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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby scottmitchell74 » Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:26 am

Sevendutst is a fine band. Here's a quick cross-section of my favorite styles:

Blind Guardian (Germany) "Euro" Power Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AfNOKQdY-U

Cage (USA) "American" Power Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT7qIc5VXQg

Antestor (Norway) Black Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT7qIc5VXQg

Mortification (Australia) Death Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=194oXgDULCg

Tyr (Faroe Islands) Viking Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRKqd4CLSmI

Warbeast (USA) - Thrash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVSyIWIfqlw

Crescent Shield (USA) "Traditional" Heavy Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx0zuanWrRw


There are SO many bands out there. This short list is painfully limited, but it gives one an idea what I'm into and what's out there.
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby Peter Michaelson » Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:22 pm

To tandfman:

Check out this "non-musician" in a different genre:

http://youtu.be/mub-gyuPFlw


Also, check out the "non-music" from 2:30 to 3:49:

http://youtu.be/r2S1I_ien6A
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby Peter Michaelson » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:32 pm

Sorry, thought the "non-music" portion on the second selection was longer. Try this one:

http://youtu.be/BZ5B7yqDYbA

Or this one:

http://youtu.be/C1xeb125iaI

which is based on this music:

http://youtu.be/hr21HgBDQOk
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby Marlow » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:59 pm

Power Metal
Black Metal
Death Metal
Viking Metal
Thrash
Heavy Metal

Jeez, I feel so wimpy listening to this kind of crap:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZobyPqMZ-I

:P
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby gh » Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:01 pm

scottmitchell74 wrote:....

Cage (USA) "American" Power Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT7qIc5VXQg

Antestor (Norway) Black Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT7qIc5VXQg

.....


No wonder critics say all metal sounds the same.... it is the same!!! :mrgreen: (dupe URL)
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby cullman » Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:57 pm

Metal is varied and nuanced. Perhaps it sounds the same to the untrained ear...OK, I'm lying.

Hey, Alestorm is coming to my hometown (Vancouver) this weekend and hits San Francisco on the 14th.
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby tandfman » Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:33 am

As long as everyone is posting links to music on YouTube, I'll add this to the thread:

http://youtu.be/lXKDu6cdXLI

Isn't it nice when music is played before an appreciative audience! :)
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby gh » Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:49 am

After going to a Leonard Cohen concert last night (two 1.5-hour sets at age 78!), I'm reminded that he's right up there with Dylan as a poet.

Oh, and what a voice! (although some would construe it as lack thereof)
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby scottmitchell74 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:26 pm

Jeez, I feel so wimpy listening to this kind of crap:


I mentioned that Im 95% metal, which is true, but my other 5% is pretty varied and includes;

CCR
The Cranberries
4 Non Blondes
Hank Sr.
The Jackson 5
Jimi Hendrix

And a few others along those lines
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby gh » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:31 pm

in recent years I've drifted away from metal a bit and now am a devotée of Celtic punk (although I not means consider myself any kind of particular guru of the genre).

I can listen to Flogging Molly, the Real McKenzies and the Dropkick Murphys endlessly. (even if it costs me another marriage :mrgreen: )
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby Bruce Kritzler » Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:18 pm

How about the Pogues?
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby 26mi235 » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:53 pm

A couple others that I think of are also women: Natalie Merchant (10,000 Maniacs, then solo) and Nancy Griffith.
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby 26mi235 » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:56 pm

gh wrote:After going to a Leonard Cohen concert last night (two 1.5-hour sets at age 78!), I'm reminded that he's right up there with Dylan as a poet.

Oh, and what a voice! (although some would construe it as lack thereof)


I have always liked Leonard Cohen (when I was growing up we had a album or two from him, circa 1960). I think his recordings of late are a little too late for even his voice, however, and I prefer ones from at least the 1990s.
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby Dutra5 » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:31 pm

aaronk wrote:
TN1965 wrote:
SQUACKEE wrote:
TN1965 wrote:And there have been plenty of great singer-songwriters in the last 20 years, just like in 60s and 70s. While it is true that you have to search for them, it is also far easier to search today compared to '60s and '70s.


In my experience not remotely true, I still say singer/song writers is today mostly a lost art.


Then that means you are not searching hard enough. And that's okay. You don't have to.


Three "singer-songwriters" (though they all play with back-up bands!) of the past 20 years....all women....are....

Alanis Morissette (Had MEGA-best selling CD --Jagged Little Pill--in 1995, and several CD's since. Writes mainly of love gone bad....with anger and retribution in her stark and eloquent lyrics.

Sheryl Crow has been around since the early 90's, I believe, and is fairly well known. She, IMO, has had a hit-or-miss career....and was once intimately aligned with Lance Armstrong!! My favorite song of hers is "Everyday is a Winding Road"....and I love the CD that song was on.

