Montgomery Pleads Guilty, Avoids Trial [46 Month Sentence]


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Postby malmo » Wed May 16, 2007 2:01 pm

tafnut wrote:
malmo wrote:
tafnut wrote:
malmo wrote:Montgomery . . . have a weight room,

How ironic - he'll have plenty of time to get big, legitimately.

TOE? That's not irony.


In denotation you are quite right. In common usage, anything that used to be called 'poetic justice' is now labeled 'ironic'. Don't shoot the messenger. I teach my students to respond to language and shape it to their needs. I needed 'ironic' :wink: more than 'poetic justice', but I repeat, in denotation, you are correct, sir. Is that wishy-washy enough for ya?


Here's a question for you (and your class), is it ironic that Alanis Morissette's song "Ironic" hasn't even one line of irony in the lyrics?

"And isn't it ironic... don't you think?"

Nope.
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Postby tafnut » Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:53 pm

malmo wrote:Here's a question for you (and your class), is it ironic that Alanis Morissette's song "Ironic" hasn't even one line of irony in the lyrics?
"And isn't it ironic... don't you think?"
Nope.


Hey, I found Malmo's favorite site:

http://www.sarcasmsociety.com/howtorecognizeirony/
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Postby malmo » Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:10 pm

tafnut wrote:
malmo wrote:Here's a question for you (and your class), is it ironic that Alanis Morissette's song "Ironic" hasn't even one line of irony in the lyrics?
"And isn't it ironic... don't you think?"
Nope.


Hey, I found Malmo's favorite site:

http://www.sarcasmsociety.com/howtorecognizeirony/


Why would that be my favorite site?
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Postby tafnut » Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:53 am

malmo wrote:Why would that be my favorite site?


So you don't have to explain the concept any more:

How To Recognize Irony: A Beginners Guide


Plus your trademark wit could be sharpened with this:

How to be Sarcastic


I see you as the kind of guy who ENJOYS verbal (or in this case 'written') pugilism. Yes/no? I apologize if I have you pegged wrong!
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Postby malmo » Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:05 am

tafnut wrote:
malmo wrote:Why would that be my favorite site?


So you don't have to explain the concept any more:

How To Recognize Irony: A Beginners Guide


Plus your trademark wit could be sharpened with this:

How to be Sarcastic


I see you as the kind of guy who ENJOYS verbal (or in this case 'written') pugilism. Yes/no? I apologize if I have you pegged wrong!


NO. You're projecting.
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Postby stallion » Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:57 am

"He vvho fights vvith monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." Beyond Good and Evil.
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Postby Daisy » Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:21 am

stallion wrote:"He vvho fights vvith monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." Beyond Good and Evil.


Nice quote but which of the two is the monster? Looks like your warning is a year too late. :twisted:
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Postby tafnut » Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:47 am

malmo wrote:NO. You're projecting.


Oh, yeah . . . my bad . . .

BTW, malmo, are you going to the OT next year? I won't burden you with meeting me, but I sure as heck am gonna have someone point you out. I'l just do my worshipping of you (and SD!!) from afar. :D
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Postby SQUACKEE » Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:50 am

I'd like to start a poll. Who would you rather share a small stuffy apartment with?

A. Malmo

B.Tafnut

No, death is not an option. :P
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Postby Daisy » Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:53 am

SQUACKEE wrote:I'd like to start a poll. Who would you rather share a small stuffy apartment with?

A. Malmo

B. Tafnut

C. Death

No, death is not an option. :P


It is now.

But seriously, talking track can't be so bad. For us europeans we could always stick Kurt in for option C :shock: Just pulling your leg Kurt, I promise not to mention metric :twisted:
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Postby SQUACKEE » Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:58 am

Daisy wrote:
SQUACKEE wrote:I'd like to start a poll. Who would you rather share a small stuffy apartment with?

A. Malmo

B. Tafnut

C. Death

No, death is not an option. :P


It is now.

But seriously, talking track can't be so bad. For us europeans we could always stick Kurt in for option three :shock: Just kidding :twisted:


:lol: :lol: Hey the only answer is A. and B. because you will soon be living alone again.
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Postby tafnut » Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:56 am

SQUACKEE wrote:Hey the only answer is A. and B. because you will soon be living alone again.


