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Pego wrote:My concept of hell is being locked in a room painted by DeKooning, listening to rap, with a smell of Subway.
Ooooh - fun game: my hell is being locked in a room with (painter), (music genre), (restaurant smell).
preston wrote:Pollock, bluegrass or acid rock, pig farm
Ha! I imagine few us choose to eat at a pig farm.
Marlow, I didn't follow you because I believe you got it wrong. I don't believe that Pego meant the restaurant; I believe he meant the underground travel medium (and the general nausea it can ellicit). Now, you may have known that and changed the "game" to your criteria; however, I made my contrasts in the spirit of Pego not Marlow. You're welcome to switch to follow us; I think ours is better, anyway.
Also, did you notice that "lonewolf" only dealt with the smell and not from where the smell came?
Although I didn't post a reply, if Pego meant the transportation system when he referred to Subway, then I misinterpreted just like Marlow did... The fact that he capitalized the word "Subway", which usually wouldn't have been capitalized if he was referring to a general means of transportation, made me think that Pego meant the sandwich chain...
Back to the thread topic...I'd also add to my 1970's favorites, America...the soft rock group...had a unigue sound and some great songs. Also agree with Tafnut...that rap isn't music.
marknhj wrote:There are great bands and there is great music to enjoy in every decade. Unless your ears are closed to new experiences or your habit so ingrained, and your imagination so inhibited, you cannot not listen to your personal favorite oldies.
It's totally true. All it takes is interest enough to do a little searching and then simply listening.
The only difference is that now you have to search. Back then it came to you, like it or not. Now all that comes to you is Justin Bieber and other musical blather.
What the 60-70'd had that you dont see much anymore is singer-songwriters. Great artists who write, play and sing their own music and in the process create masterpieces.
If I had to guess the score between then and now in this category it would be a 100 to one?
SQUACKEE wrote:What the 60-70'd had that you dont see much anymore is singer-songwriters. Great artists who write, play and sing their own music and in the process create masterpieces.
If I had to guess the score between then and now in this category it would be a 100 to one?
But you absolutely do see this in the vibrant level of activity just below the upper "pop" crust of the music biz. The problem is in defining "masterpieces" as, say, the Beatles' catalogue. For a variety of reasons, that era--that is, truly original material, in huge quantity, played on every radio station and known to everyone of the day--is probably gone. But that's more a matter of the dynamics of the marketplace and the audience than of any lack of present-day creativity.
SQUACKEE wrote:What the 60-70'd had that you dont see much anymore is singer-songwriters. Great artists who write, play and sing their own music and in the process create masterpieces.
If I had to guess the score between then and now in this category it would be a 100 to one?
If you mean 1960-79, then you have to compare that to a 20 year span up to today. (1993-2012)
And there have been plenty of great singer-songwriters in the last 20 years, just like in 60s and 70s. While it is true that you have to search for them, it is also far easier to search today compared to '60s and '70s.
SQUACKEE wrote:What the 60-70'd had that you dont see much anymore is singer-songwriters. Great artists who write, play and sing their own music and in the process create masterpieces.
If I had to guess the score between then and now in this category it would be a 100 to one?
If you mean 1960-79, then you have to compare that to a 20 year span up to today. (1993-2012)
And there have been plenty of great singer-songwriters in the last 20 years, just like in 60s and 70s. While it is true that you have to search for them, it is also far easier to search today compared to '60s and '70s.
In my experience not remotely true, I still say singer/song writers is today mostly a lost art.
TN1965 wrote:And there have been plenty of great singer-songwriters in the last 20 years, just like in 60s and 70s. While it is true that you have to search for them, it is also far easier to search today compared to '60s and '70s.
In my experience not remotely true, I still say singer/song writers is today mostly a lost art.
Then that means you are not searching hard enough. And that's okay. You don't have to.
I'd say 95% of what I listen to would be classified as Heavy Metal...all the way from Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Metallica (aka bands this board might have heard of) to all kinds of Metal from the 90s,00s, and continuing - Thrash, Death, Black, Power, Traditional, Viking/Folk, etc...metal Every year I'm amazed at the new bands and new albums from old bands that come out and blow me away. The best time is...now!
