openly gay and lesbian athletes?


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Re: openly gay and lesbian athletes?

Postby Seeksreal » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:25 pm

Avante, your personal business concerns about a parade once a year doesn't even come close to outweigh the suffering that gay people have to live through by always considered second-rate and not as good as others--often having to fear violence and bullying as well. In light of that, I really don't care about your business for that one Sunday a year. If a gay pride parade is really having a seriously negative effect on your business, you should probably look into how you manage it anyway. As for the yuck-factor, you would probably be a much happier person in your life if you allowed yourself to be just a bit more de-sensitized to it. As an interesting aside without inferring anything, recent studies have shown that those who have strongest aversion to gay people in general are also those who are most aroused by gay pornography. Makes you go hmmmm... :wink:

I don't mind people having negative opinions about gay people, but I ask of everyone that when you express it, please be mindful of your audience. Words can be extremely hurtful to young people and they don't need to be judged any harder for what they are and cannot help being. You are born gay and you cannot change that. Any person who isn't gay themselves have no business questioning that!! At the end of the day we are all humans, though, and we need to treat each other with courtesy and respect. Any person in a position to be a role model who feels he needs to hide the fact that he is gay is doing dis-service to all of us. It is time for the world to become educated about what this really is about.
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Re: openly gay and lesbian athletes?

Postby Flumpy » Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:12 am

Ok there are a couple more obvious gayers that have come to prominence since we last had this discussion, but no one has come out yet.
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Re: openly gay and lesbian athletes?

Postby kuha » Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:21 pm

It's an enormous sign of social progress that hardly anyone cares about this.
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Re: openly gay and lesbian athletes?

Postby Flumpy » Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:33 pm

This is the truth :D

Although there still a good 10 hours to go so shouldn't speak too soon :P
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Re: openly gay and lesbian athletes?

Postby kuha » Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:35 pm

If Anderson Cooper can come out, I suspect that a gay Olympic gold medalist would do just fine. Maybe no Wheaties box cover, but who gets those anymore anyway?
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Re: openly gay and lesbian athletes?

Postby mump boy » Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:47 pm

We also have gay Hip Hop artists now !! but still no athletes

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/ju ... sfeed=true
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Re: openly gay and lesbian athletes?

Postby SQUACKEE » Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:55 pm

I hope that we are getting closer to the point where it is silly to even say , I am proud to be gay. I think there are many reasons to be proud, but proud of your sexual preference?

Does this sound silly- I would like to announce that I am attracted to women and I am proud of it.
I also like steak and I am proud of it? :mrgreen:

No one loves James Brown more then me and I understand the profound importance of, I'm black and I'm proud. I also want to live to see that this is also, meaningless.

Again, doesn't this sound silly, I'm white and I'm proud. I work with a "person of color" and when he leaves to retrieve something he says, I'll be black and I say "I will be a horrible shade of pink." :oops:

Being gay or being black doesn't tell you anything about that person.
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Re: openly gay and lesbian athletes?

Postby mump boy » Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:03 pm

SQUACKEE wrote:I hope that we are getting closer to the point where it is silly to even say , I am proud to be gay. I think there are many reasons to be proud, but proud of your sexual preference?

Does this sound silly- I would like to announce that I am attracted to women and I am proud of it.
I also like steak and I am proud of it? :mrgreen:

No one loves James Brown more then me and I understand the profound importance of, I'm black and I'm proud. I also want to live to see that this is also, meaningless.

Again, doesn't this sound silly, I'm white and I'm proud. I work with a "person of color" and when he leaves to retrieve something he says, I'll be black and I say "I will be a horrible shade of pink." :oops:

Being gay or being black doesn't tell you anything about that person.


I couldn't agree more, i am also not proud to be black. Neither are things that i have accomplished they just are what they are !!

Historically being both black and gay have been things that one was supposed to be ashamed of so declarations of pride have been and still important but on a personal level i don't feel the need
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Re: openly gay and lesbian athletes?

Postby ldnbloke » Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:10 pm

There was a jump finalist in helsinki who I'm sure is gay and not just because he's yummy
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Re: openly gay and lesbian athletes?

Postby SQUACKEE » Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:13 pm

mump boy wrote:
SQUACKEE wrote:I hope that we are getting closer to the point where it is silly to even say , I am proud to be gay. I think there are many reasons to be proud, but proud of your sexual preference?

Does this sound silly- I would like to announce that I am attracted to women and I am proud of it.
I also like steak and I am proud of it? :mrgreen:

No one loves James Brown more then me and I understand the profound importance of, I'm black and I'm proud. I also want to live to see that this is also, meaningless.

