RIP Stan Musial


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Re: RIP Stan Musial

Postby gh » Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:50 pm

back when it was a badge of shame to walk:

<<Eighteen strikeouts. Pat Burrell had that many in the 2010 NLCS and World Series. Adam Dunn had that many in his first 10 games last season. Jack Cust had that many over a stretch of 26 at-bats in 2008.

Reggie Jackson? He'd strike out 18 times in one nap.

On the other hand, Stan Musial struck out 18 times in 1943.....>>


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Re: RIP Stan Musial

Postby dj » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:56 pm

gh wrote:back when it was a badge of shame to walk:

<<Eighteen strikeouts. Pat Burrell had that many in the 2010 NLCS and World Series. Adam Dunn had that many in his first 10 games last season. Jack Cust had that many over a stretch of 26 at-bats in 2008.

Reggie Jackson? He'd strike out 18 times in one nap.

On the other hand, Stan Musial struck out 18 times in 1943.....>>


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Good stuff, but 1943 was before Musial had developed a power stroke and, as indicated above, strikeouts are often the flip side of homeruns.

Musial had only 18 strikeouts in '43, but he also had only 13 home runs. It wasn't until five years later when Musial first hit 30 homeruns and went on a run of six 30-homer years in an eight year span.

On the other hand, the season best for having more home runs than strikeouts belongs to Tommy Holmes, who had 28 homers with only 9 strikeouts in 1945.

Here's a great chart showing all the seasons in which a player had more homers than strikeouts with a minimum of 20 homers: http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10091
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Re: RIP Stan Musial

Postby Conor Dary » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:09 pm

Interesting how the only recent one is Barry Bonds in 2004. Most HR hitters these days it is either hit a homer or forget it.
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Re: RIP Stan Musial

Postby gh » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:39 pm

I'm a bit surprised to see Big Klu on the list. My boyhood recollection (probably cuz of the big arms and ripped sleeves) was that he was the consummate swing for the fences kind of guy.
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Re: RIP Stan Musial

Postby jazzcyclist » Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:12 pm

Conversely, Reggie Jackson, the most overrated player in history IMO, had fewers hits than strikeouts 11 times, and led the league in strikeouts five times.
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Re: RIP Stan Musial

Postby gh » Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:21 pm

There used to be a saying along the lines of "I'd rather watch Reggie Jackson strike out than see anybody else hit a homer"; I always appreciated his at bats as works of art, even when flawed.
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Re: RIP Stan Musial

Postby DecFan » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:04 am

When Musial died, John Batchelor re-broadcast his excellent interview with George Vecsey, author of the 2011 Musial biography. The interview is great (better, IMHO, than the book).
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Re: RIP Stan Musial

Postby dj » Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:07 am

gh wrote:I'm a bit surprised to see Big Klu on the list. My boyhood recollection (probably cuz of the big arms and ripped sleeves) was that he was the consummate swing for the fences kind of guy.


You and I, both. And you''ll note this was the big surprise to the big time baseball fans who populate the baseball think factory board.
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