Music: the greatest generation.

[no one]

Never been there

Never been to Spain, but I kinda like the ....

[DrJay]

There are great bands and there is great music to enjoy in every decade. Unless your ears are closed to new experiences or your habit so ingrained, and your imagination so inhibited, you cannot not listen to your personal favorite oldies.

It's totally true. All it takes is interest enough to do a little searching and then simply listening.

The only difference is that now you have to search. Back then it came to you, like it or not. Now all that comes to you is Justin Bieber and other musical blather.

[SQUACKEE]

What the 60-70'd had that you dont see much anymore is singer-songwriters. Great artists who write, play and sing their own music and in the process create masterpieces.

If I had to guess the score between then and now in this category it would be a 100 to one?

[kuha]

What the 60-70'd had that you dont see much anymore is singer-songwriters. Great artists who write, play and sing their own music and in the process create masterpieces.

If I had to guess the score between then and now in this category it would be a 100 to one?

But you absolutely do see this in the vibrant level of activity just below the upper "pop" crust of the music biz. The problem is in defining "masterpieces" as, say, the Beatles' catalogue. For a variety of reasons, that era--that is, truly original material, in huge quantity, played on every radio station and known to everyone of the day--is probably gone. But that's more a matter of the dynamics of the marketplace and the audience than of any lack of present-day creativity.

[TN1965]

What the 60-70'd had that you dont see much anymore is singer-songwriters. Great artists who write, play and sing their own music and in the process create masterpieces.

If I had to guess the score between then and now in this category it would be a 100 to one?

If you mean 1960-79, then you have to compare that to a 20 year span up to today. (1993-2012)

And there have been plenty of great singer-songwriters in the last 20 years, just like in 60s and 70s. While it is true that you have to search for them, it is also far easier to search today compared to '60s and '70s.

[Vielleicht]

ok, outdoor food market in China.

Never been there, but yes, I can imagine that the collision of aromas is overwhelming.

You bet!
Incidentally, Renoir, death metal, barbecue.

[SQUACKEE]

What the 60-70'd had that you dont see much anymore is singer-songwriters. Great artists who write, play and sing their own music and in the process create masterpieces.

If I had to guess the score between then and now in this category it would be a 100 to one?

If you mean 1960-79, then you have to compare that to a 20 year span up to today. (1993-2012)

And there have been plenty of great singer-songwriters in the last 20 years, just like in 60s and 70s. While it is true that you have to search for them, it is also far easier to search today compared to '60s and '70s.

In my experience not remotely true, I still say singer/song writers is today mostly a lost art.

[TN1965]

And there have been plenty of great singer-songwriters in the last 20 years, just like in 60s and 70s. While it is true that you have to search for them, it is also far easier to search today compared to '60s and '70s.

In my experience not remotely true, I still say singer/song writers is today mostly a lost art.

Then that means you are not searching hard enough. And that's okay. You don't have to.

[scottmitchell74]

I'd say 95% of what I listen to would be classified as Heavy Metal...all the way from Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Metallica (aka bands this board might have heard of) to all kinds of Metal from the 90s,00s, and continuing - Thrash, Death, Black, Power, Traditional, Viking/Folk, etc...metal Every year I'm amazed at the new bands and new albums from old bands that come out and blow me away. The best time is...now!

[gh]

I'm right there head banging with you. One of only two CDs I carry around in my car is Metallica's And Justice For All, which after 25-odd years of use must be reaching the end of its life.

For a sub-genre, I very much like Pirate Metal (Alestorm and the like).

One of the great track moments ever was when the greatest Metallica cover band of all time, Apocalyptica, played at the opening ceremonies of the '05 World Championships in Helsinki.

ps--the other CD is Beethoven's 9th

[Marlow]

For a sub-genre, I very much like Pirate Metal (Alestorm and the like).

Made me look
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta-Z_psXODw

If I didn't think you weren't kidding, I would have seriously thought that to be a joke . . .

[scottmitchell74]

For a sub-genre, I very much like Pirate Metal (Alestorm and the like).

Now we're talking!!! I have their first album and their most recent! Great band, very tongue-in-cheek lyrically, but serious musically.

