Why Do So Many Athletes Thank God.....


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Re: Why Do So Many Athletes Thank God.....

Postby BisonHurdler » Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:12 pm

Pelpa wrote:Many athletes thank God because many athletes are Christian believers.


Do they also blame him for their downfalls? And if so, why not?
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Re: Why Do So Many Athletes Thank God.....

Postby TrakFan » Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:14 pm

BisonHurdler wrote:This post is so bizarrely non sequitur and intentionally disingenuous that it doesn't merit a direct response.


Sure. However, similar intolerant statements such as the one you made towards those who express their religious beliefs are routinely uttered by individuals when discussing other topics.
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Re: Why Do So Many Athletes Thank God.....

Postby Vault-emort » Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:22 pm

I just find it a cliche these days - as if their agent has told them 'remember to thank your sponsors and God'..

I find it like beauty queens wishing for 'world peace' - yawn..
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Re: Why Do So Many Athletes Thank God.....

Postby BisonHurdler » Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:25 pm

TrakFan wrote:
BisonHurdler wrote:This post is so bizarrely non sequitur and intentionally disingenuous that it doesn't merit a direct response.


Sure. However, similar intolerant statements such as the one you made towards those who express their religious beliefs are routinely uttered by individuals when discussing other topics.


Whoa whoa whoa whoa. Slow down here, no one is saying they are against religious people having the right to speak out about their religion. If that is how you've misconstrued this conversation, you need to go back and really read this thread.

People are talking about how athletes (and people in general) are always so quick to give praise to their God for their own accomplishments, yet look the other way and rationalize negative experiences as "oh, well God probably meant to do that to me too."

The ironic part about your previous post is that with regard to the views you mentioned about race/sex/sexuality, all have "improved" following education and cultural enlightenment (for lack of a better term) . . . and this education and cultural enlightenment is exactly what is leading young people to realize that religion is indeed much more likely to be a construct of man rather than a collection of dictums handed down from some divine being.

In other words, it seems the point of your post was to say "you people that are against religious freedom [which we have already established is not a correct characterization at all] will see, you'll eventually realize just how bigoted you sounded just like people in these examples!" . . . and yet, you were actually helping elucidate the notion that one day we will look back at our current religions and view them with the same amusement we currently apply to Roman and Greek mythology.
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Re: Why Do So Many Athletes Thank God.....

Postby Pelpa » Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:30 pm

BisonHurdler wrote:
Pelpa wrote:Many athletes thank God because many athletes are Christian believers.


Do they also blame him for their downfalls? And if so, why not?


No you accept the burden he gives you to bear..
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Re: Why Do So Many Athletes Thank God.....

Postby TrakFan » Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:06 pm

BisonHurdler wrote:In other words, it seems the point of your post was to say "you people that are against religious freedom [which we have already established is not a correct characterization at all] will see, you'll eventually realize just how bigoted you sounded just like people in these examples!" . . . and yet, you were actually helping elucidate the notion that one day we will look back at our current religions and view them with the same amusement we currently apply to Roman and Greek mythology.


The point I was making, and what others have validated in this this thread is that it's somewhat "okay" or accepted to make intolerant statements when discussing religion. I never mentioned or insinuated that anyone was against religious freedom. I simply hilighted intolerant statements. Can this acceptance of intolerant statements be attributed to the MULTITUDE of intolerant beliefs and statements that have been expressed by "religious" individuals over the years? Of course! It's still wrong... Thanking their God publicly is something that many Christians do, and I don't begrudge them for that. It's simply a way for them to express their feelings; and one poster (slowjo) felt comfortable saying she was "sick of it." Although it's free speech weekday, I don't think it would be as accepted for a well-known poster to say they were "sick of" homosexuals openly expressing their feelings by holding the hand of their significant other -- even if they're accepting of their sexuality.

Disclaimer: I'm confident slowjo has zero disdain towards the individuals who make those statements.
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Re: Why Do So Many Athletes Thank God.....

Postby Friar » Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:59 pm

you won't EVER understand why people thank God

Because it's strictly a one-way street. You can join a person in thanking God for the health of their baby. But you certainly can't (eg.) reproach God for the death of an infant. Why one not the other: it isn't a path toward rational living.

If you work for a good hospital you don't have personnel speaking in these terms with the patients. They understand that the only thing that matters in a medical atmosphere is science and humanity (plus some optimism). Leave God out of it.
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