The third is Lucinda Williams...now close to 60 years old (57 or 58??)...whose biggest selling CD was "Car Wheels On a Gravel Road"!! There's a great 2-disc CD of a live concert she played at the Fillmore in SF in the late 90's!! A must....it includes versions of most of her "greatest hits" from the 90's. Her latest CD came out earlier this year.


Conor Oberts (Bright Eyes), Adele, David Gray, Taylor Swift, Jewel, Amy Winehouse, Norah Jones, Ryan Adams, Tori Amos, Matt Nathanson and a boatload of others.

The issue isn't that singer songwriters aren't around. It's that the music industry is so fractured in the presentation that we are basically limited to our own soundtrack.
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby rhymans » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:00 am

gh - is flogging molly a group or a euphemism?
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby skiboo » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:54 am

tandfman wrote:
JayIsMe wrote: I've got no beef against rap- it's just a different form and a lot of the lyric is really clever- but there's no melody to the 'music' anymore.

To me, that means it's not music.


I always thought rap was the "music" that lost a letter.
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby skiboo » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:58 am

bad hammy wrote:I'm reminded of the joke about how they came up with a new form of music that combines country with rap and called it crap . . .


Didn't see your post prior to mine above.
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby rsb2 » Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:05 pm

skiboo wrote:
bad hammy wrote:I'm reminded of the joke about how they came up with a new form of music that combines country with rap and called it crap . . .


Didn't see your post prior to mine above.


If you can't find something to like within the length and breadth of "country" music, you need counselling, or perhaps you are beyond help!
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby Marlow » Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:01 pm

rsb2 wrote:If you can't find something to like within the length and breadth of "country" music, you need counselling, or perhaps you are beyond help!

Where and when it intersects pop/rock, I like it, but REAL country music? Not so much. When I'm flipping stations in the car, as soon as I hear a fiddle or a whiny slide guitar (as opposed to what Eddie or Keith can do), or 'my dog, Blue', I'm outta there!! :twisted:
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby kuha » Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:28 pm

On this general subject, anyone who doesn't know about & use allmusic.com is really missing out. An amazing resource.
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby rsb2 » Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:42 pm

Dr. Marlow, I presume, of course musical appreciation has a considerable subjective element attached. But, just to gently joust, you could listen to country music for many hours without a mention of a dog, or a pickup truck for that matter. Also, I would suggest that the best country pickers and players, of whatever instrument, are extremely good and would rank with the best instrumentalists of any genre, regardless of whether You like that particular sound or not... just sayin' !
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby gh » Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:39 pm

heaven is finding a station that plays classic country
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby tandfman » Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:15 am

gh wrote:heaven is finding a station that plays classic country

I wouldn't go that far, but I agree that classic country beats the hybrids.
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby Marlow » Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:20 am

rsb2 wrote:I would suggest that the best country pickers and players, of whatever instrument, are extremely good and would rank with the best instrumentalists of any genre, regardless of whether You like that particular sound or not... just sayin' !

Totally agree. The same could be said, of course, of almost every genre. One of the best musicians I ever saw was playing bluegrass. Cellists to fiddlers, it's all good! :D
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby rsb2 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:51 pm

Thanks - some great music there. And the affiliated links lead to many of the greatest guitar players !
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby no one » Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:38 am

hopefully some tasty snacks

just entertainment - talent I think - we'll see
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fviQQ03fq0I

beatnik mood music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IhqYu8RRlk

somethin about this guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPnOEiehONQ

some more big names here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzePqXEJrBY

more easy blues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx3yXUunEq8

plain ol slow pace R&R - listen for piano and horn section -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUv-4dNX6Jw

lou - garage band goes new york fm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FdWPeHFAMk

pipes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJv4KiPJkcs

rock plays classic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZVebSr-MFM

I like this version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1Odigi-IYA

easy listnin and not a bad video either
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1Odigi-IYA

okay - I'm done .... for now?
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby lovetorun » Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:18 pm

Lots of good discussion re: music preferences in this thread...but I have to say it's interesting (and slightly frustrating to me) that, except for the first of 86 responses, no one really addressed the thesis of my post!
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby rsb2 » Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:55 pm

Still dodging your question (not really :), but just watching a PBS show called "Folk Rewind", 2 hours reviewing 1960's folk music, and really enjoying it !
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby gh » Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:20 pm

scottmitchell74 wrote:Sevendutst is a fine band. Here's a quick cross-section of my favorite styles:

Blind Guardian (Germany) "Euro" Power Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AfNOKQdY-U

Cage (USA) "American" Power Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT7qIc5VXQg

Antestor (Norway) Black Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT7qIc5VXQg

Mortification (Australia) Death Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=194oXgDULCg

Tyr (Faroe Islands) Viking Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRKqd4CLSmI

Warbeast (USA) - Thrash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVSyIWIfqlw

Crescent Shield (USA) "Traditional" Heavy Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx0zuanWrRw


There are SO many bands out there. This short list is painfully limited, but it gives one an idea what I'm into and what's out there.


