Çakır-Alptekin positive? [second scandal erupts]


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Re: Çakır-Alptekin positive?

Postby Gebrucilassie » Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:10 pm

I cringe every time I see another "drug story" about track & field. Some friends, who know nothing about our beloved sport, ask me why I still care about a bunch of cheaters.It kills me because they are huge NFL, MLB and NBA fans. They say the records are bogus because "everyone cheats". Really?? IF the mainstream media covered drug issues in those leagues the same as T&F, Hank Aaron would still be the HR record holder. But they won't. It's much easier to throw mud at T&F. I am so pissed I could spit! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Re: Çakır-Alptekin positive?

Postby JumboElliott » Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:51 pm

Even Hank Aaron and Willie Mays aren't spotless. They played in an era where they took massive quantities of amphetamines.
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Re: Çakır-Alptekin positive?

Postby lionelp1 » Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:31 pm

Is there not the deepest irony that the nation that developed, encouraged and believed in the Corinthian spirit of amateurism in the 19th Century and early part of the 20th Century was later laughed at as our of touch and really rather silly; the Brits of course. Now we have the fully fledged "winning is all, winning is everything, winning is the only thing" mentality of modern sport emanating from the American cultural norm, in the first instance, and your main sports are based on the idea of cheating is wholly necessary and our soccer shit is not far behind, as just two examples. as for the media.... a disgusting load of evil. :mrgreen:
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Re: Cakir-Alptekin positive?

Postby andyjgt » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:08 am

gh wrote:
Hil-da wrote:
Daisy wrote:AW running with the story too.
Turkish Olympic gold medallist Asli Cakir Alptekin named as one of eight athletes to have returned positive doping tests

http://www.athleticsweekly.com/news/lon ... wCmwTk4.99

Are the other seven known?

http://www.cnnturk.com/2013/spor/03/22/ ... index.html
Three named so far - all big names


Specifically (in case your Turkish is bad :mrgreen: ) hurdler Nevin Yanıt & steepler Gülcan Mıngır...


Mıngır competed in Finland today at the Paavo Nurmi Games, running 9:45.80 to beat Galkina's 9:47.38, I guess she hasn't been banned then?
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Re: Çakır-Alptekin positive?

Postby Deuce » Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:21 pm

Second doping scandal hits Turkey

Eight Turkish athletes tested positive for doping substances days after similar accusations were made regarding eight Turkish weightlifters, according to Anadolu Agency.

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http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/second ... sCatID=371
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15 Turkish athletes test positive

Postby GDAWG » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:07 pm

Turkey’s doping scandal grows as 15 new athletes tested ‘positive’

Fifteen Turkish athletes tested positive for doping substances days after similar accusations were made regarding eight Turkish weightlifters, according to Anadolu Agency.

Five athletes competing in the European Team Championships had previously been accused of doping, and the list became longer today with additional names. Eşref Apak, Kaan Şencan, Elif Yıldırım, İsa Can, Umut Aday, Ummuhani Karaçadırlı, Fatih Eryıldırım and Narin Kahraman became the latest athletes to have tested positive for banned substances.

Turkish Athletics Federation chairman Mehmet Terzi admitted that 24 athletes were suspected with doping this year.

Terzi added that the federation’s battle with doping will continue, claiming that doping figures “will go minimum by September.”

Officials called on all athletes on the list to withdraw if they were currently competing in the Mediterranean Games.

If the athletes face punishment following further procedures, Turkey may lose points as a team, after landing in the ninth spot in the European Teams Championship.

The scandals regarding doping by Turkish athletes have been coming one after the other since Olympic champion Aslı Çakır Alptekin and European champion Nevin Yanıt also faced allegations of doping, though no official confirmation came regarding either of the athletes. The star athletes were also suspended from international competition by the International Association of Athletics Federation.

Eight weightlifters were left off the Turkish national squad ahead of the Mediterranean Games, which started June 20 in Mersin, after testing positive for doping.


http://www.hurriyetd...6&NewsCatID=371

What is going on in Turkey?
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Re: 15 Turkish athletes test positive

Postby shivfan » Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:31 am

:shock:
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Re: 15 Turkish athletes test positive

Postby 26mi235 » Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:33 am

I think I posted this story and probably this link in another thread (European Cup?). By the way, this link does not work. Was there a link on the Home Page several days back?
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Re: 15 Turkish athletes test positive

Postby br » Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:51 am

26mi235 wrote:I think I posted this story and probably this link in another thread (European Cup?). By the way, this link does not work. Was there a link on the Home Page several days back?

Appeared on June 27.

Another Doping Scandal Hits Turkey
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/second ... sCatID=371
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Re: Çakır-Alptekin positive? [second scandal erupts]

Postby eldanielfire » Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:35 pm

Bloody heck! Turkey are starting to make the East German's look straight edge by comparison.
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Re: 15 Turkish athletes test positive

Postby uakari » Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:24 pm

GDAWG wrote:What is going on in Turkey?


you mean other than the wholesale buying of foreign athletes like bahrain and qatar?
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Re: Çakır-Alptekin positive? [second scandal erupts]

Postby peach77 » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:38 am

Up to 30 more Turkish athletes positive?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/others ... itive.html

Not a massive shock to anyone, but nice to see the IAAF doing something about it...
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Re: Çakır-Alptekin positive? [second scandal erupts]

Postby Flumpy » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:31 am

I don't really see how they can ban Turkey from the WC's if they don't do the same to the host nation.
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Re: Çakır-Alptekin positive? [second scandal erupts]

Postby 26mi235 » Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:11 am

What, do you really think that. Or is your thinking that it is not consistent to toss Turkey and keep Russia, which is a little different?
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Re: Çakır-Alptekin positive? [second scandal erupts]

Postby MDelano » Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:20 am

Hats off to the IAAF for taking such a pro-active role.
I'm impressed.
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Re: Çakır-Alptekin positive? [second scandal erupts]

Postby eldanielfire » Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:31 am

Flumpy wrote:I don't really see how they can ban Turkey from the WC's if they don't do the same to the host nation.



Doesn't India have the most doping bans? They would have to go first.

The problem with a doping ban on nations (and I'm not against it) s the fact there is a massive inconsistency between doping procedure across nations. It wouldn't be hard at the moment for a to point to how East Africa gets a easy run. Also there would have to be a per capita arguments for some measure of fairness; Russia and the USA have large numbers of suspended athletes, but Jamaica has a higher number on a per capita basis by some way above both.

On top of that, given the recently Daily Mail article there is a large suggestion coaches are doping athletes and it is hard in some case to state the coaches are working for the federation, look how many UK athletes hook up with foreign coaches who have athletes from their own country. Look at the fair number of African sprinters or UK mid-distance runners in America colleges. If they are involved in doping while competing for a foreign body in the collegiate system can the federation take responsibility? Especially if they are yet to represent their country or are passed to represent two countries? Then there are those in two sports e.g. Track and NFL.
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Re: Çakır-Alptekin positive? [second scandal erupts]

Postby Tuariki » Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:39 am

India may have the most but if you looked at it on a pro-rata population basis then Jamaica would have to be banned before India
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Re: Çakır-Alptekin positive? [second scandal erupts]

Postby shivfan » Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:17 am

Tuariki wrote:India may have the most but if you looked at it on a pro-rata population basis then Jamaica would have to be banned before India

That's an unfair comparison....you have to look at how many athletes a country fields in athletics, and work out percentages accordingly. Ghana has a much larger population than Jamaica, but much less Ghanaian athletes are tested than Jamaicans.

Yanit gets a two-year ban, starting this month....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/23870171
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