Sarah Palin


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Postby Pego » Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:10 pm

gm wrote:Hey, you want to vote for incompetent boobs and senile fools, feel free. It's every American's right, and well over 110 million exercised that right last year. Sorry to stomp all over your messiah.


Would you care to tell us who your messiah was? I doubt it.
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Postby Brian » Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:28 pm

gm wrote:Hey, you want to vote for incompetent boobs and senile fools, feel free. It's every American's right, and well over 110 million exercised that right last year. Sorry to stomp all over your **messiah.**



Well, we now know gm's radio listening habits.

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But there is an actual cause/effect thing going on here: Compared to the guy in charge the past 8 years, Obama very well may seem like Jesus Christ to some people.

[And some would argue even Daffy Duck would seem so, too, in comparison.]
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Postby Conor Dary » Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:30 pm

lonewolf wrote:
jazzcyclist wrote:There is a regular poster on this board, who shall remain nameless, who actually said to me in a pm that Palin was more qualified to be President than Obama and John Kerry. :!: :shock:


I don't know who Jazzcyclist is referring to but I will up the ante. ANYONE on this board is more qualified to be President of the United States and would do less damage than Barach Hussein Obama.
There, I said it. No smiley.
Gee, that felt good :)


Yea, it really is a shame we don't have a President who will go to war just because he feels like it.
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Postby gm » Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:02 pm

Brian wrote:
gm wrote:Hey, you want to vote for incompetent boobs and senile fools, feel free. It's every American's right, and well over 110 million exercised that right last year. Sorry to stomp all over your **messiah.**



Well, we now know gm's radio listening habits.

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But there is an actual cause/effect thing going on here: Compared to the guy in charge the past 8 years, Obama very well may seem like Jesus Christ to some people.

[And some would argue even Daffy Duck would seem so, too, in comparison.]


My radio listening habits? I guess maybe in the peaceful music I tune in to there might be subliminal messages. I'll check next time.

And Pego, in my life there was and is only one Messiah, and He was not a politician.
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Postby jazzcyclist » Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:08 pm

gm wrote:Hey, you want to vote for incompetent boobs and senile fools, feel free. It's every American's right, and well over 110 million exercised that right last year. Sorry to stomp all over your messiah.

No one brought up anything about the Messiah. This thread is about Sarah Palin, and what I don't understand how anyone can defend John McCain's selection of her the way you have.
gm wrote:I dunno, Steve, the D's ran a senile old man as VP and an inexperienced boob in the top spot and it seemed to work out ok for them. Maybe the R's should have switched the order...

Furthermore, you actually believe that she was as prepared to be President as Obama, McCain and Biden. :roll: I would suggest in the future that if you're going to slam Obama and Biden, don't simultaneously defend Palin.
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Postby Pego » Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:29 pm

gm wrote:
Brian wrote:
gm wrote:Hey, you want to vote for incompetent boobs and senile fools, feel free. It's every American's right, and well over 110 million exercised that right last year. Sorry to stomp all over your **messiah.**



Well, we now know gm's radio listening habits.

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But there is an actual cause/effect thing going on here: Compared to the guy in charge the past 8 years, Obama very well may seem like Jesus Christ to some people.

[And some would argue even Daffy Duck would seem so, too, in comparison.]


My radio listening habits? I guess maybe in the peaceful music I tune in to there might be subliminal messages. I'll check next time.

And Pego, in my life there was and is only one Messiah, and He was not a politician.


Nice attempt to avoid the question. You used the term "messiah" for my voting preference. So, let's drop the word for now, whom did you vote for?
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Postby gm » Sat Jul 04, 2009 6:04 pm

Did a write-in for the fifth time in a row.

Neither "major" party does anything for me at all, no inspiration, just the same old crap wrapped in a different package.

I can't imagine wearing a shirt in public with ANY politician's name or picture on it. They are our employees, and for the most part they do a pretty lousy job.

But I still think we have the best worst system in the world.
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Postby Pego » Sat Jul 04, 2009 6:25 pm

gm wrote:Did a write-in for the fifth time in a row.

Neither "major" party does anything for me at all, no inspiration, just the same old crap wrapped in a different package.

