the use of first names for athletes [split]


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Postby gh » Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:50 pm

mojo wrote:I definitely think an announcer should call all the athletes by their last names. It does seem sexist to call the women (and don't EVER call them girls unless they are under 18 :x ) by their first names and not the men. It is very subtle but it implies to me that they should be taken less seriously. "Mary is stepping into the ring for her final throw just sounds weaker than Smith is taking his/her final throw".

I am all over the map with first and last names. Gary is Gary...no need to explain which Gary. :P :wink: Perdita is Perdita.

I call Sanya Richards Sanya most of the time...I call Andreas...well we wont go there. :lol:

I don't think it is sexist in casual converstaion to mix surnames with first names.
If I said the name Marion here I think we would all know who I meant. Same with Tyson. Or Usain.


Results, announcing, and reporting should be consistent and the last name has always been the standard usage.


For newbies, note that Mojo is the voice of a woman.

Bottom line is that management frowns on (discriminatory) first-name calls. Be kind to management and management will be kind to you.

If you wish to debate free speech and first-amendment rights, we suggest yuo check back on the July 4 weekend when the "free speech" forum has its once-a-year-opening. Until then the amendment that trumps all is that gh (proudly) is a raging feminist.

Now, back to track & field talk.
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Postby EPelle » Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:00 pm

Calling women out on a first-name basis was previously discussed on a Suzy Favor-Hamilton retirement thread

http://mb.trackandfieldnews.com/discuss ... p?p=158940

There was an even earlier thread about first-name calling upon which this general discussion was based which has since been deleted.
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Postby Pego » Thu Jun 04, 2009 4:50 am

I came late to this party, so here is my nickel.

To show respect is a basic courtesy, not PC. I have been as guilty as anybody on this topic and my tongue will probably still slip at times. Then again, I am reminded of George Burns' quip.
"Granma always reminded me to be polite to my elders. I no longer need to be polite to anybody."

Hey lonewolf, ain't that great :D ?
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Postby Taliban » Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:19 am

What a waste....
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Postby guruof track » Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:47 am

Jones has stated she is looking to have an incredible season this year....Williams as well.


I wish these to women much success.
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Postby lonewolf » Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:48 pm

Pego wrote:I came late to this party, so here is my nickel.

To show respect is a basic courtesy, not PC. I have been as guilty as anybody on this topic and my tongue will probably still slip at times. Then again, I am reminded of George Burns' quip.
"Granma always reminded me to be polite to my elders. I no longer need to be polite to anybody."

Hey lonewolf, ain't that great :D ?


I missed this thread last time around but, yep, age does have that advantage, if it is an advantage. On the other hand, I have mixed emotions about being considered so doddering no one take offense at what I say. :)

As to how to address athletes, I can settle that.
Both women and men over HS age should be addressed at Ms or Mr when spoken to directly and called up by last name only when flight coordinating.
Simple.
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