iPod Lite-The Dylan years


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iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby wineturtle » Mon Dec 06, 2004 6:08 pm

Hope some of you got to see the Dylan interview.
I grew up in NYC and the Saloon Biz so I had a chance to view The Village from behind the bar during the 'Early Years" . I never liked his voice so he was a blip on my screen then if at all. Now 40 years later he is ranked with the great ones of music. He has been covered by a group of artists that are not to shabby themselves.......Hendrix,Stewart,The Byrds,Wonder,The Band,Manfred Mann(The Mighty Quinn,anyone hear Dylan do it?)Presley Bryan Ferry....Oh yea The Turtles (It Ain't Me Babe). So turn your Transister Radio on and Down Load your Dylan Picks. Please Mr. Boardman let us play for a day or so!
Edit for Props: on 24 Feb 2004 MJD started this thread!!!!PBS tonight
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby gh » Mon Dec 06, 2004 8:46 pm

When you say Dylan I'm so unhip I think you mean Dylan Thomas, whoever he was.
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby Bob Duncan » Mon Dec 06, 2004 9:56 pm

>Hope some of you got to see the Dylan interview.
Yeah, I caught most of it. He looked pretty wizened and struck me as somewhat cynical and bitter in the interview. I'm not sure that time has been kind to him but he's lucky to be alive after that heart thing a while back.

I still like his early work the best, up through the early 70's. Back in high school in the 60's, we used to go around quoting Dylan like scripture. It would have been great to have seen him during his Highway 61 period. The first time that I saw him perform was around 1974 when he was touring with The Band.

Rolling Stone magazine recently proclaimed "Like A Rolling Stone" to be the #1 song of all time in their list of top 500 songs. A great song, but I wouldn't put it quite that high. Then again, the man is arguably the greatest American songwriter or at least right up there with Hank Williams and Brian Wilson (who isn't really a lyricist).
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby det » Mon Dec 06, 2004 10:00 pm

Gee I was hoping to hear about Canadian thrower Dylan Armstrong...or has the Canadian Olympic Committee already eliminated him from future competition?

it ain't me babe
no no no
it ain't me not reaching the "A"
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby Daisy » Mon Dec 06, 2004 10:19 pm

>When you say Dylan I'm so unhip I think you mean Dylan Thomas, whoever he was.

This has Llareggub to do with track and field.

Dylan Thomas is unhip? You can still get drunk in the White Horse in Manhatten, the place of his demise. And they boast of that fact.
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby wineturtle » Tue Dec 07, 2004 1:59 pm

Dylan Thomas is
>unhip? You can still get drunk in the White Horse in Manhatten, the place of
>his demise. And they boast of that fact.

Daisy,Trust me it was the food at the Tavern not the brown whiskey:-)
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby gh » Tue Dec 07, 2004 4:57 pm

Clearly nobody is hip to "A Simple Desultory Philippic" by Simon & Garfunkel:

<< been Norman Mailered, Maxwell Taylored.
I been John O'Hara'd, McNamara'd.
I been Rolling Stoned and Beatled till I'm blind.
I been Ayn Randed, nearly branded
Communist, 'cause I'm left-handed.
That's the hand I use, well, never mind!

I been Phil Spectored, resurrected.
I been Lou Adlered, Barry Sadlered.
Well, I paid all the dues I want to pay.
And I learned the truth from Lenny Bruce,
And all my wealth won't buy me health,
So I smoke a pint of tea a day.

I knew a man, his brain was so small,
He couldn't think of nothing at all.
He's not the same as you and me.
He doesn't dig poetry. He's so unhip that
When you say Dylan, he thinks you're talking about Dylan Thomas,
Whoever he was.
The man ain't got no culture,
But it's alright, ma,
Everybody must get stoned.

I been Mick Jaggered, silver daggered.
Andy Warhol, won't you please come home?
I been mothered, fathered, aunt and uncled,
Been Roy Haleed and Art Garfunkeled.
I just discovered somebody's tapped my phone>>
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby wineturtle » Wed Dec 08, 2004 4:27 am

>Clearly nobody is hip to "A Simple Desultory Philippic" by Simon &
>Garfunkle
I been Barry Sadlered.
He's so unhip that
When you say Dylan, he thinks you're talking
>about Dylan Thomas,
Whoever he was.
The turtle man ain't got no culture,
But it's
>alright, ma,
Everybody must get stoned.
Thyme out,its the tea, never saw the words, hell don't know the song.
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby malmo » Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:55 am

>When you say Dylan I'm so unhip I think you mean Dylan Thomas, whoever he was.