And the ultimate Xmas song: Jingle Bells by Austrian Death Machine !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MntZ2oPDPnM
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby Marlow » Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:53 am

lovetorun wrote:Lots of good discussion re: music preferences in this thread...but I have to say it's interesting (and slightly frustrating to me) that, except for the first of 86 responses, no one really addressed the thesis of my post!

To wit:
lovetorun wrote:the 1960's and 70's produced the greatest music.

By and large, we are all stuck in the music of our teens and 20s, and since the 60s-70s represent exactly that to me, of course I agree. But what you're reading in this thread is that not everyone is a Baby Boomer with post-50s/pre-90s (I love the 80s stuff too) predilections. As it should be.
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby tandfman » Tue Dec 25, 2012 7:52 am

Marlow wrote:By and large, we are all stuck in the music of our teens and 20s

That's probably true, but at some point some of us find music that is timeless. I was very, very much into the popular music of my time until about when I was 15. At that point, I discovered classical music. Then about 6-7 years later, I discovered opera. I've listened to almost nothing else since. I think classical jazz may be a similar genre that can hook anyone, regardless of age or generation.
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby kuha » Tue Dec 25, 2012 8:16 am

Marlow wrote:By and large, we are all stuck in the music of our teens and 20s


This is largely, but not entirely true. It is clear that we are strongly SHAPED by what was current when we "came of age" mentally. There's no getting around that. However, there is never any need to STOP there, and many folks obviously do not. I certainly agree that there is a "comfort factor" with the music that was hip when I was 14 to 20 years of age. However, as others have stated, any larger interest in music will (or "should") lead to many more discoveries--including the vitality of what's happening NOW and the "timeless" appeal of classical, jazz, opera, and any number of other great genres. It's the sheer variety & quality of any/all of this that is so exciting.
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby Conor Dary » Tue Dec 25, 2012 9:29 am

kuha wrote:
Marlow wrote:By and large, we are all stuck in the music of our teens and 20s


This is largely, but not entirely true. It is clear that we are strongly SHAPED by what was current when we "came of age" mentally. There's no getting around that. However, there is never any need to STOP there, and many folks obviously do not. I certainly agree that there is a "comfort factor" with the music that was hip when I was 14 to 20 years of age. However, as others have stated, any larger interest in music will (or "should") lead to many more discoveries--including the vitality of what's happening NOW and the "timeless" appeal of classical, jazz, opera, and any number of other great genres. It's the sheer variety & quality of any/all of this that is so exciting.


How true. As tandfman notes, you get introduced to new music like classical, jazz and the Ring, stuff I never listened to much when I was a teenager. It is like saying the friends you are stuck with for life are the ones had when you were 20.
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby Marlow » Tue Dec 25, 2012 2:30 pm

Conor Dary wrote:the "timeless" appeal of classical, jazz, opera, and any number of other great genres. It's the sheer variety & quality of any/all of this that is so exciting.

I guess I suffer from severe aesthetic arrested development, because in college I tried to cultivate an appreciation for all three and failed miserably, primarily because none of them have given me the visceral effect that classic rock does. Rock . . . rocks me like nothing else . . . my father listened to swing and jazz, my mom listened to classical, folk and contemporary pop (Sinatra, etc. ), but all of that leaves me cold. C'est la vie.

On the other hand, I love this, which is classical, pop and jazz!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLTJ2ykad-k
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby Pego » Tue Dec 25, 2012 3:17 pm

tandfman wrote:
Marlow wrote:By and large, we are all stuck in the music of our teens and 20s

That's probably true, but at some point some of us find music that is timeless. I was very, very much into the popular music of my time until about when I was 15. At that point, I discovered classical music. Then about 6-7 years later, I discovered opera. I've listened to almost nothing else since. I think classical jazz may be a similar genre that can hook anyone, regardless of age or generation.


Yes, for me it is classical, opera and classical jazz.
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby kuha » Tue Dec 25, 2012 3:36 pm

Marlow wrote:I guess I suffer from severe aesthetic arrested development, because in college I tried to cultivate an appreciation for all three and failed miserably, primarily because none of them have given me the visceral effect that classic rock does.


That may be just fine. No one HAS to like everything, obviously! Our larger point is that tastes can grow/evolve with age. You're not the same person now that you were in college--right?. Is your taste in other things (food; movies; books; whatever) the same as it was then? I hope the answer is no!
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby Marlow » Tue Dec 25, 2012 3:59 pm

kuha wrote:You're not the same person now that you were in college--right?. Is your taste in other things (food; movies; books; whatever) the same as it was then? I hope the answer is no!

If you mean - have I grown up? Absolutely not! Exhibit A: my taste in in food, movies, TV, etc., has not 'evolved' at all! My only 'improvement' is my ability to fully appreciate the simplest things in life like family, friends and TRACK & FIELD!!!!! :D
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby Marlow » Tue Dec 25, 2012 3:59 pm

Oops - dupe! :oops:
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Re: Music: the greatest generation.

Postby kuha » Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:02 pm

OK; so now we have our answer! (Twice!)
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