Will White People Riot?


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Will White People Riot?

Postby BruceFlorman » Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:23 am

It's more than a week old, but I read an interesting column this morning...
On TheRoot.com, Wendi C. Thomas wrote:"Would black people riot if Sen. Barack Obama didn't win the election?" That was the question a white man in Memphis recently asked a racial reconciliation group with which I am involved.

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But soon after getting this man's e-mail, I started to wonder if he was on to something, if he had noticed what I had: a seething, barely constrained, ugly anger and frustration that makes good riot fuel. The kind of anger that prompts people to shout "Kill him!" and "Off with his head!" at rallies. The kind of hatefulness that would prompt a man to bring a stuffed monkey with an "Obama" sticker on the toy's head to a campaign event.

That kind of group-fueled nastiness must surely beg the question: Will white people riot if Obama wins?

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The full article is here: http://www.theroot.com/id/48479

Earlier this year my 74-year-old mother, a life-long Democrat, openly questioned whether America was capable of electing a black President. I was a bit surprised by that. I felt (and continue to feel) that we've passed the tipping point where race no longer plays a decisive role in most people's political views. But as the reality of an Obama victory becomes more and more likely, I too am noticing a fragment of society that's going to have a very hard time dealing with the eventuality. While I'm pretty confident that we'll have the first black American President taking office three months from now, I'm much less confident that we'll have the first living black ex-President eight-and-a-half years from now. I hope I'm wrong, but... :(
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Postby guru » Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:27 am

Polls have indicated for several weeks now that Obama is looking like the first Democratic presidential candidate to win a majority of the white vote since LBJ.

Does that answer your question? :roll:
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Postby Daisy » Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:28 am

It's a generational thing. If your mother was twenty one then I might have been surprised.
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Postby jazzcyclist » Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:39 am

guru wrote:Polls have indicated for several weeks now that Obama is looking like the first Democratic presidential candidate to win a majority of the white vote since LBJ.

Does that answer your question? :roll:

At the end of the day, I seriously doubt Obama will get the majority of the White vote, and if he does, it would no doubt mean that we've come a lot farther than I ever realized.
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Postby MJR » Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:43 am

guru wrote:Polls have indicated for several weeks now that Obama is looking like the first Democratic presidential candidate to win a majority of the white vote since LBJ.

Does that answer your question? :roll:


Its not a question of what the average white guy thinks, but rather the one crazy militia guy from the middle of nowhere who "don't want no colored running my country" that is the potential danger here.
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Postby guru » Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:00 am

MJR wrote:Its not a question of what the average white guy thinks, but rather the one crazy militia guy from the middle of nowhere who "don't want no colored running my country" that is the potential danger here.



Yep, that drive-by shooting plan in white tuxes and top hats was bound to get the job done.
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Postby Daisy » Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:21 am

guru wrote:
MJR wrote:Its not a question of what the average white guy thinks, but rather the one crazy militia guy from the middle of nowhere who "don't want no colored running my country" that is the potential danger here.



Yep, that drive-by shooting plan in white tuxes and top hats was bound to get the job done.


Not to mention after they had already killed 87 other people!!
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Postby Mighty Favog » Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:27 am

Recall Rush's line for every show during the Clinton Administration, counting the number of days America had been held hostage. That was for a white Pres. from a red state. There is a portion of the country that will not accept the election results as legitimate, and much of this ACORN crap is merely setting the stage for it. They will not riot but they will seethe with anger.
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Postby racewalker » Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:32 am

Mighty Favog wrote: There is a portion of the country that will not accept the election results as legitimate, and much of this ACORN crap is merely setting the stage for it. They will not riot but they will seethe with anger.


Good. With any luck at all it will ruin their lives.
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Postby lonewolf » Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:44 am

I do not expect any wide scale rioting. I will not be surprised if there are incidents.
It is the Obama camp that keeps injecting race into this campaign, seeing racism in the most innocuous of statements.

I sincerely believe that race is not a significant factor to those who oppose Obama; there are plenty of other reasons. I cannot say the reverse is true.
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Postby Pego » Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:32 am

lonewolf wrote:I sincerely believe that race is not a significant factor to those who oppose Obama


You can't be serious. Perhaps not with some, but it is with quite a few of them.
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Postby mojo » Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:20 am

lonewolf wrote:I do not expect any wide scale rioting. I will not be surprised if there are incidents.
It is the Obama camp that keeps injecting race into this campaign, seeing racism in the most innocuous of statements.

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I could not disagree with you more about Obama's camp injecting race into the campaign. Just the opposite. Obama made one comment, that I know of (and I await your additional examples by him or anyone associated with his campaign) when he said 'he wouldn't look like the other presidents on the dollar bill. One teeny funny comment.


I think BOTH sides have done a good job keeping race out of this.
Can't say the same for some of the nutbar racists that support McCain-and aren't afraid to go on camera with their filth.
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Postby Conor Dary » Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:31 am

mojo wrote:
lonewolf wrote:I do not expect any wide scale rioting. I will not be surprised if there are incidents.
It is the Obama camp that keeps injecting race into this campaign, seeing racism in the most innocuous of statements.

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I could not disagree with you more about Obama's camp injecting race into the campaign. Just the opposite. Obama made one comment, that I know of (and I await your additional examples by him or anyone associated with his campaign) when he said 'he wouldn't look like the other presidents on the dollar bill. One teeny funny comment.


I think BOTH sides have done a good job keeping race out of this.
Can't say the same for some of the nutbar racists that support McCain-and aren't afraid to go on camera with their filth.


I heartily agree with mojo on her first point.