When I think of Dylan, I think of the trying-to-hard-to-be-hip-eurotrash NYC hotel that dinged me for $450 the night of the 2003 blackout -- more than double the rate for its regular corporate customers.

Needless to say, they lost the account.
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby Daisy » Wed Dec 08, 2004 10:40 am

>Clearly nobody is hip to "A Simple Desultory Philippic" by Simon & Garfunkel:

Clearly ;)

I need to pay more attention to the lyrics.
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby gh » Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:53 pm

OK, finally saw the interview. The man is one definite bizarre personality. The Beautous Babs is convinced it was a little too much rainy day women, but whatever...
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby mike renfro » Thu Dec 09, 2004 10:12 pm

I didn't see Dylan live until waaaaay late. Shoreline in the '90s. I had heard of him in the mid '60s when I was in the Army in Germany. Radio Luxembourg didn't play him, all Stones and the other early Brit bands. When I got back to the US, I got his albums and became a convert. I had tickets for a show in Spokane, but the equipment bus/truck broke down and the show was cancelled. Took the edge of the date.

I think "Blonde on Blonde" was his apex. He had some good songs after that, but mostly not great albums. His "Christ" period mostly sucked. His last couple of albums have been good. And there are the bootlegs, official and unofficial. Good stuff there.
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby gh » Thu Dec 09, 2004 10:15 pm

Speakiing of Shoreline (sorry for the gratouitous Bay Area reference), only time I ever saw Dylan live was there in August of '86, just before heading to Stuttgart for the Euros.

He sucked huge time! But the then-obscure (relatively speaking) opening act of Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers gave me a whole new line of fandom. Just like a refugee, eh?
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby wineturtle » Thu Dec 09, 2004 10:57 pm

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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby MJD » Fri Dec 10, 2004 2:46 am

>Speakiing of Shoreline (sorry for the gratouitous Bay Area reference), only
>time I ever saw Dylan live was there in August of '86, just before heading to
>Stuttgart for the Euros.

He sucked huge time! But the then-obscure
>(relatively speaking) opening act of Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers gave me a
>whole new line of fandom. Just like a refugee, eh?

He was far from obscure in 1986 if you were paying attention:-). As a matter of fact, you could argue he was almost old news by then.
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby malmo » Fri Dec 10, 2004 7:26 am

>Speakiing of Shoreline (sorry for the gratouitous Bay Area reference), only
>time I ever saw Dylan live was there in August of '86, just before heading to
>Stuttgart for the Euros.

He sucked huge time! But the then-obscure
>(relatively speaking) opening act of Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers gave me a
>whole new line of fandom. Just like a refugee, eh?


Like, brah, sucked huge time? Yo! Wud up? I saw the 86 tour. Like Dylan was totally whack! Garry dude, like those leather pants with those gold studs down the side - the real shit, man. Like Dylan was workin out! The shit! Like, wicked brah!
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby MJD » Sun Dec 12, 2004 12:44 pm

>
Dylan Thomas is
>unhip?

The answer to that, my friend, is blowin' in the wind.
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby tafnut » Sun Dec 12, 2004 1:56 pm

>>Dylan Thomas is>unhip?<<
>The answer to that, my friend, is blowin' in
>the wind.<

Actually we should rage, rage against the dying of the hip.
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby Daisy » Sun Dec 12, 2004 2:43 pm

>> Dylan Thomas is unhip?

> The answer to that, my friend, is blowin' in the wind.

i suppose the times are changin.

Wasn't the Zimmerman to Dylan change inspired by Thomas?
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby wineturtle » Sun Dec 12, 2004 4:09 pm

>>> Dylan Thomas is unhip?

> The answer to that, my friend, is blowin' in
>the wind.

i suppose the times are changin.

Wasn't the Zimmerman to Dylan
>change inspired by Thomas?

Yes
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby MJD » Mon Dec 13, 2004 10:30 am

>i suppose the times are changin.

