White HS sprinters trivia


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Postby Littlemac » Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:46 pm

100m
1. Wayne Johnson '78 TX 5A HS Champ
2. Casey Combest '98 KY HS Champ
3. Matt Bruno '02 CA HS Champ
4. Jason Leach '84 TX 5A 2nd place
5. Trey Griffin '01 TX 4A HS Champ


Of these guys the only one that had any success after high school was Jason Leach.
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Postby jhc68 » Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:53 pm

Back in the day... 41 years worth of days, in fact, Fred Kuller emerged during his senior year at Santiago HS in Orange County, CA. He ran consistent sub-10 sec 100yds, then went on to Santa Ana JC, to the USA/USSR dual meet, to USC and 9.3 (or 9.4?) PR and the WR 440 yd relay team.
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Postby Track fan » Sun Dec 04, 2005 10:35 am

I can see a National enquirer story years from now, I blew away Reggie Bush......... :lol:
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Postby harvtrack » Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:04 pm

100m
1. Wayne Johnson '78 TX 5A HS Champ
2. Casey Combest '98 KY HS Champ
3. Matt Bruno '02 CA HS Champ
4. Jason Leach '84 TX 5A 2nd place
5. Trey Griffin '01 TX 4A HS Champ


Of these guys the only one that had any success after high school was Jason Leach.

Yes, but Griifin gets another shot at fame...after playing football at SMU he is in grad school at Texas and has a year of eligibility left (is listed on the horns roster)[quote][/quote]
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Postby JRM » Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:24 pm

I was the top white high school sprinter in New Brunswick in 1988-89, for what's it worth... :P
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Postby Track fan » Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:06 pm

I bet that doesn't even get you a free cup off cofee........ :lol: By the way what did you run?
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Postby JRM » Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:19 pm

Track fan wrote:I bet that doesn't even get you a free cup off cofee........ :lol: By the way what did you run?


I'll take the free cup of coffee!... I ran the 100m and 200m in high school, PRs of 10.9s (11.15) and 22.6 (22.91). At the end of the summer of '89 (Canada Games), I had graduated to 400m (49.90). For the next 4 years, I only ran indoors, so never really matched those times, although I had a 300m PR of 36.63 somewhere in there.
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Re: White HS sprinters trivia

Postby CookyMonzta » Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:03 am

basehead617 wrote:Re Casey Combest:

Here's a good article about him from last year:

http://www.courier-journal.com/cjsports ... 367746.htm

was he that good? 6.57 60m high school record which still stands (from 3/14/99).. you be the judge..

im not sure of his 100m PR but i know he had a FAT 10.2x in the following outdoor season, and a 10.1 hand timed. fast white boy!


Speaking of runners named Casey, whatever happened to Casey Custer (11.38/23.70), who went to high school in Texas, then went to Florida State?
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Postby Jacksf » Wed Dec 07, 2005 10:16 am

I had never heard of Casey Custer, but a quick internet check shows her as the Texas HS girls 100m record holder at 11.38.

That might also make her the fastest white American woman sprinter ever.
It is something discussed previously with no definitive answer....

...http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/discus ... t=innocent
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Postby Jacksf » Sat Dec 10, 2005 7:28 pm

Well Matt Bruno certainly has something to tell his kids one day, now that Reggie Bush has won the Heisman....
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Postby mrbowie » Sat Dec 10, 2005 8:59 pm

Next to reruns of Saturday Night Light, my second favorite form of late night entertainment is catching up on my honky sprinter trivia.
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Postby Jacksf » Sat Dec 10, 2005 10:18 pm

I enjoy it anytime.... ;-)
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Postby CookyMonzta » Sat Dec 10, 2005 10:57 pm

Jacksf wrote:I had never heard of Casey Custer, but a quick internet check shows her as the Texas HS girls 100m record holder at 11.38.

That might also make her the fastest white American woman sprinter ever.
It is something discussed previously with no definitive answer....

...http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/discus ... t=innocent

Interesting enough. How fast did Susan Shurr (U. of Texas) run the 100? I know her PR in the 200 was 23.29, probably the fastest by a white American; unless I read right, sometime in 1995 or 1996, that Ali McKnight ran 23.15.