My wife says she married me as a noble attempt to save any other woman the ignominy! I'm sure she'll be canonized shortly after our demise. She also says our 32 years of marriage (yikes - that sounds like a lot!!) is a world record, cuz every year of marriage to me is worth at least three for anyone else. Luckily she was born with a sizable genetic predisposition to masochism, so it's ALL GOOD! :D
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Postby malmo » Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:10 pm

tafnut wrote:BTW, malmo, are you going to the OT next year?
Of course, I'll be smack dab in the middle of all the fun: the world-class barbecues, raft trips, Aggiepalooza, celebrations "out West" of Oregon's ultra-liberal interpretation of the lexeme "free speech", free T-shirts, etc... My guest-of-honor will be one of the most revered names in the road race world.

Even catty wallflowers are welcome into my circle. There are no fees (except for the raft trip) and no velvet ropes to keep you out.
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Postby eldrick » Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:20 pm

Daisy wrote:For us europeans we could always stick Kurt in for option C :shock: Just pulling your leg Kurt, I promise not to mention metric :twisted:


hey !

leave this euro out !

i need to bug kurt with answer to ole/new javelin conversion - both ?6' long/800g but they pushed center of mass back by ?12"
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Postby tafnut » Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:36 pm

malmo wrote:I'll be smack dab in the middle of all the fun: the world-class barbecues, raft trips, Aggiepalooza, celebrations "out West" of Oregon's ultra-liberal interpretation of the lexeme "free speech", free T-shirts, etc... My guest-of-honor will be one of the most revered names in the road race world.


:shock: Don't tease me - that actually sounds wicked cool!
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Postby SQUACKEE » Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:45 am

[quote="malmo"
Even catty wallflowers are welcome into my circle..[/quote]

Howz bout super groovy, smart and funny track nutz? 8)
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Postby malmo » Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:48 am

SQUACKEE wrote:[quote="malmo"
Even catty wallflowers are welcome into my circle..

Howz bout super groovy, smart and funny track nutz?


Sage lyrics, Squakee:

People yakkity yak a streak
and waste your time o' day.
But Mister Ed will never speak
unless he has something to say!
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Postby SQUACKEE » Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:42 pm

malmo wrote:
SQUACKEE wrote:[quote="malmo"
Even catty wallflowers are welcome into my circle..

Howz bout super groovy, smart and funny track nutz?


Sage lyrics, Squakee:

People yakkity yak a streak
and waste your time o' day.
But Mister Ed will never speak
unless he has something to say!


Mr. Ed has always been an inspiration and quite frankly a role model for me and like my other idols and heroes im a couple of piles of manure short of his economical verbage. My devotion to this four legged movie star even survived the viscious " peanut butter myth".
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Postby Mennisco » Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:10 am

malmo wrote:Here's a question for you (and your class), is it ironic that Alanis Morissette's song "Ironic" hasn't even one line of irony in the lyrics?

"And isn't it ironic... don't you think?"

Nope.


"Mr. Play It Safe was afraid to fly
He packed his suitcase and kissed his kids goodbye
He waited his whole damn life to take that flight
And as the plane crashed down he thought
"Well isn't this nice..."
And isn't it ironic... don't you think"


http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/alanismo ... ronic.html

Cambridge, Merriam-Webster, and Oxford define a particular meaning of irony:

irony (WRONG RESULT)
noun
a situation in which something which was intended to have a particular result has the opposite or a very different result:
The irony (of it) is that the new tax system will burden those it was intended to help
.


http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define. ... &dict=CALD

incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result (2) : an event or result marked by such incongruity

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/irony


a state of affairs that appears perversely contrary to what one expects.

http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/irony?view=uk

I would venture that overcoming a lifetime of aviophobia, only to have the plane crash, easily satisfies the Oxfordian definition of constituting a state of affairs perversely contrary to what one expects.
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Postby malmo » Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:46 am

Mennisco wrote:
"Mr. Play It Safe was afraid to fly
He packed his suitcase and kissed his kids goodbye
He waited his whole damn life to take that flight
And as the plane crashed down he thought
"Well isn't this nice..."
And isn't it ironic... don't you think"



I would venture that overcoming a lifetime of aviophobia, only to have the plane crash, easily satisfies the Oxfordian definition of constituting a state of affairs perversely contrary to what one expects.