I can't imagine wearing a shirt in public with ANY politician's name or picture on it. They are our employees, and for the most part they do a pretty lousy job.

But I still think we have the best worst system in the world.


Whom did you write in?
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Postby mrbowie » Sat Jul 04, 2009 6:28 pm

As a left-wing member of the Democratic party, I hope that the reason Palin quit was to prepare to run for the presidency in 2012, because that will be a sure way of continuing the progress our party had made of late. She is unquestionably the living example of a one-dimensional politician that will spout whatever she is told. She makes Ronnie Reagan look like a genuine intellectual. And that's saying something, because he was every bit the puppet that Howdy Doody was.
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Postby tandfman » Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:36 am

gh wrote:I know two generally apolitical women who hadn't registered to vote in 20-odd years and both did last year, both because they said, "I couldn't live with myself if that woman were elected to national office."

And I know an intelligent regular voter who swears she would have voted for McCain but for his choice of Palin as a running mate. To me, that just confirmed an obvious decision. There was no way I was going to vote for anyone representing the party that had given us W.
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Postby Flumpy » Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:37 am

lonewolf wrote: ANYONE on this board is more qualified to be President of the United States and would do less damage than Barach Hussein Obama.


Eldrick for President!!! :shock:
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Postby Pego » Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:53 pm

Pego wrote:
gm wrote:Did a write-in for the fifth time in a row.

Neither "major" party does anything for me at all, no inspiration, just the same old crap wrapped in a different package.

I can't imagine wearing a shirt in public with ANY politician's name or picture on it. They are our employees, and for the most part they do a pretty lousy job.

But I still think we have the best worst system in the world.


Whom did you write in?


Gm, the Free Speech weekend is coming to the end and you, as I thought, chose not to answer my question. I know, you'll read this, so a couple of comments.
You have made it a routine to criticize/attack the political establishment, especially the politicians you consider corrupt, "liberal" or immoral. Yet, you never offer any alternatives. Let this immigrant from a communist country offer you a civics lesson. Participatory democracy only works when people participate. Especially informed, intelligent, educated people as yourself. Writing in some "candidate", who has not got a prayer to be elected is not participation. Sometimes (commonly) we have to pick a lesser evil. I have held my nose voting numerous times.
Under communism, we had to go and vote, it was compulsive, you'd put your ass on line if you didn't. You had no choice. You went, dropped the official ballot in the box and left. Here, it is your privilege. The major reason for my immigration here was the First Ammendment. I have not missed an election (any, rinky dink local ones) in 33 years since gaining the citizenship.
Well, this is my free speech allowed be the mods this great weekend. I do appreciate it.
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Postby gm » Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:01 pm

Well, Pego, I respect the hell out of you for coming to this country for the reasons you stated. I completely disagree with you about the idea that voting for a "no-hoper" is not participation. That's the beauty of this country -- I can vote pretty much for whoever the hell I want, without fear that the authorities will come by the house and shoot me.

The wonderful First Amendment also allows me to tell you that it's really none of your damn business who I voted for.

I vote locally for the candidates who I think will best do the things we need on a local basis. They are pretty much non-partisan choices.

At the national level? LBJ was the last president who I think did what really needed to be done, and I was too young to vote back then. I liked Reagan and voted for him in my first two elections, which I am sure makes me a figure of ridicule to most here, but since then the top-tier candidates have been incredibly poor.

By the way, some of us work and travel this weekend, and weren't able to immediately answer message board pokes.
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Re: Sarah Palin

Postby Brian » Sun Jul 04, 2010 10:53 pm

Notice she hasn't said "Drill, baby, drill" much these days...!

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Re: Sarah Palin

Postby SQUACKEE » Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:35 am

Putting her politics aside, does anyone else find her presentation completely annoying, the squeaky voice, the you betcha. It may be shallow but IF i agreed with everything out of her mouth, which i dont, she is still "fingers on the chalkboard".
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Re: Sarah Palin

Postby kuha » Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:44 am

Her "appeal", on any level, completely eludes me.
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Re: Sarah Palin

Postby rasb » Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:14 am

I would like to spend 1 night with Sarah. But only if she kept her mouth closed.....
Wait, let me rephrase that ---- only if she didn't speak :)
We could just sit, and watch her view of Russia. I assume she lives at the top of a 500 story highrise, and has telescopic vision.
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Re: Sarah Palin

