5 More Jamaican positives [and now Damar Robinson]


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5 More Jamaican positives [and now Damar Robinson]

Postby zidan » Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:48 am

I think I might be hearing too many voices, but I heard again that 2 Jam sprinters and three throwers has also turned up positive... I seriously don't know what to believe at this point.
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby tm71 » Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:49 am

eldanielfire wrote:
tm71 wrote:
jazzcyclist wrote:
Bob Duncan wrote:Haven't Tyson and VCB been training in the same location in Florida?

If I'm not mistaken, they both trained with Lance Brauman, the former Arkansas coach who went to prison.


what do u expect ? It would like if your tax preparer was the same one wesley snipes used then u shouldn't be surprised u might get into trouble too ! if TG trusted people like that then he is totally naive and deserves his fate. But why does a sport keep associating with people like conte, graham and so many other dubious at best characters ?!?!


I agree....to some extent. However you enter college as a teenager, do you honestly think these young athletes know who are the likely dirty or clean coaches? Especially when sponsorship companies are encouraging to go with the most successful and probably using the "not guilty until proven guilty" guilty response to any queries.


Absolutely true. if your job is running and that is all u know and leave all the details to others who come across as the trusting uncle types then it is likely u might get burned.
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby norunner » Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:50 am

t_monk wrote:RJR Sports can report that 2 Olympic medallists are among 5 Jamaicans who returned adverse Analytical findings for banned drugs in June.

wow.... I heard 2.... But.... wow....
What's RJR Sports and link to that report please?
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby tm71 » Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:52 am

zidan wrote:I think I might be hearing too many voices, but I heard again that 2 Jam sprinters and three throwers has also turned up positive... I seriously don't know what to believe at this point.


So half a dozen in just one weekend ? And there aren't any big meets this weekend !
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby t_monk » Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:53 am

norunner wrote:
t_monk wrote:RJR Sports can report that 2 Olympic medallists are among 5 Jamaicans who returned adverse Analytical findings for banned drugs in June.

wow.... I heard 2.... But.... wow....
What's RJR Sports and link to that report please?



RJR Sports is a radio station here in Jamaica.... More will come later, as of now, the link I have is: https://twitter.com/kayraynor
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby ldnbloke » Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:53 am

zidan wrote:I think I might be hearing too many voices, but I heard again that 2 Jam sprinters and three throwers has also turned up positive... I seriously don't know what to believe at this point.

Ate the throwers from JAM? Post is ambiguous.
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby toyracer » Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:55 am

I am very saddened to hear this. Saw it first on Ato's twitter feed.

I like Tyson Gay. Certainly didn't have any ill will toward him.



t_monk, do you have a link to that report you've cited? I don't see anything on their web site.

http://rjrnewsonline.com/

I've got a bad feeling in my gut...
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby bobguild76 » Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:55 am

Ouch! This hurts ... as much as VCB. Two of the best sprinters and ambassadors for T&F. Dunno what to say, other than, Ouch! This hurts.

Not ambassadors as in outgoing personality and always talking to the general public ... but because of quiet professionalism and classy demeanor.
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby TrainerPhil » Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:56 am

Lots of speculation. So, to be clear, there are 2 Jamaican sprinters, who have medalled at a major championship, who have also tested positive for something in June?
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby AFTERBURNER » Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:57 am

Please god please not Usain....
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby toyracer » Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:57 am

And as soon as I posted, RJR News now has this headline:

BREAKING NEWS Five Jamaican athletes reportedly test positive for banned substances

Not good.
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby betterthanb4 » Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:59 am

smh :(
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby JWiz » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:00 am

Yikes! The shoe about to fall off the foot.
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby tm71 » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:01 am

toyracer wrote:And as soon as I posted, RJR News now has this headline:

BREAKING NEWS Five Jamaican athletes reportedly test positive for banned substances

Not good.


