Happy 4th! Political leanings of track people...


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Re: Happy 4th! Political leanings of track people...

Postby dbirds » Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:04 pm

You mean the one that says we are 20 billions years old?
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Re: Happy 4th! Political leanings of track people...

Postby Daisy » Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:21 pm

dbirds wrote:You mean the one that says we are 20 billions years old?

We? Or the universe? The current estimate is 14 billion years for the universe.
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Re: Happy 4th! Political leanings of track people...

Postby Pego » Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:26 pm

Daisy wrote:
dbirds wrote:You mean the one that says we are 20 billions years old?

We? Or the universe? The current estimate is 14 billion years for the universe.


...and the Earth 4.5 billion.
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Re: Happy 4th! Political leanings of track people...

Postby Daisy » Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:28 pm

Pego wrote:
Daisy wrote:
dbirds wrote:You mean the one that says we are 20 billions years old?

We? Or the universe? The current estimate is 14 billion years for the universe.


...and the Earth 4.5 billion.
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Re: Happy 4th! Political leanings of track people...

Postby dbirds » Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:12 pm

Those numbers are all bogus!
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Re: Happy 4th! Political leanings of track people...

Postby Daisy » Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:35 pm

dbirds wrote:Those numbers are all bogus!

Estimates based on the evidence currently available. They may well be revised as more information is collected, but they are not bogus.
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Re: Happy 4th! Political leanings of track people...

Postby CookyMonzta » Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:57 pm

Daisy wrote:
dbirds wrote:Those numbers are all bogus!

Estimates based on the evidence currently available. They may well be revised as more information is collected, but they are not bogus.

The estimate is variable, but not by a very large degree. At the Hayden Planetarium (where Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson is director), the estimate age of the universe is 13 billion years. When Dr. Carl Sagan presented Cosmos (1980), the estimate was 15 billion. As for the earth, I've heard and read estimates of anywhere between 4.3 billion and 4.8 billion, with the Moon perhaps 500 million years younger, some of its material having come from the Earth after an object the size of Mercury or Mars (or somewhere in between) smashing into it.
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Re: Happy 4th! Political leanings of track people...

Postby Marlow » Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:22 pm

'Flat-earthers' always amaze me . . . :shock:
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Re: Happy 4th! Political leanings of track people...

Postby Cooter Brown » Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:48 pm

aaronk wrote:If most T&F people are Dems....and if Dems are brilliant, astute, and creative, etc etc......then WTF isn't our sport number ONE in this country??


The average person is borderline functionally retarded.
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Re: Happy 4th! Political leanings of track people...

Postby KDFINE » Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:42 pm

TN1965's explanation seems right on target, especially the global view.
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Re: Happy 4th! Political leanings of track people...

Postby dbirds » Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:04 am

They can't find any fossils to corroborate these dates. Bunch of crazy guesses. A lot of scientists think they are a lot smarter than they really are
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Re: Happy 4th! Political leanings of track people...

Postby Marlow » Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:06 am

Cooter Brown wrote:The average person is borderline functionally retarded.

Actually, psychological studies have concluded that the average person, at 100 IQ, is surprising adept at succeeding in life and people with IQs (admittedly, an obsolete term) of 85 fully blend in with 'normal' society.
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Re: Happy 4th! Political leanings of track people...

Postby Pego » Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:16 am

dbirds wrote:They can't find any fossils to corroborate these dates. Bunch of crazy guesses. A lot of scientists think they are a lot smarter than they really are


This is so absurd, there is no reasonable response. Do you realize that the geological strata establishing ages at different levels started with Hutton still in the 18th century, long before Darwin, long before Lyell, long before isotope dating?
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Re: Happy 4th! Political leanings of track people...

Postby BillVol » Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:34 am

gh wrote:
BillVol wrote:Someone on here said that most track people are Democrats. Why is that?


Of course the fact that "somebody said it" doesn't necessarily make it true.


Of course not. I should have written instead, "Why do you suppose this person believes this?" Or something like that.
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