what if college football teams needed unique names?


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what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby gh » Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:15 am

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Re: what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby Blues » Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:54 pm

At least my alma mater isn't involved since "Scarlet Knights" is a unique nickname... We're not a national power anyway so there's little chance for media nickname confusion, and based on our anticipated initial Big Ten Conference performance that will start next year, we'll probably be relegated to local-media-coverage-only for at least half a century or more.... (smile)
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Re: what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby mcgato » Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:51 pm

I'd keep Stanford Cardinal, and I didn't even go there. It's a color for god's sake. Louisville can have the bird version of Cardinals.

I did go to the University of Chicago, which also went with the color theme. Copy Harvard much? Curiously, though, they made it plural, the Maroons. Never quite figured that out. We did get a chuckle during movie night cartoons when Bugs Bunny would insult someone by saying "What a maroon."
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Re: what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby 26mi235 » Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:36 pm

Pomona College (plus Pitzer) are the Sage Hens, while the Zips of Arkon and the Sea Slugs of UC Santa Cruz are all pretty unique mascots. However, the state with the most aptly named big schools might be Oregon with the Beavers and Ducks...
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Re: what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby dukehjsteve » Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:40 pm

I was a Blue Devil in HS ( Huntington HS, NY ) and then in college ( Duke) so that's ok with me ! :D
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Re: what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby gh » Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:23 pm

26mi235 wrote:Pomona College (plus Pitzer) are the Sage Hens, while the Zips of Arkon and the Sea Slugs of UC Santa Cruz are all pretty unique mascots. However, the state with the most aptly named big schools might be Oregon with the Beavers and Ducks...


Santa Cruz is the banana slug (big diff!).
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Re: what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby DrJay » Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:17 pm

Not much competition for Tar Heels.
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Re: what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby gh » Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:16 am

I had to snicker at my alma mater's entry

<<<<Cougars

Schools using the name: BYU, Houston, Washington State

Who gets to keep it: Houston. Because Wazzu drinks too much and BYU doesn't drink enough.>>
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Re: what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby lonewolf » Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:41 am

Cowboy.
OkState, Wyoming, McMurray (I think)

OkState used the Piston Pete logo for decades but neglected to register it. Wyoming started using a near identical logo, registered it, now OSU has to pay Wyoming royalty on the logo.

dunno who gets to keet the Cowboy name.. Of course, OSU was known as Aggies or Okalgs when it was OAMC (Oklahoma Agricultural and Mechanical College)
A&M colleges used to dot the nation. I think Texas A&M is the only one to retain the name.
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Re: what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby mcgato » Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:57 am

Not in the FBS division, but Florida A&M is still around. Most call it FAMU. A look at wiki shows an Alabama A&M also, but I'm not familiar with it.
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Re: what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby BillVol » Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:50 pm

No problem as far as that goes at Tennessee.

Oglethorpe U. in Atlanta has a unique nickname. The Stormy Petrel. Just learned that one the other day.
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Re: what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby Master Po » Thu Oct 03, 2013 4:21 am

I was a Hoya for a while, and then ended up a Hoosier. Both good candidates for "never to be duplicated" team nicknames -- and for good reason. :)
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Re: what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby dj » Thu Oct 03, 2013 6:51 am

mcgato wrote:Not in the FBS division, but Florida A&M is still around. Most call it FAMU. A look at wiki shows an Alabama A&M also, but I'm not familiar with it.


Jearl Miles-Clark went to Alabama A&M, 400/LJ.
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Re: what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby Mighty Favog » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:38 am

I was a Bowling Green Falcon. The name was adopted in 1927 so I doubt we were the first.

If we had to be unique we could go the route of the Cleveland Browns (who adopted BG's colors as their own) and become the Perrys, after the coach who built the football team into a 1950s college division powerhouse. Completely unrelated: the city of Perrysburg is only 10 miles away, named for Commodore Perry (of the War of 1812).

Probably a more popular option would be the Ziggies, for the traditional post-game nonsense song Ay Ziggy Zoomba.
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Re: what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby gh » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:56 am

the all-time un-PC name (since rescinded) had to be the high school in Pekin, Illinois: the Chinks (seriously).

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1994-1 ... gh-tribune
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Re: what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby bambam » Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:10 am

If the USC men's team are the Trojans, why are the women's teams the Lady Trojans - shouldn't they be the Diaphragms, or the IUDs?
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Re: what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby lonewolf » Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:14 am

A number of HS in Oklahoma, many/ most/all of which have Indian students and some were originally all Indian schools have mascots names such as Braves, Warriors, Savages, Indians, Redskins or tribal names. I am not aware any have been pressured to make a PC name change.
Years ago, University of Oklahoma Sooners had a mascot, "Little Red", an Indian student in native regalia who danced around a teepee in the end zone at football games. That tradition was abandoned under pressure from ????.. OU still maintains the "Sooner Schooner" a small scale Conestoga wagon pulled by Shetland ponies that, venue permitting, circles the end zone after a score.
"Sooner",of course, has not always been a respected name. It was originally applied to claim jumpers who entered Indian Territory "sooner" than they should have prior to the Land Run of 1889.
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Re: what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby bambam » Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:22 am

I am an Irish-American and I am offended by the name Boston Celtics. They need to change that name immediately! After all, we all told if anything offends even one person, we have to stop it, correct?
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Re: what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby lonewolf » Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:52 am

I have always interpreted that these "savage" names were intended, not to be derogatory, but as complimentary; testament to the bravery, strength and cohesiveness of the American Indian.
I have Comanche/Choctaw/Creek ancestors and I am not offended.
A huge percentage of native Oklahomans have some/a lot/all Indian "blood". Maybe it is because most have succeeded in the White Man's World but it is just not a recurring point of contention.
I will concede that not all Indians feel the same but I can honestly recall only one friend, a successful professional, who is less Indian than I am, grumble about Indian themed mascots...and he is from a county and community that is overwhelmingly American Indian.
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Re: what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby user4 » Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:33 pm

bambam wrote:If the USC men's team are the Trojans, why are the women's teams the Lady Trojans - shouldn't they be the Diaphragms, or the IUDs?


