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Re: Oscar noms

Postby Dutra5 » Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:45 pm

jeremyp wrote:
gh wrote:My local critic's summation of the awards (not the show)

<<...Before we say goodbye to Sunday night's ceremony, it really should be said that this was a sad day for the academy. Instead of giving best picture to "Lincoln," a masterpiece, or to the innovative "Zero Dark Thirty," or the audacious and inspired "Django Unchained," the academy went back to its old ways and honored something good but unremarkable, Ben Affleck's third-best film, "Argo."

Instead of awarding best actress to Emmanuelle Riva for her searing work in "Amour" or Jessica Chastain for her nuanced, pressure-cooker performance in "Zero Dark Thirty," it gave the prize to pretty, charming Jennifer Lawrence - for being pretty and charming in "Silver Linings Playbook."

And instead of giving best supporting actress to Sally Field or Helen Hunt, who gave performances in complicated roles, in which they had to interact with other actors, the academy honored Anne Hathaway, for singing a song into a camera.

These are more than you-say-potato-I-say potahto expressions of preference. As much as one can tell the day after, these are mistakes people will look at for years to come, embarrassments to history. Together they made Sunday night's Oscars one of the more interesting in recent years, but a little painful to witness.....>>


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/movies/article/Os ... z2LyxQLqKk

Curse these erudite critics for saying what I think but cannot put to words!


Well....I'm really with him on Anne Hathaway who's version of one of the songs in that particular play which needs to be sung properly did so about as poorly as imaginable. She tends to get on my nerves in a general sense anyway.
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Re: Oscar noms

Postby Master Po » Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:37 pm

Nice assessment of the awards, imo. (And I would not have seen it otherwise -- thanks for posting this, gh.)
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Re: Oscar noms

Postby JRM » Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:45 pm

We just saw Argo last night (pay-per-view -- that's what happens when you have a 3-year-old...). I must say, at first I was surprised that a film could win best picture while purporting to depict a "true story", yet hardly contain any factual elements. Even the state of the Hollywood sign wasn't accurate to that year. But after thinking about it, that's probably what made this a Best Picture contender...

Personally, I thought Seth MacFarlane was the best part of the Oscars (but I'm a Family Guy fan).
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Re: Oscar noms

Postby gh » Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:51 pm

I like Family Guy a lot, but MacFarlane was a disgusting pig on this one. Felt like I'd been whisked into a '60s frat party.

to wit

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/c ... night.html
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Re: Oscar noms

Postby Conor Dary » Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:24 am

Doesn't look like I missed anything not watching.
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Re: Oscar noms

Postby Marlow » Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:40 am

gh wrote:I like Family Guy a lot, but MacFarlane was a disgusting pig on this one. Felt like I'd been whisked into a '60s frat party.
to wit
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/c ... night.html

This is pertinent:

The song was part of a larger skit whose premise was that William Shatner, as Captain Kirk, sends MacFarlane a message from the future about the dumb things he might do while hosting the Oscars. But that premise is not an excuse.


The premise WAS the excuse. Does this writer think McFarlane came up with this skit and his own jokes? There's a whole staff that works on it. This is the OSCAR PEOPLE doing this. Don't shoot the messenger!!
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Re: Oscar noms

Postby bad hammy » Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:35 am

JRM wrote:Personally, I thought Seth MacFarlane was the best part of the Oscars (but I'm a Family Guy fan).

Up until the morning of the Oscars I had never heard of Seth MacFarlane (never watched Family Guy obviously) but I agree - I thought he was (for the most part **) hilarious. Was laughing out loud regularly, as was Ms. Hammy. Would love to see him host it again. On the other hand, hammy's sister and brother in law turned the show off after 20 minutes because of him. Takes all kinds . . .



** The 'I saw your boobs' bit was not one of the hilarious bits if you ask me.
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Re: Oscar noms

Postby JRM » Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:41 am

Marlow wrote:
The New Yorker wrote:The song was part of a larger skit whose premise was that William Shatner, as Captain Kirk, sends MacFarlane a message from the future about the dumb things he might do while hosting the Oscars. But that premise is not an excuse.


The premise WAS the excuse. Does this writer think McFarlane came up with this skit and his own jokes? There's a whole staff that works on it. This is the OSCAR PEOPLE doing this. Don't shoot the messenger!!