However, it is not true McCain has kept subtle racism out of the race anymore than Reagan with his 'welfare queen' remarks and opening his 1980 campaign in Philadelphia, Mississippi calling for 'states' rights', or Bush 1 with his Willie Horton ads.


This Joe the Plumber is part of this Atwater-Rovian nonsense.

'If that wasn't enough, McCain introduced Wurzelbacher as "an American hero, a great citizen of Ohio and my role model."'

On Tuesday, Wurzelbacher endorsed the insane idea that a vote for Obama would be "a vote for the death of Israel."

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/10/3 ... ole-model/
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Postby Mighty Favog » Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:00 am

Whether it comes from the top or not, it's been said.

Hillsborough (FL) county GOP chair David Storck:
"I see carloads of black Obama supporters coming from the inner city to cast their votes for Obama. This is their chance to get a black president and they seem to care little that he is at minimum, socialist, and probably Marxist in his core beliefs. After all, he is black -- no experience or accomplishments -- but he is black."
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/e ... 883431.ece

Senator Saxy Chambliss (R-GA) is only slightly coded: “The other folks are voting.”
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm? ... 478B019AA7
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Postby tandfman » Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:11 am

Mighty Favog wrote:Whether it comes from the top or not, it's been said.

Hillsborough (FL) county GOP chair David Storck:
"I see carloads of black Obama supporters coming from the inner city to cast their votes for Obama. This is their chance to get a black president and they seem to care little that he is at minimum, socialist, and probably Marxist in his core beliefs. After all, he is black -- no experience or accomplishments -- but he is black."
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/e ... 883431.ece

Guys like that should be drummed out of the GOP. But of course he won't be because that kind of crap is being generated at the top of the party. Socialist? Marxist? Bullshit. It's just a lie and they should be called on this and taken to task every time they say it.
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Postby gh » Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:15 am

Rush just said (and I paraphrase): "Some have called Obama a leftist, or a socialist or even a Marxist. I'll tell you what he is: he's an authoritarian!"

He then went on to give examples of other authoritarians, like Nasser and Castro!
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Postby Marlow » Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:28 am

gh wrote: Obama . . . he's an authoritarian!"


That's so rich. If he were MORE authoritarian, more right-wingers would like him!!
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Postby kuha » Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:36 am

Marlow wrote:
gh wrote: Obama . . . he's an authoritarian!"


That's so rich. If he were MORE authoritarian, more right-wingers would like him!!


Absolutely. The Republicans' disrespect for linguistic meaning and plain old rationality would be comical if it wasn't so cynical and disgraceful. I'm not easy to shock at my age, but alot of this stuff truly shocks me.
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Postby gm » Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:48 am

Why riot? There's another election in four years, unless you wackjob leftnuts declare martial law. </channelingbushderangementsufferers>
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Postby eldrick » Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:56 am

in limey we never thought we'd ever be ready for a woman leader, but we got thatcher back in '79 !

the country got over the novelty after a year or 2

germany, western europe's pwerhouse has merkel, a woman as their leader

if that country given it's hisory can elect a woman, pretty much anyone can get elected in western world countries

the novelty value will wear off after a year or so & he'll be considered just as "the president" & not "the black president"
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Postby jazzcyclist » Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:03 pm

Mighty Favog wrote:Whether it comes from the top or not, it's been said.

Hillsborough (FL) county GOP chair David Storck:
"I see carloads of black Obama supporters coming from the inner city to cast their votes for Obama. This is their chance to get a black president and they seem to care little that he is at minimum, socialist, and probably Marxist in his core beliefs. After all, he is black -- no experience or accomplishments -- but he is black."
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/e ... 883431.ece

Senator Saxy Chambliss (R-GA) is only slightly coded: “The other folks are voting.”
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm? ... 478B019AA7

As these folks diminish the Black support of the Republican party from 10% to 2% by driving out the decent folks like JC Watts and Colin Powell, the only people left will be the kooks like Jesse Lee Peterson. If Obama gets elected, a shrewd move would be to appoint the nation's first Hispanic to the Supreme Court and make Bill Richardson his Secretary of State. That would insure that the present-day Republican party would remain in the minority for at least another generation.
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Postby TrakFan » Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:25 pm

lonewolf wrote:It is the Obama camp that keeps injecting race into this campaign, seeing racism in the most innocuous of statements.


Please explain how his campaign has injected race into...the race?
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Postby kuha » Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:21 pm

TrakFan wrote:
lonewolf wrote:It is the Obama camp that keeps injecting race into this campaign, seeing racism in the most innocuous of statements.


Please explain how his campaign has injected race into...the race?


Yes, indeed. And I find the "keeps injecting" notion particularly curious.
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Postby bad hammy » Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:31 pm

kuha wrote:
TrakFan wrote:
lonewolf wrote:It is the Obama camp that keeps injecting race into this campaign, seeing racism in the most innocuous of statements.


Please explain how his campaign has injected race into...the race?


Yes, indeed. And I find the "keeps injecting" notion particularly curious.

Uh, he's black and he keeps being black??
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Postby kuha » Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:34 pm

bad hammy wrote:
kuha wrote:
TrakFan wrote:
lonewolf wrote:It is the Obama camp that keeps injecting race into this campaign, seeing racism in the most innocuous of statements.


Please explain how his campaign has injected race into...the race?


Yes, indeed. And I find the "keeps injecting" notion particularly curious.

Uh, he's black and he keeps being black??


Well, that's one explanation. By that measure, I "keep injecting hunger" into the world.
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Postby Flumpy » Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:00 am

bad hammy wrote:Uh, he's black and he keeps being black??


That's socialists for ya!!! :roll:
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