By the way, I haven't seen this entire thread, but has anyone mentioned Victor Moore, who ranked number 1 in the high school 110H in 1983?
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Postby Jacksf » Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:11 am

Never heard of Victor Moore before, but did confirm he was ranked #1 by T&FN in '83 with wins at Golden West, Golden South, and a best of 13.69.
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Postby Jacksf » Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:13 am

Can't find a time for Shurr in the 100m.
However, did confirm that Ali McKnight ran a 23.13 in '96, so that is the best 200m as far as I know.
Also discovered that McKnight is a very, very attractive fitness model.
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Postby CookyMonzta » Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:45 pm

Jacksf wrote:Can't find a time for Shurr in the 100m.
However, did confirm that Ali McKnight ran a 23.13 in '96, so that is the best 200m as far as I know.
Also discovered that McKnight is a very, very attractive fitness model.

Thanks. I thought Ali's 200 performance was somewhere in the 23.1x range. I guess I'm just too lazy to dig through 22 years of T&FN magazines.

Now, the way Jenny Adams' fortunes have been going in the 100H as of late, maybe 2006 is the year she ought to take a crack at the 200, and maybe the flat 100 as well. She should have little trouble bringing her PR (23.51, I believe) much closer to or under 23.00.
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Postby Jacksf » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:10 pm

Jenny needs to take up another event....she is stagnating in the hurdles.
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Postby CookyMonzta » Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:19 am

Jacksf wrote:Jenny needs to take up another event....she is stagnating in the hurdles.

Indeed. You figure by now someone in this country, like Jenny, would get inspiration from someone like Ivet Lalova, and try the open sprints. The fact that she was able to run 12.63 in the 100H only leads me to conclude that maybe she is capable of running 11.20/23.00.
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Re: White HS sprinters trivia

Postby jcox964 » Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:03 pm

deloach wrote:Sammy Dirske sp from Texas was my roomie in a national HS meet in Mt Prospect Ill. He was the Texas state champ and was the fastest or so in the early 70s. ( I was a high jumper back then)Sammy D. held Sealy & local area 100 & 220 yd sprint record until some kid by the name of Eric Dickerson broke his records.. 8-)
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Re: White HS sprinters trivia

Postby CookyMonzta » Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:12 am

CookyMonzta wrote:Speaking of runners named Casey, whatever happened to Casey Custer (11.38/23.70), who went to high school in Texas, then went to Florida State?

Long time since I posted anything on this thread. And since then, Jenna Prandini ran 11.34 in 2010, and there have been rumblings about a girl named Hannah Cunliffe, who ran 11.71 in 2010 and 11.92 this year.

What school is Jenna going to? It might make a difference between running 11.1x or faster, or staying in the 11.3-11.5 range by the time she graduates.
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Re: White HS sprinters trivia

Postby dukehjsteve » Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:27 pm

Here's good white sprinter trivia for you... someone tell us who John Mostyn is.
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Re: White HS sprinters trivia

Postby dj » Mon Nov 07, 2011 4:42 pm

dukehjsteve wrote:Here's good white sprinter trivia for you... someone tell us who John Mostyn is.


1959, wind-legal 9.3 in a high school dual meet for Bergen Catholic. A day later they realized the distance was 95 yards.
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Re: White HS sprinters trivia

Postby dukehjsteve » Mon Nov 07, 2011 6:04 pm

dj wrote:
dukehjsteve wrote:Here's good white sprinter trivia for you... someone tell us who John Mostyn is.


1959, wind-legal 9.3 in a high school dual meet for Bergen Catholic. A day later they realized the distance was 95 yards.


Very, very good dj, but my memory says it was a bigger meet.... Englewood Invitational. And it sure got ballyhooed for a day in the newspapers !
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Re: White HS sprinters trivia

Postby dj » Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:10 pm

Yeah, you're right about it not being a dual meet. I think I'm confusing this with another Jersey sprinter with a screwy time. Jerry Krumeich? No doubt I'll wake up at 3 in the morning with the answer.
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Re: White HS sprinters trivia

Postby PDJ551 » Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:38 am

It was in fact The Englewood Memorial Meet. This meet was one of the biggest on the East Coast until the early 1960s. It was scheduled a couple of weeks before most state meets and participants from Boston to Washington D.C. would converge at Englewood, N.J.which is about 6 miles from NYC.

In those days lines on dirt tracks were lime. At the starting area, deep in the shute (remember those?) were a number of starting lines for the various events. Apparently the starter or clerk brought the kids to the wrong line. When the race finished and everyone looked at their watches and exchanged their findings with those around them the crowd went nuts. Of course no one could remember which line was used. Mostyn pulled very shortly afterwards, ending his senior season. I believe he entered a seminary shortly afterwards, never running again. Every once in a while The Record, the area's newspaper revisits the story. Mostyn was a fine sprinter, but a 9.3 was a bit quick, even for him.
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Re: White HS sprinters trivia

Postby dj » Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:10 am

PDJ551 wrote: Mostyn was a fine sprinter, but a 9.3 was a bit quick, even for him.


