Sheryl Swoopes reveals she is gay


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Sheryl Swoopes reveals she is gay

Postby trackstar » Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:08 pm

So why did I post this to the track board instead of the "things not t&f" board -- because WNBA fans are about to get the kind of treatment in tomorrow's sports pages that we are used to in T&F. The WNBA is usually confined to a few paragraphs in the back pages, but I guarantee that THIS will land on p.1, especially in the Texas papers. I feel for them -- we know what it's like have our competitions ignored but our "scandals" (does admitting homosexuality even rise to the level of scandal anymore?) get lengthy coverage.
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Re: Sheryl Swoopes reveals she is gay

Postby tlb747 » Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:25 pm

Scandal or not, people will go to the games (WNBA) and watch her and others play.
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So What?

Postby guru » Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:27 pm

Homosexuality ceased being "scandalous" 10-15 years ago, so I'm not sure who really cares. Nonetheless, you posted, so here's a link:


http://tinyurl.com/djbrb


YAWN!
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Postby SQUACKEE » Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:33 pm

i am one person who does care! i love lesbians. my wife's best friend is gay. :wink:
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Postby tafnut » Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:01 pm

The homophobes will use this as an excuse to say that they already 'knew' that 'most' female pro athletes are.
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Postby MCFLY » Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:03 pm

"Scandal" is an inaccurate descriptor for Sheryl Swoopes's actions.

The term "scandal" implies disgraceful or immoral behavior. Having just read Swoopes's articulate and courageous testimony in ESPN magainze, I think the phrase "victory for humanity" is more appropriate.

This refreshing story merits front page headlines because it deals with issues more important than mere athletic competitions.

Your comparison is invalid.
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Postby bad hammy » Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:12 pm

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ . . .

Wake me up when there is a real story here.
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Postby MCFLY » Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:56 pm

bad hammy wrote:ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ . . .

Wake me up when there is a real story here.


I don't quite follow the intended implication...
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Postby Daisy » Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:06 pm

MCFLY wrote:
bad hammy wrote:ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ . . .
Wake me up when there is a real story here.

I don't quite follow the intended implication...


He's saying its not really going to change a thing, so it's not really a big story. Now if she had a marriage license.
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Postby gh » Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:11 pm

It's pretty huge story in my mind's eye. Major sports figures announcing their gayness--particularly when they're still active stars--is exceedingly rare. Admitted gayness in the Afro community is even rarer.
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Postby MCFLY » Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:42 pm

true, there is still a long ways to go. but this is certainly a step in the right direction. i mean, just the fact that Swoopes sparked a discussion on the University of Tennesse's women's basketball message board with people of different opinions going back and forth is a step in the right direction.
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Postby bad hammy » Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:48 pm

MCFLY wrote:
bad hammy wrote:ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ . . .

Wake me up when there is a real story here.


I don't quite follow the intended implication...

The implication was intended to be ‘person is gay, BFD’.

OK, this person is an athlete and an athlete out of the closet is rare. No one should care. They should be able to play the game and go home, just like anyone else.
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Postby gh » Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:12 pm

Of course they should, but until (many) more do it, they'll treated differenlty.
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Postby guru » Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:16 pm

gh wrote:Of course they should, but until (many) more do it, they'll treated differenlty.



They might be treated differently by the people who have to share a shower with them(understandable), but the public in general in 2005 couldn't care less.
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Postby tafnut » Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:35 pm

In my (limited) experience with this issue, people get too hung up on the 'sex' part of homosexuality. No one but perverts want to know anything about a stranger's sex life, hetero- or homo-, so why should we even be interested in what (and who) they do in the bedroom? My sexuality doesn't ever come up in classroom (ewwww!), i.e., place of work, so why would a gay person's? My teaching, i.e., professional connectivity to others, has NOTHING to do with my love life. It really IS a non-issue (not that some people don't try to make it one!).
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Postby SQUACKEE » Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:28 am

>My sexuality doesn't ever come up in classroom (ewwww!), <

geesh i hope not. but anyway, everyone knows teachers DONT have sex, although they may teach a class on it. im pretty sure dr. ruth never had sex but it didnt stop her from being an expert on the subject. just one more ewwwwwwwwww :oops: :x :shock: :P :wink: :roll: :twisted:
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Postby No Name » Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:10 am

The entire Sheryl Swoopes situation is a non-issue. So there are lesbians in the WNBA - no surprise there, just as there are probably gay athletes in all sports.

Additionally, Sheryl Swoopes is not any sort of transcendent superstar, given the fact that few care about the WNBA. This will be quickly forgotten, as well it should be.
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Postby chriswitt » Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:37 am

well this could either help or kill the WNBA i can see a lot of mother reading the part bout "i was not born this way" and saying my daugther not playing no team sport she could be "converted" or the rainbow money could transform the WNBA.
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Postby Daisy » Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:46 am

chriswitt wrote:or the rainbow money could transform the WNBA.


I can't see that happening. Why would they sponsor basketball and effectively reinforce the stereotype that athletic women are gay? There are many more important political issues that need to be addressed first.
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Postby KevinM » Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:41 am

chriswitt wrote:well this could either help or kill the WNBA


To say that the WNBA could be killed implies that it has life. The WNBA is and has always been dependant on NBA life support.
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Postby No Name » Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:44 am

KevinM wrote:
chriswitt wrote:well this could either help or kill the WNBA


To say that the WNBA could be killed implies that it has life. The WNBA is and has always been dependant on NBA life support.



Quite true. The most amusing thing was when the WNBA players threatened to strike a couple years ago, only to realize that they have no leverage whatsoever.
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Postby az2004 » Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:21 am

sexual preference really isn't news, although some politicos do use the scare tactic to get elected...

bit surprised, no fisher deberry comments posted...
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Postby SQUACKEE » Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:35 am

now sulu from star trek has come out. i guess he didnt get our message. WE DONT CARE :!: it does give new meaning to capt kirk asking sulu, " all ahead full"
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Postby gh » Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:17 pm

Columnist says Swoopes might not be big news, but it certainly will be when the first big-time male pro comes out

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f ... 006&sc=294
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Postby tlb747 » Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:11 pm

gh wrote:Columnist says Swoopes might not be big news, but it certainly will be when the first big-time male pro comes out


And I wonder who could that be. :?
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Postby kuha » Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:15 pm

I agree with bad hammy. This is a big snooze and a non-story as far as I can tell. To quote the great philsopher Mr. T, I pity the fool who wastes any emotional energy on this at all.
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Postby tlb747 » Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:25 pm

kuha wrote:I agree with bad hammy. This is a big snooze and a non-story as far as I can tell. To quote the great philsopher Mr. T, I pity the fool who wastes any emotional energy on this at all.


Me too!
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Postby bad hammy » Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:26 pm

kuha wrote:I agree with bad hammy.

I love it when that happens. Signs of intelligent life in the universe and all.

As for this second story, the writer has a point: as far as there being a BIG story nationwide, it will take a Michael Jordan or Barry Bonds or Peyton Manning, Tim Duncan or Michael Vick or Roger Clemens. (Which does not make it any more of our business, but it will certainly keep the media talking for a long time.)

Edit: A little research indicates that there is a name confusion on someone in local sports I indicated was out and gay. My mistake, a very common one (in my defense) as the research indicated. Same name, same sport, kind of look the same. The local guy is (presumably) straight and a relative big wig. The other guy – the one who is gay - is out of the sport. I brought it up to indicate that gay folks could blend into the pro athletic scene (this is the SF Bay Area, after all). The local guy must have a great time hearing this stuff from idiots like me.

So much for that intelligent life thing . . .
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