Color me pleasantly surprised, gh.

[aaronk]

And there have been plenty of great singer-songwriters in the last 20 years, just like in 60s and 70s. While it is true that you have to search for them, it is also far easier to search today compared to '60s and '70s.

In my experience not remotely true, I still say singer/song writers is today mostly a lost art.

Then that means you are not searching hard enough. And that's okay. You don't have to.

Three "singer-songwriters" (though they all play with back-up bands!) of the past 20 years....all women....are....

Alanis Morissette (Had MEGA-best selling CD --Jagged Little Pill--in 1995, and several CD's since. Writes mainly of love gone bad....with anger and retribution in her stark and eloquent lyrics.

Sheryl Crow has been around since the early 90's, I believe, and is fairly well known. She, IMO, has had a hit-or-miss career....and was once intimately aligned with Lance Armstrong!! My favorite song of hers is "Everyday is a Winding Road"....and I love the CD that song was on.

The third is Lucinda Williams...now close to 60 years old (57 or 58??)...whose biggest selling CD was "Car Wheels On a Gravel Road"!! There's a great 2-disc CD of a live concert she played at the Fillmore in SF in the late 90's!! A must....it includes versions of most of her "greatest hits" from the 90's. Her latest CD came out earlier this year.

[gh]

For a sub-genre, I very much like Pirate Metal (Alestorm and the like).

Made me look
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta-Z_psXODw

If I didn't think you weren't kidding, I would have seriously thought that to be a joke . . .

better example of their craft

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggyC0FOz ... ure=fvwrel

[gh]

I'd say 95% of what I listen to would be classified as Heavy Metal...all the way from Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Metallica (aka bands this board might have heard of) to all kinds of Metal from the 90s,00s, and continuing - Thrash, Death, Black, Power, Traditional, Viking/Folk, etc...metal Every year I'm amazed at the new bands and new albums from old bands that come out and blow me away. The best time is...now!

how about Sevendust?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff2JkINXTmM

[scottmitchell74]

Sevendutst is a fine band. Here's a quick cross-section of my favorite styles:

Blind Guardian (Germany) "Euro" Power Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AfNOKQdY-U

Cage (USA) "American" Power Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT7qIc5VXQg

Antestor (Norway) Black Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT7qIc5VXQg

Mortification (Australia) Death Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=194oXgDULCg

Tyr (Faroe Islands) Viking Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRKqd4CLSmI

Warbeast (USA) - Thrash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVSyIWIfqlw

Crescent Shield (USA) "Traditional" Heavy Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx0zuanWrRw


There are SO many bands out there. This short list is painfully limited, but it gives one an idea what I'm into and what's out there.

[Peter Michaelson]

To tandfman:

Check out this "non-musician" in a different genre:

http://youtu.be/mub-gyuPFlw


Also, check out the "non-music" from 2:30 to 3:49:

http://youtu.be/r2S1I_ien6A

[Peter Michaelson]

Sorry, thought the "non-music" portion on the second selection was longer. Try this one:

http://youtu.be/BZ5B7yqDYbA

Or this one:

http://youtu.be/C1xeb125iaI

which is based on this music:

http://youtu.be/hr21HgBDQOk

[Marlow]

Power Metal
Black Metal
Death Metal
Viking Metal
Thrash
Heavy Metal

Jeez, I feel so wimpy listening to this kind of crap:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZobyPqMZ-I

[gh]

....

Cage (USA) "American" Power Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT7qIc5VXQg

Antestor (Norway) Black Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT7qIc5VXQg

.....

No wonder critics say all metal sounds the same.... it is the same!!! (dupe URL)

[cullman]

Metal is varied and nuanced. Perhaps it sounds the same to the untrained ear...OK, I'm lying.

Hey, Alestorm is coming to my hometown (Vancouver) this weekend and hits San Francisco on the 14th.

[tandfman]

As long as everyone is posting links to music on YouTube, I'll add this to the thread:

http://youtu.be/lXKDu6cdXLI

Isn't it nice when music is played before an appreciative audience!