If I'm remembering the story correctly, the entire field broke 10.0.

The odd thing I've never understood was why the there would have been a starting line drawn at 95 yards. Was it mismeasured? That's less common than a starter using the wrong line. But the only markings likely to have appeared at that point on the track would have been the marks for the second flight of the 120y high hurdles.

I don't recall hurdle marks being laid down as a solid line across the track.
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Re: White HS sprinters trivia

Postby gh » Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:11 am

Not the only 95-yard race I've ever heard of.

Gotta remember that this was in the days when the (dirt) track had to be lined before every meet, and it certainly wasn't done by a surveyor. Heck, in many cases, probably done by the third assistant football coach, who read the markings on the curb and ran the hopper across the track. Can easily see a solid line going at a hurdle placing. After that he says, "oops; doesn't make any difference" and leaves it as such.
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Re: White HS sprinters trivia

Postby PDJ551 » Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:15 am

I never thought about the line at 95 yds. I do remember my father who was officiating at the meet saying that there were countless lines at the start. He took a look at the end of the meet, as he was handling the high jump that day. Mostyn had in fact broke 10 seconds in the 100 yd dash before that meet.

Getting slightly off the subject about markings on dirt tracks. On the same track, a little more than a decade later, the staggers in the two outside lanes were drastically off. I realized it early in the meet when I noticed the first two legs in the novice 880 relay in the outside legs running ridiculously fast 220s. In the finals of the 440 the two kids in the outside lanes both broke 50 seconds for the first time. In fact neither had broken 52 at that point. They were ecstatic. As a young assistant coach of the host track I held my tongue. As the season continued both runners went back to running 52 seconds. I spoke to one of the athletes the next week. His attitude was that he had done it once and he was determined to show that it wasn't a fluke. He ended up completing the season running 50 point. The next year he ran in the low 49s and maybe in the 48s. The other runner, a senior, got more frustrated as the season went on. He ended up running 53. The next year I told the first runner what had really happened. He ended up having a good laugh. I never did search out the second runner.

What I did learn was the importance of psychology in coaching and how different people perceive things. It was a great lesson for a young coach.
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Re: White HS sprinters trivia

Postby rickstephenson » Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:13 pm

Jacksf wrote:Does anybody know anything about Wayne Johnson?

I believe he won the Texas State 5A 100 and 200 meter races in 1978.
I know he ran a 9.3 100y and 20.78 200m in high school. Obviously he had a lot of potential, but I'm not sure that he ever went to college, or even raced again.
Wayne went to the University of Texas and was scheduled to run in the 1980 Olympics with Johnny Lamb Jones but received a knee injury returning a kick off return for the Texas Long Horns.Johnny Lamb Jones won a gold metal in the 440 relay in the Olympics. Wayne beet all of Johnny Lamb Jones' es records in High School. They both attended the University of Texas.Johnny Lamb Jones was 1 or 2 years to Wayne Johnson's senior at Texas University in Austin.
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Re: White HS sprinters trivia

Postby dukehjsteve » Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:20 pm

I'm a local so I should know, but I don't:

What's the Track status of Nick Stoner, who won last spring's Indiana HS 100 and 200( anchored winning 1600 R too) bringing Center Grove HS to a state title along with Austin Mudd's 800/1600 double ( Mudd ran 1600 R too).

I know he went to IU on a football scholarship and played football this fall for IU.

2 questions....

How did he do in football ? Think he was slated as a defensive halfback.

What's the status of a continuing running career ?
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Re: White HS sprinters trivia

Postby tandfman » Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:29 pm

dukehjsteve wrote:How did he do in football ? Think he was slated as a defensive halfback.

He started out as a cornerback but then switched to wide receiver.

http://iuhoosiers.cstv.com/sports/m-foo ... ick00.html

He's not on their current track roster.
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Re: White HS sprinters trivia

Postby gh » Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:59 pm

rickstephenson wrote:
Jacksf wrote:Does anybody know anything about Wayne Johnson?

I believe he won the Texas State 5A 100 and 200 meter races in 1978.
I know he ran a 9.3 100y and 20.78 200m in high school. Obviously he had a lot of potential, but I'm not sure that he ever went to college, or even raced again.
Wayne went to the University of Texas and was scheduled to run in the 1980 Olympics with Johnny Lamb Jones....