That is somewhat offensive.. seriously!
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Re: what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby bambam » Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:45 pm

user4 wrote:
bambam wrote:If the USC men's team are the Trojans, why are the women's teams the Lady Trojans - shouldn't they be the Diaphragms, or the IUDs?


That is somewhat offensive.. seriously!


You probably belong to a Trojan cult then.
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Re: what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby Mighty Favog » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:41 pm

Slightly off-topic: which high school's teams are the Tarblooders, what does the term mean, and why does it belong on a track message board?
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Re: what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby Bruce Kritzler » Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:03 pm

Tarblooders=Cleveland Glenville, Ohio track powerhouse
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Re: what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby wamego relays champ » Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:00 am

Mighty Favog wrote:Slightly off-topic: which high school's teams are the Tarblooders, what does the term mean, and why does it belong on a track message board?


gh wrote:the all-time un-PC name (since rescinded) had to be the high school in Pekin, Illinois: the Chinks (seriously).


Others may recall the misguided aversion to the mascot of Compton (CA) HS (alma mater of Ulis Williams).

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/varsitytimesinsider/2007/11/whats-in-a-name.html

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Re: what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby bekayne » Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:54 pm

lonewolf wrote: OU still maintains the "Sooner Schooner" a small scale Conestoga wagon pulled by Shetland ponies that, venue permitting, circles the end zone after a score.

Spent too much time on the field & cost the Sooners a 15 yard penalty in the 1985 Orange Bowl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0NOuti5LfU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v04wP_c9bQA
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Re: what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby houstonian » Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:07 pm

The best nicknames (organic, regionally specific, state relevant and/or ORIGINAL):
HM Montana Grizzlies
HM Oklahoma Sooners
10. Purdue Boilermakers
9. Alabama Crimson Tide - even Donald Fagen knows this
8. TCU Horned Frogs
7. Florida Gators
6. Oregon Ducks
5. North Carolina Tar Heels
4. California Bears
3. Texas Longhorns
2.. Ohio State Buckeyes
1. Tennessee Volunteers - sanctioned by Teddy Roosevelt

The worst nicknames (stereotypical, regionally non-specific, irrelevant to the state and/or THOUGHTLESS):
HM Princeton Tigers - at least they have Tigers' colors
10. Clemson Tigers
9. Houston Cougars - not a Cougar in sight
8. USC Trojans - LA climate is closer to Troy's
7. Pitt Panthers
6. Rutgers Scarlet Knights
5. LSU/Auburn Tigers - only one Tiger per conference please
4. Baylor Bears
3. Michigan State Spartans- it does not snow in Sparta
2. Notre Dame Fighting Irish
1. Wake Forest Demon Deacons - mixed metaphor!
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Re: what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby lonewolf » Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:48 pm

Back in the day, the Canadian Football League included the Saskatchewan Roughriders and the Ottawa Rough Riders. :?
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Re: what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby bushop » Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:42 am

The best nicknames (organic, regionally specific, state relevant and/or ORIGINAL):
Hope College Flying Dutchmen
Williams College Ephelia, the Purple Cow (Ephs)

The worst nicknames (stereotypical, regionally non-specific, irrelevant to the state and/or THOUGHTLESS):
Crusaders of any kind (not a nice group of folks)
U of Michigan Wolverines (no wolverines in Michigan)

Interesting:
College of Faith Mighty Believers
DET Denby Tech Prep Tars
DET Southeastern Jungaleers
DET Pershing Doughboys
DET Cass Tech Technicians
Huron River Rats
Cranbrook Cranes
Colon Magi
Fordson Tractors (former home of Ford tractor manufacturing)
Edwardsberg Eddies
Escanaba Eskymos (odd)
Gladwin Flying G's
Gwinn Modeltowners
Iron River West Iron County Wykons
Ishpeming Hematites
Manistique Emeralds
Midland Chemics (home of Dow Chemical)
Onekama Portagers
Plymouth Salem Rocks
Vassar Vulcans
Ypsilanti Lincoln Railsplitters
Zeeland East Chix
Zeeland West Dux (the school split in two, both on one campus)
Saint Mary HS Shillelaghs
Britton-Macon HS Tories
Saint Anthony HS Teutons
Saint Vincent HS Gaels
Saint John HS Gaels
Galien HS Gaels
Saint James HS Dales
Faith Christian Conquerors
Port Hope HS Bluestars
Saint Mary HS Rustics
Sacred Heart HS Thorns
MacArthur HS Generals
Three Oaks HS Oakers
Waterford HS Skippers
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Re: what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby gh » Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:53 am

How about Washington's Richland Bombers (near the nuclear facility in Hanford).

Check out the logo

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... JcBEPwdMAs
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Re: what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby odelltrclan » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:47 am

gh wrote:I had to snicker at my alma mater's entry

<<<<Cougars

Schools using the name: BYU, Houston, Washington State

Who gets to keep it: Houston. Because Wazzu drinks too much and BYU doesn't drink enough.>>


We could use the alternative "urban" definitions for some of these mascots if needed . . .

I think there are a lot more using this name, and others than normally would come to mind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... ted_States
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Re: what if college football teams needed unique names?

Postby bekayne » Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:03 pm

Nova Scotia has the St. Francis Xavier X-Men as well as the Acadia Axemen. So the X-Men play the Axemen every year.
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