The legal side of the story


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The legal side of the story

Postby Dred » Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:37 am

From the legal side now, how possible is it to be quilty for taking something that is not registered ?
What about research to proove that this substance has indeed anabolic properties. Chemical similarity doesn't say anything.

How is it possible to rely on some "anonumous source" who has send a used syringe (by whom was it used ?) and start mess with people's names ?

And all the above before the end of the story...

Finally, is there any legal basis to start retesting ? and if yes then what about retesting on past Norbolethone use ? Wasn't this steroid "accidentall" slept away from the Super WADA and the other authorities list's ???

Such question could be endless...
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Re: The legal side of the story

Postby bubba » Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:48 am

Have you read any of the other thread or you just throwing this out because you didn't like what you read?
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Re: The legal side of the story

Postby Dred » Wed Oct 22, 2003 11:04 am

Is this your answer to the above questions?
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Re: The legal side of the story

Postby bubba » Wed Oct 22, 2003 11:06 am

Yah. Go read the other threads. More than one of your questions is answered there.
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Re: The legal side of the story

Postby Guest » Wed Oct 22, 2003 12:16 pm

<<How is it possible to rely on some "anonumous
source" who has send a used syringe (by whom was
it used ?) and start mess with people's names ?>>

Why are so many people hung up on the anonymous source issue? Are they really that naive to think that the entire case is based only on this source.

Maybe this tip caused USADA (or any other agency) to begin an investigation that produced the concrete evidence that was used to crack the case. I could be wrong, but I'm going to guess that the people in charge were smart enough to independently verify the claims made by the "anonymous" source.

Are we certain that the person is truly "anonymous"? He/she may be anonymous to to the general public, but there's a chance that the investigators know who it is. Perhaps they feel that naming this person would hinder the rest of the investigation?

Over the past week, there have been ~300 posts regarding this issue. Yes, it is a BIG deal and could have serious repercussions for the sport. However, we have people on both sides arguing about what is legal or not legal without knowing all of the facts.

It's time to sit back, relax and wait for all of the pieces to fall into place.
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Re: The legal side of the story

Postby Guest » Wed Oct 22, 2003 2:36 pm

GO take a look at the now record thread USADA Bombshell. there is a fantastic discussion led by this maverick Eddie who calls it as he sees it and is relentless in pointing out exactly your concerns.

HE was banned from this bb because someone incorrectly assumed that Eddie was disengenuous.

But there is nothing left to do but watch Rome Burn.
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Re: The legal side of the story

Postby Guest » Wed Oct 22, 2003 3:03 pm

<<...maverick Eddie who calls it as he sees it
and is relentless in pointing out exactly your
concerns.>>

Actually, the biggest problem with Eddie's argument was that it was based on pure speculation on his part. That is, he seems to think that the investigators are an incompetent bunch of idiots who don't know that law.

As big a bombshell as this is, I would bet that everyone involved made sure they dotted the "i's and crossed their "t"'s before they went public. In other words, they made sure the investigated was conducted in a way that met all any any legal standards.
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Re: The legal side of the story

Postby Guest » Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:01 pm

you watch too much t.v.

most fed investigations are led by bumbling cops, not clever Columbo style cops.

There are many many cases where the feds just plain blew it when the cases got to court. This looks like a very thinly disguised and illegal search of Balco and the theft of a client list.

You didn't see Dwain Chambers on the BALCO Client list did you? Wassssup with dat?

Can you say smear campaign. So where did Mr Chammbers get his THG, pray tell?

In the end, I'll bet nobody, not one athlete who tests positive, fingers BALCO for the THG.

Then what?
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Re: The legal side of the story

Postby MJD » Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:17 pm

>you watch too much t.v.

most fed
>investigations are led by bumbling cops, not
>clever Columbo style cops.

There are many many
>cases where the feds just plain blew it when the
>cases got to court. This looks like a very
>thinly disguised and illegal search of Balco and
>the theft of a client list.

You didn't see
>Dwain Chambers on the BALCO Client list did you?
>Wassssup with dat?

Can you say smear campaign.
>So where did Mr Chammbers get his THG, pray tell?
>

In the end, I'll bet nobody, not one athlete
>who tests positive, fingers BALCO for the
>THG.

Then what?

Do please try to keep up. To wit:

"“Some time ago my client, Dwain Chambers, went to the United States to further his athletics training under world-renowned trainer Remi Korchemney.
“As part of the training programme Mr Korchemney instructed him to use a Mr Victor Conte of Balco Laboratories in California as his nutritionist and made all arrangements."

The entire statement here:

http://www.news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=2084065
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Re: The legal side of the story

Postby michael lewis » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:29 pm

last laff is Eddie and all his little uni kiddie friends. barely out of diapers and really working that attitude. just in case ya didn't know. PS Eddie/last laff/severely fragmented headcase: don't laff till the fat lady sings.
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