I guess the saying must be true "where is smoke there is fire"
So I ask how is it possible some people on this board to know this information before it even hits the news wires ?
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby Speedster » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:02 am




"Two of the sprinters are Olympic medallists.

A representative of one of the sprinters declined to comment.

The other sprinter was down to compete in Europe on the weekend but did not face the starter."

Biggest sprint meet this weekend Madrid? Anyone not race as planned?
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby Blues » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:03 am

I have ambivalent feelings... This news breaks my heart, but on the other hand, it helps to reconfirm my trust in either WADA or USADA, despite the fact that I still believe that only a small percentage of drug cheats are caught due the the technology that the cheaters (who can afford it) have.
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby AFTERBURNER » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:03 am

KINGSTON, Jamaica -- Five Jamaican track and field athletes have tested positive for doping, although a newspaper reported none of the nation's premier sprinters is among the group.
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby eldanielfire » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:04 am

toyracer wrote:And as soon as I posted, RJR News now has this headline:

BREAKING NEWS Five Jamaican athletes reportedly test positive for banned substances

Not good.



2 Medalists according to the previous posts...I'd not believe it, but the earlier (now deleted)posts being accurate on Gay means I'm not dismissing this as I normally would.
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby mump boy » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:04 am

This guy is saying 2 JAM gold medallists :shock:

https://twitter.com/AndreLowe_media

that narrows it down a bit basically, Usain, SAF or 2 others from m4x1 :shock:
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby ATK » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:05 am

It might as well rain and thunderstorm in Moscow now. Yea Tyson is only a sprinter in 2 events, but he was Bolt's main rival. Most people were interested knowing that Bolt could potentially be beaten in Moscow in a few weeks. Unlike VCB who was somewhat showing signs of decline, Tyson was literally on the verge of improving his PBs in both events with some of the top tines in history...


welp. Let's hope the sport keeps going like after Ben and after Marion. Still gotta love the sport I guess.
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby betterthanb4 » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:06 am

This is getting ugly at warp speed :!:
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby t_monk » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:06 am

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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby eDJon20 » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:08 am

Track and Field about to RIP soon if this keeps up
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby eldanielfire » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:08 am

mump boy wrote:This guy is saying 2 JAM gold medallists :shock:

https://twitter.com/AndreLowe_media

that narrows it down a bit basically, Usain, SAF or 2 others from m4x1 :shock:


The guy says due to a New supplement . Bolt claims not even to take supplements except Vitamin C to ensure he doesn't risk taking anything tainted. Sally Peareson says the same thing.
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby AFTERBURNER » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:10 am

Track's governing body confirmed Friday that it received paperwork about the tests from the Jamaica Anti-Doping Commission. IAAF spokesman Nick Davies did not identify the athletes or the drug.

Herb Elliott of the Jamaica Anti-Doping Commission told Radio Jamaica that four men and one woman have been informed of the results and will have an opportunity to contest them at a hearing. They tested positive at last month's national championships and all of them were chosen for the 46-member team representing Jamaica at next month's world championships in Berlin, Elliott said.

The Jamaica Observer, citing unidentified sources, first reported the positive tests and said they did not include any of the top sprinters. The newspaper reported there were two members of the men's 400-meter relay team, two on the men's 1,600-meter relay and a female runner in the 1,600 relay.

Three-time Olympic gold medalist Usain Bolt said he was not concerned.

"As long as I'm clean I'm just going forward," Bolt said after winning the 100 meters at the London Grand Prix. "It's sad for the sport because the sport was getting on so well. I was trying to bring it back. This is probably a step backwards because people start questioning everybody, especially from Jamaica.

"For me it doesn't matter because I will be going out there, day after day, doing my best. I get tested all the time. It shows that people get tested and they get caught if they are on drugs."

Jamaican Prime Minister Bruce Golding called a meeting with top athletics officials to discuss the situation, government spokesman Ken Jones said.

Success in track and field is a source of national pride in the Caribbean nation whose sprinters dominated the Beijing Olympics.