Let's clear up some mythology here. Johnson ran 9.3w and 20.6w, both hand timing.

He ran an altitude-aided 10.42 in '82.

Jones ran in the '76 Olympics (when Johnson was still a 16-year-old soph), so neither of them was "scheduled" to run in the '80 Olympics.
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Re: White HS sprinters trivia

Postby preston » Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:31 pm

dj, gh...midshipman, Clay Stackhouse ('90) was at/near 9.3 or 9.4 as a high school athlete, iirc. I have to imagine that if not for his Naval Academy/Heptagonal affiliation that he may have run faster (he also played football). 10.43 PB
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Re: White HS sprinters trivia

Postby gh » Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:06 pm

Doesn't ring right, if for no other reason than that "nobody" was running 100y races by the mid-'80s. He doesn't show on the '86 HS 100m list,which goes all the way to 10.61. (and 10.2 hand/windy).

Can't speak to the 10.43; best that Tilastopaja lists is a 10.49 at the '90 Penn Relays.
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Re: White HS sprinters trivia

Postby tandfman » Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:07 pm

gh wrote:Doesn't ring right, if for no other reason than that "nobody" was running 100y races by the mid-'80s. He doesn't show on the '86 HS 100m list,which goes all the way to 10.61. (and 10.2 hand/windy).

Can't speak to the 10.43; best that Tilastopaja lists is a 10.49 at the '90 Penn Relays.

That's the ONLY mark they list for him. I really don't regard Tila as a source of complete info before the late '90's. He could conceivably have run a 10.43 at a dual meet that Tila never put in their data base when they were going back to the pre-Tila era. Unfortunately, the FAST annuals for those years don't go below 10.40 in the 100. So this is not an easy thing to check.

Like you, I am very skeptical of the 9.3-9.4 claim. Just doesn't ring true.
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Re: White HS sprinters trivia

Postby preston » Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:45 am

gh wrote:Doesn't ring right, if for no other reason than that "nobody" was running 100y races by the mid-'80s. He doesn't show on the '86 HS 100m list,which goes all the way to 10.61. (and 10.2 hand/windy).

Can't speak to the 10.43; best that Tilastopaja lists is a 10.49 at the '90 Penn Relays.

Not exactly! Florida still ran yards even at the state meet, iirc. 1984 - Arthur Blake's "record breaking" performances were 120y and 330h; 1985 Michael Timpson (below). Clay Stackhouse graduated high school in 1986.

According to the Naval Academy website

http://www.navysports.com/sports/m-trac ... cords.html
1 Brian Proctor 10.41 5/10/1992
2 Clay Stackhouse 10.43 4/14/1990
3 Michael Jefferson 10.44 (c) 4/16/1994
Brian Proctor 10.44 (c) 4/3/1993
Clay Stackhouse 10.44 (c) 3/31/1990
Brian Proctor 10.44 4/18/1992
7 Clay Stackhouse 10.45 4/14/1990
8 Michael Jefferson 10.47 5/7/1994
9 Clay Stackhouse 10.48 4/7/1990
John McLaughlin 10.48 5/7/1983



here is an article from '85 Florida State Meet

Timpson Runs Into Aaaa Spotlight At Showalter

By Bill Buchalter of The Sentinel Staff, May 7, 1985

They finally found a way to slow down Michael Timpson.Timpson, who sprints, hurdles and jumps for Hialeah Miami-Lakes High School, had to slow down during Graduation Night at Walt Disney World last Saturday.On Friday night Timpson had jumped 24 feet 9 1/4, sprinted 21 seconds in the 220, and ran the 120-yard highs and 330-yard intermediate hurldes in 13.3 and 37.2. All four were top qualifying performances into this Saturday's Class AAAA Florida track championships at Showalter Field in Winter Park.
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Re: Wayne Johnson

Postby rickstephenson » Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:07 pm

harvtrack wrote:100m
1. Wayne Johnson '78 TX 5A HS Champ
2. Casey Combest '98 KY HS Champ
3. Matt Bruno '02 CA HS Champ
4. Jason Leach '84 TX 5A 2nd place
5. Trey Griffin '01 TX 4A HS Champ


Of these guys the only one that had any success after high school was Jason Leach.

Yes, but Griifin gets another shot at fame...after playing football at SMU he is in grad school at Texas and has a year of eligibility left (is listed on the horns roster)
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