jazzcyclist wrote:It was at the Col de Joux-Plane in 2000 and Ullrich is the one who took time out of him. I was there that day, and took pictures of both Armstrong and Ullrich about 50 meters from the summit.
I think I remember seeing you there, jazzy. Weren't you the guy who ran alongside all the leaders and then mooned everybody?
Eleven Tour de France team payrolls in euros, according to the latest published financial statements of their parent companies or estimates from team executives:
BMC Racing 15 million euros (2013 estimate) Team Sky 13.2 million euros (2011) Team Saxo Bank 9.01 million euros (2012) Garmin-Sharp 7.28 million euros (2013 estimate) Omega Pharma 6.55 million euros (2011) Cannondale 6.24 million euros (2012) Francaise des Jeux 6.07 million euros (2012) Movistar 5.91 million euros (2011) Cofidis 4.46 million euros (2011) Europcar 4.08 million euros (2012) Sojasun 2.13 million euros (2011)
bambam wrote:I hate it when the Tour ends. I look forward to watching it every nite and on weekend mornings.
I was thinking yesterday, as the show ended, how it's like the end of March Madness for us Tar Heels and Blue Devils. I was a'settin' in my fellow UNC fan's kitchen in 2009 waiting for the championship game to start and I said, "It's been a long month" and he replied, "I know....I'm TIRED!"
Guess it's worse if you're an NHL fan and your team goes all the way. The Stanley Cup playoffs go on FOREVER.
jeremyp wrote:Interesting article about fans and fan behavior in the NY Times. Watching the climbs when these guys have to cycle through that gantlet (or should I say unruly mob?) is nerve racking. My wife suggested that each bicycle wheel be equipped with those scythes they had in Ben Hur. And she's a demure English girl! To me it's like being in a bar with a bunch of drunks. They think they're funny, but how do they feel if they watch a video of it the next morning? There isn't anything like this in any other sport is there! I've tried to get male friends interested in just tuning in once but they look at me with: "Watch cyclists in France, why?" http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/20/sport ... ports&_r=0
I think the riders should start carrying little cans of mace.
"To Tour novices, particularly Americans, the behavior of fans is mind-boggling. “This just could not happen in the States,” said Kate Phillips, 45, whose husband, an Army officer, was recently transferred to Europe. 'Americans are so cautious. They would have barriers everywhere.'”
Not quite true. The fans here in Colorado for the first two US Pro Cycling Challenge (now called US Pro Challenge) races have been every bit as rabid as in France. Smaller numbers, but still numerous and vocal, camping out ahead of the mountain stages, crowding the riders on the climbs, acting a bit crazed, hanging out alongside the team buses as they discharge their riders before the start of each stage. The riders have compared the response favorably to Le Tour. Looking forward to the announcement of the entrants for this year's race (Aug 19-25).
Peloton rules, such as pee breaks, are dictated by the "patron" (pronounce puh-TRON) - basically the leader of the peloton. This is not necessarily the yellow jersey. Only certain, hugely respected riders are considered the patron. Hinault was one - LeMond never was, partly because he was American in an era when that was an outcast in the Tour. Armstrong was the patron. Merckx was, of course, the patron of all patrons. In addition to pee breaks, patrons set standards about when to wait for a fallen rider, when to attack a fallen rider, when to chase a breakaway, etc. In the absence of a definite patron, the yellow jersey probably is in charge.
I would add that another duty of the patron is to grant favors to other riders, like allowing a rider to ride alone in front of the peleton if the Tour is going through his hometown. Of course they also dish out punishments, such Amrstrong's infamous "disciplining" of an Italian cyclist in the 2005 Tour for discussing drugs with the media. The patron is also usually an older rider, so despite his success in this year's Tour, I doubt that Froome is the patron. More likely it was someone like Cadel Evans or Alberto Contador.
'Team Sky cyclist Jonathan Tiernan-Locke has been notified of a potential discrepancy in his "biological passport data" by the sport's governing body. The Sunday Times reported that he has been asked by the International Cycling Union (UCI) to explain suspect blood values. Team Sky said the 28-year-old Briton has withdrawn from racing "whilst his response to the UCI is prepared".'
Yes, but there are some parties that looked closely at his data and did not see anything that was a red flag (his new team - Sky, and Vaughters). This one is not a 'positive' and I would be cautious about reading anything in to it right now, especially because they have gotten some pushback on the bio-passport and might not want a case that is not very clean/clear.
At the same time both Garmin and Sky expressed interest in signing Tiernan-Locke for 2013. According to Smith, Garmin tested Tiernan-Locke. The American team has a staunch anti-doping policy and test every rider before offering them a contract. With no biological passport tied to Tiernan-Locke due to his team’s ranking, the rider was invited to the team’s base in Girona for testing.
“We had a no-doping policy and talked openly within the team about that. We signed up to Bike Pure and we wanted to be seen as a clean team and that came right from the top. So we made sure everyone was looked after and that anyone could come to us is strict confidence if they wanted to talk. There were no problems whatsoever,” said Smith.
“Then in early April we were contacted by Garmin and I spoke to Jonathan Vaughters about it. We were also approached by Brailsford and he asked my thoughts at that time. I said John was the real deal and that we didn’t see there being any problems.”