[gh]

After going to a Leonard Cohen concert last night (two 1.5-hour sets at age 78!), I'm reminded that he's right up there with Dylan as a poet.

Oh, and what a voice! (although some would construe it as lack thereof)

[scottmitchell74]

Jeez, I feel so wimpy listening to this kind of crap:

I mentioned that Im 95% metal, which is true, but my other 5% is pretty varied and includes;

CCR
The Cranberries
4 Non Blondes
Hank Sr.
The Jackson 5
Jimi Hendrix

And a few others along those lines

[gh]

in recent years I've drifted away from metal a bit and now am a devotée of Celtic punk (although I not means consider myself any kind of particular guru of the genre).

I can listen to Flogging Molly, the Real McKenzies and the Dropkick Murphys endlessly. (even if it costs me another marriage )

[Bruce Kritzler]

How about the Pogues?

[26mi235]

A couple others that I think of are also women: Natalie Merchant (10,000 Maniacs, then solo) and Nancy Griffith.

[26mi235]

After going to a Leonard Cohen concert last night (two 1.5-hour sets at age 78!), I'm reminded that he's right up there with Dylan as a poet.

Oh, and what a voice! (although some would construe it as lack thereof)

I have always liked Leonard Cohen (when I was growing up we had a album or two from him, circa 1960). I think his recordings of late are a little too late for even his voice, however, and I prefer ones from at least the 1990s.

[Dutra5]

And there have been plenty of great singer-songwriters in the last 20 years, just like in 60s and 70s. While it is true that you have to search for them, it is also far easier to search today compared to '60s and '70s.

In my experience not remotely true, I still say singer/song writers is today mostly a lost art.

Then that means you are not searching hard enough. And that's okay. You don't have to.

Three "singer-songwriters" (though they all play with back-up bands!) of the past 20 years....all women....are....

Alanis Morissette (Had MEGA-best selling CD --Jagged Little Pill--in 1995, and several CD's since. Writes mainly of love gone bad....with anger and retribution in her stark and eloquent lyrics.

Sheryl Crow has been around since the early 90's, I believe, and is fairly well known. She, IMO, has had a hit-or-miss career....and was once intimately aligned with Lance Armstrong!! My favorite song of hers is "Everyday is a Winding Road"....and I love the CD that song was on.

The third is Lucinda Williams...now close to 60 years old (57 or 58??)...whose biggest selling CD was "Car Wheels On a Gravel Road"!! There's a great 2-disc CD of a live concert she played at the Fillmore in SF in the late 90's!! A must....it includes versions of most of her "greatest hits" from the 90's. Her latest CD came out earlier this year.

Conor Oberts (Bright Eyes), Adele, David Gray, Taylor Swift, Jewel, Amy Winehouse, Norah Jones, Ryan Adams, Tori Amos, Matt Nathanson and a boatload of others.

The issue isn't that singer songwriters aren't around. It's that the music industry is so fractured in the presentation that we are basically limited to our own soundtrack.

[rhymans]

gh - is flogging molly a group or a euphemism?

[skiboo]

I've got no beef against rap- it's just a different form and a lot of the lyric is really clever- but there's no melody to the 'music' anymore.

To me, that means it's not music.

I always thought rap was the "music" that lost a letter.

[skiboo]

I'm reminded of the joke about how they came up with a new form of music that combines country with rap and called it crap . . .

Didn't see your post prior to mine above.

[rsb2]

I'm reminded of the joke about how they came up with a new form of music that combines country with rap and called it crap . . .

Didn't see your post prior to mine above.

If you can't find something to like within the length and breadth of "country" music, you need counselling, or perhaps you are beyond help!

[Marlow]

If you can't find something to like within the length and breadth of "country" music, you need counselling, or perhaps you are beyond help!

Where and when it intersects pop/rock, I like it, but REAL country music? Not so much. When I'm flipping stations in the car, as soon as I hear a fiddle or a whiny slide guitar (as opposed to what Eddie or Keith can do), or 'my dog, Blue', I'm outta there!!

[kuha]

On this general subject, anyone who doesn't know about & use allmusic.com is really missing out. An amazing resource.