Postby rasb » Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:16 am

And I love to see any kind of debate on issues/policies/priorities of the USA, between Obama and anyone on this forum. Can I watch and listen, please?
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Re: Sarah Palin

Postby Daisy » Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:52 am

How much money has Palin made from speaking engagements? That alone would seem to be a good reason for her to continue in politics. She has an audience and they're happy to throw money at her for the performance.
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Re: Sarah Palin

Postby Flumpy » Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:06 am

SQUACKEE wrote:Putting her politics aside, does anyone else find her presentation completely annoying, the squeaky voice, the you betcha. It may be shallow but IF i agreed with everything out of her mouth, which i dont, she is still "fingers on the chalkboard".


During the Vice presidential debate she winked at the camera and gave a 'shout out' to some school children.

Any chance she had of me giving her the benefit of the doubt, ended right there and then.
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Re: Sarah Palin

Postby Marlow » Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:46 pm

As this forum is about to disappear for another year, I'd just like to say that if Sarah Palin is ever elected President, that will be the FINAL sign of the impending apocalypse, and I, for one, will welcome the end of the world. :twisted:
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Re: Sarah Palin

Postby Daisy » Mon Jul 05, 2010 1:08 pm

You're just saying that because you want an excuse to live "Apocalypse Now".
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Re: Sarah Palin

Postby jazzcyclist » Mon Jul 05, 2010 1:41 pm

There is a Saturday Night Live "Sarah Palin 2012" video that originally aired on November 21, 2009. So far everywhere I've looked for it, the video has been removed do to copyright violations. Furthermore, NBC seems to have edited out that particular scene on their own website where fans can go and watch entire episodes. However, I did save it on my computer and I'm willing to email it to anyone who pm's me their email address.
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Re: Sarah Palin

Postby Marlow » Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:07 pm

Daisy wrote:You're just saying that because you want an excuse to live "Apocalypse Now".

And indeed it will be 'the horror, the horror' . . .
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Re: Sarah Palin

Postby no one » Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:36 am

read the previous yrs posts - I'm wondering, given the last several years if anyone's views have changed, strengthened ... weakened? Mine have strengthened regarding Palin being no more educated or savvy in the arena. 2012 looms large however I think Palin had Dug a substantial grave but padded her pockets quite handsomely. Somebody said once "don't believe your own press clippings" ... or something to that effect. Not sure that's happening here. I am still baffled
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Re: Sarah Palin

Postby Marlow » Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:44 am

The only group that wants Palin nominated for the top of the of the GOP ticket more than the Republicans, are the Democrats . . . [rim-shot]
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Re: Sarah Palin

Postby kuha » Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:13 am

At this point, she's like one of hte Gabor sisters: remarkably little actual ability, and famous simply for being famous.
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Re: Sarah Palin

Postby Flumpy » Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:53 am

Considering we know have to suffer Michele Bachman, I long for the days when Sarah Palin was all we had to worry about.
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Re: Sarah Palin

Postby Brian » Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:31 am

Flumpy wrote:Considering we know have to suffer Michele Bachman, I long for the days when Sarah Palin was all we had to worry about.


Bachman is a candidate for one reason only: The GOP powers want her to do on this stage what she's been doing all along in her career, which is to be a hachet-man (hachet-woman?).

In order for any candidate to be elected, they must portray themselves as a moderate (approx. 80% of the voting public is in actuality either a left or right-leaning moderate)...ideally, while portraying their opponent as being a "dangerous" extremist.

Bachman portrays the extreme Right, thereby making any other GOP candidate look "good" by comparison to her extreme views.


That, and only that, is the reason she has been encouraged by the GOP heads. [And a sound strategy it is.]


And mind you, she either doesn't know this, or (more likely) is in a state of denial. She thinks she's going to be president...!
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Re: Sarah Palin

Postby Pego » Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:41 am

Brian wrote: She thinks she's going to be president...!


I doubt it. If she thinks so, they have pills for that. FWIW, I think she just wants a large stage and microphone for her utter nonsense.
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Re: Sarah Palin

Postby Conor Dary » Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:44 am

Pego wrote:
Brian wrote: She thinks she's going to be president...!