Again, doesn't this sound silly, I'm white and I'm proud. I work with a "person of color" and when he leaves to retrieve something he says, I'll be black and I say "I will be a horrible shade of pink." :oops:

Being gay or being black doesn't tell you anything about that person.


I couldn't agree more, i am also not proud to be black. Neither are things that i have accomplished they just are what they are !!

Historically being both black and gay have been things that one was supposed to be ashamed of so declarations of pride have been and still important but on a personal level i don't feel the need


Well said, mump.
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Re: openly gay and lesbian athletes?

Postby mump boy » Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:13 pm

ldnbloke wrote:There was a jump finalist in helsinki who I'm sure is gay and not just because he's yummy


But it helps :wink:
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Re: openly gay and lesbian athletes?

Postby mump boy » Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:16 pm

SQUACKEE wrote:
mump boy wrote:
SQUACKEE wrote:I hope that we are getting closer to the point where it is silly to even say , I am proud to be gay. I think there are many reasons to be proud, but proud of your sexual preference?

Does this sound silly- I would like to announce that I am attracted to women and I am proud of it.
I also like steak and I am proud of it? :mrgreen:

No one loves James Brown more then me and I understand the profound importance of, I'm black and I'm proud. I also want to live to see that this is also, meaningless.

Again, doesn't this sound silly, I'm white and I'm proud. I work with a "person of color" and when he leaves to retrieve something he says, I'll be black and I say "I will be a horrible shade of pink." :oops:

Being gay or being black doesn't tell you anything about that person.


I couldn't agree more, i am also not proud to be black. Neither are things that i have accomplished they just are what they are !!

Historically being both black and gay have been things that one was supposed to be ashamed of so declarations of pride have been and still important but on a personal level i don't feel the need


Well said, mump.


we have World Pride in london this weekend. it is going to be a totally embarrassing shambles. I don't know anyone who's going to go.

My friend Scotty says it all here

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/scottee ... _hp_ref=uk
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Re: openly gay and lesbian athletes?

Postby SQUACKEE » Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:22 pm

mump boy wrote:o.

My friend Scotty says it all here

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/scottee ... _hp_ref=uk


I don't believe below to be true, at least for men, I think women are more flexible, what say you?
Maybe he means the cliche' of what a gay man looks and acts like?

I won't be attending Pride this year. I'm fine being a homosexual any day of the year. Gay is a lifestyle choice and like Pride I don't have the cash to fund it.
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Re: openly gay and lesbian athletes?

Postby mump boy » Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:25 pm

SQUACKEE wrote:
mump boy wrote:o.

My friend Scotty says it all here

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/scottee ... _hp_ref=uk


I don't believe below to be true, at least for men, I think women are more flexible, what say you?
Maybe he means the cliche' of what a gay man looks and acts like?

I won't be attending Pride this year. I'm fine being a homosexual any day of the year. Gay is a lifestyle choice and like Pride I don't have the cash to fund it.


I don't know what he means by that and i don't think he believes it either !!
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Re: openly gay and lesbian athletes?

Postby Flumpy » Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:29 pm

You've misunderstood him.

He's not suggesting you can choose your sexuality. He's saying that you can choose whether to your life in a 'gay' way or not. Just because Pride is on for the gays it doesn't mean he has to go.

Read the comments further down, someone asks the same question.
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Re: openly gay and lesbian athletes?

Postby andyjgt » Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:45 pm

Not about any athletes, but loosely connected with athletics - the Helsinki Gay Pride festival took place last week at the same time as the Euros, with the climax being people congregating in Senate Square and walking to Hesperia Park in the afternoon before the athletics started. My parents were in the city with me (though not at the games) and witnessed it.
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Re: openly gay and lesbian athletes?

Postby Flumpy » Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:50 pm

Sounds wild!!! :lol: :P :shock:
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Re: openly gay and lesbian athletes?

Postby andyjgt » Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:53 pm

Not really - they said it was peaceful and not many police were needed.

In London that'd bring the city to a standstill!
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Re: openly gay and lesbian athletes?

Postby mump boy » Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:44 pm

They really won't

The parade has been cancelled as they have no money and the headline act is Deborah Cox who no one in UK has ever heard of
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Re: openly gay and lesbian athletes?

Postby trevorp » Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:00 pm

ldnbloke wrote:There was a jump finalist in helsinki who I'm sure is gay and not just because he's yummy

If we're thinking of the same one, I wouldn't be surprised either way - he seems to think that keeping people guessing lends him some mystique (a bit lame - Bowie and others did that in the 70s).

I agree with you about him though. Verily, he offendeth not mine eye.
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