"I'm heartbroken because you never want anybody from your country or your team to ever be tested positive," Aleen Bailey said after the women's 200 at the London GP. "It hurts when it's someone from your country, so it's kind of hard for me right now."

Jamaican sprinter Julien Dunkley was dropped from the team a year ago after testing positive for the banned drug Boldenone during Olympic trials. Dunkley, who said he was innocent, also was banned for two years by the IAAF.

Former 100-meter world record-holder Asafa Powell said "it's their bad luck."

"It's not for me to worry about," he said. "It doesn't affect me one bit. People might be saying bad stuff now but it doesn't really bother me."
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby t_monk » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:10 am

mump boy wrote:This guy is saying 2 JAM gold medallists :shock:

https://twitter.com/AndreLowe_media

that narrows it down a bit basically, Usain, SAF or 2 others from m4x1 :shock:

This Olympic or going back to 2004? Because that could also include 2004 w4x100, 2008 m4x100 and M. Walker
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby JWiz » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:11 am

Imagine if Tyson and Bolt go down same day.


R.I.P T&F.
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby Speedster » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:11 am

Speedster wrote:



"Two of the sprinters are Olympic medallists.

A representative of one of the sprinters declined to comment.

The other sprinter was down to compete in Europe on the weekend but did not face the starter."

Biggest sprint meet this weekend Madrid? Anyone not race as planned?


Looking at the start lists...
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby TrainerPhil » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:11 am

gh, you might wanna open up that "Free Speech" section.
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby DoubleRBar » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:12 am

Very discouraging.
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby justrunfast » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:12 am

A & S
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby zidan » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:12 am

My sources has given me two names and one of them is big, not very big, but big, the other did in fact pulled out of a meet in Europe... now this thread will have record postings for sure... :evil:
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby Master Po » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:14 am

Speedster wrote:



"Two of the sprinters are Olympic medallists.

A representative of one of the sprinters declined to comment.

The other sprinter was down to compete in Europe on the weekend but did not face the starter."

Biggest sprint meet this weekend Madrid? Anyone not race as planned?


I am definitely not in the know, in the loop, or in much of anything, but I read start lists and results lists, and noticed one JAM sprinter included on the Madrid 100m start lists who was not on the Madrid results lists.
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby tm71 » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:16 am

JWiz wrote:Imagine if Tyson and Bolt go down same day.


R.I.P T&F.



That would be monstrous but it seems like the sprinters were medalists in the relay only not individual events from the report
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Re: More Jamaican positives [split]

Postby gh » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:16 am

a tweet by SI's Tim Layden:

@SITimLayden: What does Gay positive mean for T&F? It's not good, but Usain Bolt is T&F. If he gets nailed, track is curling.
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby mump boy » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:20 am

t_monk wrote:
mump boy wrote:This guy is saying 2 JAM gold medallists :shock:

https://twitter.com/AndreLowe_media

that narrows it down a bit basically, Usain, SAF or 2 others from m4x1 :shock:

This Olympic or going back to 2004? Because that could also include 2004 w4x100, 2008 m4x100 and M. Walker


True

He's now saying they're all JAM based and from same training group
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Re: More Jamaican positives [split]

Postby Marlow » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:20 am

gh wrote:a tweet by SI's Tim Layden:

@SITimLayden: What does Gay positive mean for T&F? It's not good, but Usain Bolt is T&F. If he gets nailed, track is curling.

JV Middle School curling.
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby t_monk » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:20 am

If I can believe the article... I essentially know the female....
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Re: Looks Like It's True!!! - Tyson Busted

Postby eldanielfire » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:22 am

ATK wrote:

welp. Let's hope the sport keeps going like after Ben and after Marion. Still gotta love the sport I guess.


I think it's been proven once drug busts are done the sport finds new stars. Core fans worry about the destruction of the sport but it never appears to bother casual fans.
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