I doubt it. If she thinks so, they have pills for that. FWIW, I think she just wants a large stage and microphone for her utter nonsense.


Sadly, I think you are right. I still hope Palin runs...
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Re: Sarah Palin

Postby Brian » Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:01 am

Also, as hachet-person now on the national stage, Bachman gets a larger forum with which to attack everything about the present administration, thereby possibly paving the road a little for the eventual GOP candidate. [While that actually-electable future candidate can then stay above the fray, acting "presidential."]

This used to be the role of the vice-president. Think Agnew to Nixon.

Point is: Bachman has her purpose in all this, and it isn't to become president.


[Tell me again how Republicans are better at saving public money than Democrats... :) ]
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Re: Sarah Palin

Postby jeremyp » Sat Jul 02, 2011 1:09 pm

We'll have to change the title to: "Sarah Palin morphs into Michelle Bachman." Hmm? How does Bachman kill a Caribou? With a crucifix, right between the eyes!
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Re:

Postby lonewolf » Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:40 pm

Marlow wrote:
jazzcyclist wrote:There is a regular poster on this board, who shall remain nameless, who actually said to me in a pm that Palin was more qualified to be President than Obama and John Kerry. :!: :shock:

LONEWOLF, you rascal, you!! :D

Aha! Caught me reading the Free Speech board..
Nope, wasn't me although I unabashedly agree with that wise poster who shall remain nameless.
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Re: Re:

Postby jazzcyclist » Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:42 am

lonewolf wrote:Aha! Caught me reading the Free Speech board..
Nope, wasn't me although I unabashedly agree with that wise poster who shall remain nameless.

Lonewolf, even you don't believe that. Remember, we're talking qualifications, not ideology. These two Bill O'Reilly videos speak volumes about Palin's ignorance and lack of qualifications for POTUS, and demonstrate why it's an insult to Dan Quayle to compare Palin to him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFJ-bJTIx-0

http://crooksandliars.com/media/play/wmv/10869/
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Re: Re:

Postby lonewolf » Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:22 am

jazzcyclist wrote:[Lonewolf, even you don't believe that. Remember, we're talking qualifications, not ideology. /

I am talking both qualification and idealogy and resulting damage.
I have never advocated that Palin was qualified to be President of the USA. I thought we were talking comparative incompetence.
In that regard, I would take my chances on the third person in the second column on any page of any phone book in America, providing they are native born, age 35 and not a politician, would be preferable to Obama.
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Re: Sarah Palin

Postby kuha » Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:35 am

Wow. And we're talking about one of the most moderate, middle-of-the-road, always seeking compromise Prez's ever; a guy who is driving the left wing crazy for not being more forceful, ideologically pure, and uncompromising.

Where is the "center" in American politics these days? It's not where it used to be; that much is clear.
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Re: Re:

Postby bad hammy » Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:41 am

lonewolf wrote:
jazzcyclist wrote:[Lonewolf, even you don't believe that. Remember, we're talking qualifications, not ideology. /

I am talking both qualification and idealogy and resulting damage.
I have never advocated that Palin was qualified to be President of the USA. I thought we were talking comparative incompetence.
In that regard, I would take my chances on the third person in the second column on any page of any phone book in America, providing they are native born, age 35 and not a politician, would be preferable to Obama.

lonewolf,

It is clear that, while you profess reluctance at hanging out here in the Free Speech board, you are quite adept at negotiating it like a pro!
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Re: Sarah Palin

Postby lonewolf » Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:20 am

Ya got me, hammy. I peeked. :oops:
And then it was like trying to eat one potato(e) chip. :)
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Re: Sarah Palin

Postby Conor Dary » Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:46 am

kuha wrote:Wow. And we're talking about one of the most moderate, middle-of-the-road, always seeking compromise Prez's ever; a guy who is driving the left wing crazy for not being more forceful, ideologically pure, and uncompromising.

Where is the "center" in American politics these days? It's not where it used to be; that much is clear.


It is pretty nutty. His economic team has pretty much given everything the banks wanted and still they scream they are being put upon...

The health care plan is a copy of Romney's and used Republican ideas, including the mandate, from the 1990's, and it is socialism...

All pretty dumb.
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