Absolutely agree. As he first launched into his bland monologue, my wife and I both looked at each other and said "This isn't very funny." Then the Shatner/Kirk thing started, and we realized it was part of the schtick. Considering "the song" was preceded by the warning from Kirk that "you're about to sing a song that offends every woman in the audience!", I thought it would be pretty obvious to everyone what was coming. And the staged cut-aways of "offended" actresses were not to be taken seriously. At this point, even my wife said "Now this is funny!"

Seems to me the writer of that article would have preferred an Oscars hosted by Buzz Killington (look it up if you don't know the reference).

When you hire Seth MacFarlane, you know what you're getting. Articles like this remind me of the old parable of the scorpion and the frog. When the frog is shocked at getting stung, the scorpion says "But you knew it's in my nature." Of course, then they both sink to the bottom of the river.... Take the analogy what it's worth.

gh wrote:I like Family Guy a lot, but MacFarlane was a disgusting pig on this one. Felt like I'd been whisked into a '60s frat party.


I fail to see how these are dissimilar! Have you ever seen the "Family Guy Live" clips on the DVDs?
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Re: Oscar noms

Postby lonewolf » Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:45 am

I too was not familiar with Seth MacFarlane or Family Guy prior to The Oscars and only watched snippits while surfing for something better (or maybe it was competing with a basketball game in which I was more interested.)
I thought MacFarlane was refreshingly crude and sophomoric ... and infinitely more entertaining than his predecessors.
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Re: Oscar noms

Postby mcgato » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:47 am

I am familiar with Seth and I like Family Guy, but I thought that he was inappropriate for the telecast. I only watched the early part of the show, and I muted it during the "I Saw Your Boobs" song. I kept it muted for the rest of his opening act. And what the hell was Shatner doing there?

And note that I:
--like Family Guy, as I said
--like boobs (a lot)
--like the original Star Trek, as well as a couple of the Star Trek movies

I think that this schtick would have worked better at a Golden Globes, where most people are drunk, or for the Emmy's which is about TV.

I should also note that I don't usually watch the Oscars, except for the red carpet and the very beginning of the show.

Oh, and I'll also add that I loved Jennifer Lawrence's press conference after her win.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLKZb1wLmAY
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Re: Oscar noms

Postby batonless relay » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:56 am

gh wrote:I like Family Guy a lot, but MacFarlane was a disgusting pig on this one. Felt like I'd been whisked into a '60s frat party.

to wit

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/c ... night.html

just read the newyorker article and i completely agree that McFarlane was a pig (but shouldn't the academy have known?). It doesn't matter how many "token non-offended's" you plant to get the joke, sometimes even comedy and/or satire can go too far. Something The Onion hopefully learned with the Wallis tweet.
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Re: Oscar noms

Postby Dutra5 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:39 pm

I thought McFarlane a mixed bag, the opening too long and I couldn't for the life of me figure out what William Shatner was doing there but.....

....I also thought the show in its entirety was as entertaining an Oscar show as there's been.
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Re: Oscar noms

Postby jeremyp » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:26 pm

JRM wrote:We just saw Argo last night (pay-per-view -- that's what happens when you have a 3-year-old...). I must say, at first I was surprised that a film could win best picture while purporting to depict a "true story", yet hardly contain any factual elements. Even the state of the Hollywood sign wasn't accurate to that year. But after thinking about it, that's probably what made this a Best Picture contender...

Didn't: "The King's Speech"; "A Beautiful Mind"; "Braveheart"; Schindler's List"; "Patton"; Lawrence Of Arabia"; "The Ten Commandments" also win?
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Re: Oscar noms

Postby JRM » Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:10 pm

Dutra5 wrote:I thought McFarlane a mixed bag, the opening too long and I couldn't for the life of me figure out what William Shatner was doing there but.....


MacFarlane is a huge Trekkie. I thought it was well-played -- except Shatner has seen better days...
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Re: Oscar noms

Postby Marlow » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:31 pm

mcgato wrote: what the hell was Shatner doing there?

Dutra5 wrote:I couldn't for the life of me figure out what William Shatner was doing there but.....

The gag was that Capt Kirk, who regularly resides in the 23rd Century, came back in time to warn McFarlane that he was about to become "worst Oscars host EVER" for his tasteless skits, which he then 'replayed'. Get it?
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