wanted to go, they'd need a jump-off to break the tie for second.


both explanations were factors
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Postby gh » Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:51 am

Think weather had much to do with it? Lowest winning height since same setting in '81.
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Postby Jnathletics » Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:55 am

Per Andersen wrote:He did have time to say that Williams was the world's fastest in the turn in the run-up at this time.


I don't believe this. Have you ever seen Holm, now he is fast.
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Postby Per Andersen » Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:18 pm

Please answer if you know - Who won the jump-off?
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Postby tafnut » Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:38 pm

Nieto
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Postby Per Andersen » Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:43 pm

tafnut wrote:Nieto

Thanks!!
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Postby HMoley » Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:59 pm

Think weather had much to do with it? Lowest winning height since same setting in '81.

Yes- They had to do most of their warm-ups in the pouring rain. Although the rain had mostly stopped by the time the competition started, they were wet, the pit was was wet and the apron was still wet. I wasn't cold as a spectator, but I was wearing a jacket and rain pancho. I'm sure they had to be feeling pretty miserable.
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Postby tandfman » Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:08 pm

HMoley wrote:I wasn't cold as a spectator, but I was wearing a jacket and rain pancho. I'm sure they had to be feeling pretty miserable.

Once the rain stopped (before 1pm) I took off my rain jacket and the rest of the afternoon wore just a T-shirt (and, yes, I was also wearing pants). I was not at all cold. I believe the temp was in the 70's.
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Postby tafnut » Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:50 pm

tandfman wrote: the rest of the afternoon wore just a T-shirt (and, yes, I was also wearing pants).


oh man, you were THIS close to getting this whole thread yanked! :shock:
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Postby tandfman » Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:56 pm

I was afraid that if I didn't add the parenthetical, some joker might have asked if a T-shirt was really all I was wearing, and then the thread could really have gone bad in a hurry.
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Postby HMoley » Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:00 pm

tafnut wrote:
tandfman wrote: the rest of the afternoon wore just a T-shirt (and, yes, I was also wearing pants).


oh man, you were THIS close to getting this whole thread yanked! :shock:


:P Glad you kept your pants on too!! You're right, by early evening it was sunny, hot and humid. It wasn't raining or cold during the actual jumping, but all were soaked to the bone from the downpour during the warm up. At least last year there was the delay due to lightening so no one was really out in the rain. Oh well- good luck to those heading to Japan, Brazil or just taking the summer off.
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Postby dukehjsteve » Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:34 pm

[quote="HMoley"]Think weather had much to do with it? Lowest winning height since same setting in '81.

Not quite. Indy's first one was 2 years later, in 1983. 1981 was Sacramento.
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