I'm right there head banging with you. One of only two CDs I carry around in my car is Metallica's And Justice For All, which after 25-odd years of use must be reaching the end of its life.
For a sub-genre, I very much like Pirate Metal (Alestorm and the like).
One of the great track moments ever was when the greatest Metallica cover band of all time, Apocalyptica, played at the opening ceremonies of the '05 World Championships in Helsinki.
TN1965 wrote:And there have been plenty of great singer-songwriters in the last 20 years, just like in 60s and 70s. While it is true that you have to search for them, it is also far easier to search today compared to '60s and '70s.
In my experience not remotely true, I still say singer/song writers is today mostly a lost art.
Then that means you are not searching hard enough. And that's okay. You don't have to.
Three "singer-songwriters" (though they all play with back-up bands!) of the past 20 years....all women....are....
Alanis Morissette (Had MEGA-best selling CD --Jagged Little Pill--in 1995, and several CD's since. Writes mainly of love gone bad....with anger and retribution in her stark and eloquent lyrics.
Sheryl Crow has been around since the early 90's, I believe, and is fairly well known. She, IMO, has had a hit-or-miss career....and was once intimately aligned with Lance Armstrong!! My favorite song of hers is "Everyday is a Winding Road"....and I love the CD that song was on.
The third is Lucinda Williams...now close to 60 years old (57 or 58??)...whose biggest selling CD was "Car Wheels On a Gravel Road"!! There's a great 2-disc CD of a live concert she played at the Fillmore in SF in the late 90's!! A must....it includes versions of most of her "greatest hits" from the 90's. Her latest CD came out earlier this year.
scottmitchell74 wrote:I'd say 95% of what I listen to would be classified as Heavy Metal...all the way from Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Metallica (aka bands this board might have heard of) to all kinds of Metal from the 90s,00s, and continuing - Thrash, Death, Black, Power, Traditional, Viking/Folk, etc...metal Every year I'm amazed at the new bands and new albums from old bands that come out and blow me away. The best time is...now!
in recent years I've drifted away from metal a bit and now am a devotée of Celtic punk (although I not means consider myself any kind of particular guru of the genre).
I can listen to Flogging Molly, the Real McKenzies and the Dropkick Murphys endlessly. (even if it costs me another marriage )
gh wrote:After going to a Leonard Cohen concert last night (two 1.5-hour sets at age 78!), I'm reminded that he's right up there with Dylan as a poet.
Oh, and what a voice! (although some would construe it as lack thereof)
I have always liked Leonard Cohen (when I was growing up we had a album or two from him, circa 1960). I think his recordings of late are a little too late for even his voice, however, and I prefer ones from at least the 1990s.
TN1965 wrote:And there have been plenty of great singer-songwriters in the last 20 years, just like in 60s and 70s. While it is true that you have to search for them, it is also far easier to search today compared to '60s and '70s.
In my experience not remotely true, I still say singer/song writers is today mostly a lost art.
Then that means you are not searching hard enough. And that's okay. You don't have to.
Three "singer-songwriters" (though they all play with back-up bands!) of the past 20 years....all women....are....
Alanis Morissette (Had MEGA-best selling CD --Jagged Little Pill--in 1995, and several CD's since. Writes mainly of love gone bad....with anger and retribution in her stark and eloquent lyrics.
Sheryl Crow has been around since the early 90's, I believe, and is fairly well known. She, IMO, has had a hit-or-miss career....and was once intimately aligned with Lance Armstrong!! My favorite song of hers is "Everyday is a Winding Road"....and I love the CD that song was on.
The third is Lucinda Williams...now close to 60 years old (57 or 58??)...whose biggest selling CD was "Car Wheels On a Gravel Road"!! There's a great 2-disc CD of a live concert she played at the Fillmore in SF in the late 90's!! A must....it includes versions of most of her "greatest hits" from the 90's. Her latest CD came out earlier this year.
Conor Oberts (Bright Eyes), Adele, David Gray, Taylor Swift, Jewel, Amy Winehouse, Norah Jones, Ryan Adams, Tori Amos, Matt Nathanson and a boatload of others.
The issue isn't that singer songwriters aren't around. It's that the music industry is so fractured in the presentation that we are basically limited to our own soundtrack.
. No rules to this game, though. What is hell for you is all that matters.