A hurricane can do that.
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby mike renfro » Wed Dec 15, 2004 9:34 pm

The other Dylan (Thomas) did have a way with words. I saw a staging of Under Milkwood a few years ago. Wonderful language. Too bad about the liver.
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby Bruce Kritzler » Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:29 pm

Just wanted to comment that Dylan has certainly mellowed over the years. He was truely humble (and awed) about his own songwriting ability (It just came to him!). Seems as if he has aged well. The younger Dylan, if giving an interview at all, would have thrown out a few obtuse answers (or questions).
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby 79. » Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:21 pm

Does ayone know Dylan's song "Is your love in
vain?"...
A really beautiful song!
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby gh » Wed Dec 22, 2004 9:00 pm

When I hear "Love in Vain" I think of the Stones (off "Let It Bleed," 1969)
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby Grazerism » Sun Dec 26, 2004 2:36 pm

I was at the Bangladesh concert at Madison Square Garden in 1971. It was a big deal, with George Harrison, Ringo Starr, Eric Clapton, Ravi Shankar and many others. Then Dylan showed up as a surprise guest. This was the period when he was basically in hiding, so his appearance was a huge shock. The Garden suddenly felt like a tiny club, and we were all privileged initiates. Dylan, Harrison and Leon Russell trioing on "Just Like a Woman" (with Ringo on tambourine) was just beautiful.

Yeah, I didn't like his voice at first, loved some of his songs (Peter Paul and Mary's "Don't Think Twice"). Agree that BRINGING IT ALL BACK HOME, HIGHWAY 61, and BLONDE ON BLONDE are still the best, but if you're an old fan out of touch with his music, definitely check out OH MERCY, TIME OUT OF MIND, and LOVE AND THEFT.
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby wineturtle » Sat Apr 23, 2005 11:02 pm

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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby gh » Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:18 pm

For all you Dylanophiles, two excellent articles relative to Greil Marcus's new Dylan book.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f ... CBI801.DTL

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f ... CC3DM1.DTL
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby bambam » Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:49 am

Garry, I believe I read that yesterday. My wife read it to me. She opened up a book of poems, and handed it to me. It was written by an Italian poet from the 13th century.
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby bambam » Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:51 am

"Tom Petty. Now that's a really good looking man." What obscure character on a really underappreciated sitcom said that?
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby MJD » Sat May 07, 2005 4:56 am

Jakob Dylan and The Wallflowers were on The Today Show this morning. When Jakob was asked if he ever talked to his dad about writing lyrics and whether they should reflect the times, he said tersely:

"No."

Probably gets a little tired of questions about his dad-even though he has the look and the voice.
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby gh » Sun May 15, 2005 9:09 pm

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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby bambam » Mon May 16, 2005 7:21 pm

Who is the most famous athlete from Hibbing? Not track & field.
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby bambam » Mon May 16, 2005 7:23 pm

>"Tom Petty. Now that's a really good looking man." What obscure character
>on a really underappreciated sitcom said that?

Well, nobody even tried this. Lowell, the handyman on Wings.
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby twittering debutante » Mon May 16, 2005 8:41 pm

Kevin McHale.

Camped out overnight on concrete for the Dylan/The Band tour in 1974, but was stood up at the last minute and never got to go.

Thank you Kathy Foster, aka big bimbo.
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby gh » Tue May 17, 2005 5:54 am

>>"Tom Petty. Now that's a really good looking man." What obscure
>character
>on a really underappreciated sitcom said that?

Well, nobody even
>tried this. Lowell, the handyman on Wings.>>

And Lowell has gone on to far greater fame as....?
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby MJD » Tue May 17, 2005 6:34 am

Guy in Sideways?
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby marknhj » Tue May 17, 2005 7:56 am

I spent Sunday afternoon at a Bob Dylan Birthday Bash in a beer garden in El Segundo. It was brilliant, mainly local bands but also a performance by a group billed as the "World's only Dylan tribute band". They're on tour and you can see the schedule, hear some tracks, etc. at:

www.highway61revisited.com

If they're in your neighbourhood I'd highly recommend seeing them.
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby sluhtaf » Tue May 17, 2005 4:03 pm

QUestion: Who do you think was the true "Bard of Hibbing": Dylan (my choice) or Kevin McHale (nickname)?
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Re: iPod Lite-The Dylan years

Postby wineturtle » Sat May 28, 2005 9:37 am

getting all the pods in a row.
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