You found the one example of irony in the entire mislabeled song. Bravo.
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Postby stallion » Thu May 01, 2008 12:29 pm

http://hamptonroads.com/2008/05/track-star-indicted-federal-heroin-trafficking-charge
Montgomery has been indicted on heroin distribution charges.
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Postby Marlow » Thu May 01, 2008 1:24 pm

stallion wrote:Montgomery has been indicted on heroin distribution charges.

and the news just keeps getting gooder and gooder . . . :(
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Postby Zat0pek » Fri May 02, 2008 6:21 am

stallion wrote:http://hamptonroads.com/2008/05/track-star-indicted-federal-heroin-trafficking-charge
Montgomery has been indicted on heroin distribution charges.


This should surprise no one. Once you deal in illegal substances, it's only a matter of degree.

Like the old Hollywood parable from many years ago: A wealthy and powerful man was attending a party. Also in attendance was a gorgeous but struggling up and coming young starlet. The man offered her $1 million to sleep with him. The young starlet, knowing the man could open doors for her in the industry and desperate for money, agreed. Then the man asked if she would sleep with him for $100. She responded, "Of course not, what kind of girl do you think I am?!?!" The man smiled and responded, "We've already established that, my dear. We are now merely negotiating the price."
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Postby EPelle » Fri May 16, 2008 9:51 am

Montgomery will be charged today; facing between recommended 37 and 46 months.
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Postby EPelle » Fri May 16, 2008 10:07 am

Montgomery sent to prison for 46months (story)
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Postby dakota » Fri May 16, 2008 11:21 am

malmo wrote:
Mennisco wrote:
"Mr. Play It Safe was afraid to fly
He packed his suitcase and kissed his kids goodbye
He waited his whole damn life to take that flight
And as the plane crashed down he thought
"Well isn't this nice..."
And isn't it ironic... don't you think"



I would venture that overcoming a lifetime of aviophobia, only to have the plane crash, easily satisfies the Oxfordian definition of constituting a state of affairs perversely contrary to what one expects.


You found the one example of irony in the entire mislabeled song. Bravo.


Dying in a plane crash when you're afraid of flying isn't ironic.
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Postby 26mi235 » Fri May 16, 2008 11:47 am

I got a surprise that took a moment to unravel. I went down to the bottom of the first page to see if there was material from today that I had not yet read. I started reading the posts from May 16, which continued for a ways and was confusing given the current context. I finally realized that it was May 16, 2007 (not 2008).

In light of his later activities, it is not very surprising that Montgomery was going the PEDs route.

In light of his usage of PEDs, it is not too surprising that he is in the troubles that he has gotten himself into.
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Postby EPelle » Sat May 17, 2008 2:23 am

26mi235 wrote:In light of his later activities, it is not very surprising that Montgomery was going the PEDs route.

In light of his usage of PEDs, it is not too surprising that he is in the troubles that he has gotten himself into.

The key here, however, has been to stay ahead of the "light", not behind it.
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Postby EPelle » Mon May 26, 2008 12:53 am

Words of advice from Montgomery to his brother (story):

Eddie Montgomery knows full well his brother's spectre will follow him to Canada, but prefers to think of the good his sibling taught him over the years -- such as training faithfully -- and wants to do what he can to repair his family's name.

"We all make mistakes. Like I told him, 'You made the bed you have to sleep in.' And he told me, 'You're right.' But one thing he said he sees in me is how I work towards my dreams and my goals," he said. "He said one thing he didn't have that I have was leadership. He said he wishes he'd been more of a leader instead of a follower, and the dedication I have to my goals is admirable to him.

"Now it's on me. He gave me all the tools he could for me to achieve all my goals. I can take that and use it or be like other people, followers. He wants me to be a leader, so that's what I'm gonna be -- a leader."
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Postby proofs in the pudd'in » Mon May 26, 2008 10:58 am

Cambridge, Merriam-Webster, and Oxford define a particular meaning of irony:

irony (WRONG RESULT)
noun
a situation in which something which was intended to have a particular result has the opposite or a very different result:
The irony (of it) is that the new tax system will burden those it was intended to help
.


http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define. ... &dict=CALD

incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result (2) : an event or result marked by such incongruity

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/irony


a state of affairs that appears perversely contrary to what one expects.

http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/irony?view=uk

Kinda like the Democratic Party in the U.S. :lol: :lol:
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