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guru wrote:Looks like Obama will win, while losing popular vote - 1st president re-elected as such. Prepare for more Washington gridlock the next four years.
If the Republican House persists in the notion that they will deny Obama a "second term" (i.e. a legacy now), they are rejecting the very premise on which they were elected. Shame on them for being against the interests of their own country.
guru wrote:Looks like Obama will win, while losing popular vote - 1st president re-elected as such. Prepare for more Washington gridlock the next four years.
I doubt this. The places with large vote counts still to come are strongly Democratic (much of Calif.) and eastern cities.
That Romney will win the popular vote is just nutty wishful thinking. Nate Silver has called it right on so far and predicts a 2% Obama win in the popular vote. As for more gridlock well the Bush tax cuts are history, at least for the over 250k group. Obamacare is a fact. A great day.
kuha wrote:This is a gigantic repudiation of the Republican brand.
Hardly. They held the House, and Romney looks like he will win the popular vote.
Don't kid yourself. There is little to comfort the right wing here.
Again, "gigantic repudiation" lists just a tad to the hyperbolic
No, plain and simple. If you prefer the phrase "major repudiation" or "decisive repudiation" then you are welcome to them. The point is that, in this economic climate, with all the energy and money thrown against BO, this win is of really impressive significance.
And it leaves very little room for right-wing chest thumping of any kind.
kuha wrote:This is a gigantic repudiation of the Republican brand.
Hardly. They held the House, and Romney looks like he will win the popular vote.
A bad day for the GOP and completely predicted. Losing seats in the House. Losing Senate seats when the GOP had to defend only 10 compared to the Democrats 23. Especially Indiana and Missouri! Let the Civil War in the GOP commence!
kuha wrote: No, plain and simple. If you prefer the phrase "major repudiation" or "decisive repudiation" then you are welcome to them.
Sorry, but any use of repudiation would include the Republicans losing the House, and Obama winning popular vote. One won't happen, and the other, we shall see.
2008 was a repudiation, just like 2010 was for Democrats. But this year is nothing but maintaining status quo.
kuha wrote: No, plain and simple. If you prefer the phrase "major repudiation" or "decisive repudiation" then you are welcome to them.
Sorry, but any use of repudiation would include the Republicans losing the House, and Obama winning popular vote. One won't happen, and the other, we shall see.
2008 was a repudiation, just like 2010 was for Democrats. But this year is nothing but maintaining status quo.
Sorry, but any use of repudiation would include the Republicans losing the House, and Obama winning popular vote. One won't happen, and the other, we shall see.
2008 was a repudiation, just like 2010 was for Democrats. But this year is nothing but maintaining status quo.
Flumpy wrote:But the racial demographics point towards a Democratic majority in the future. Unless the GOP start to make huge inroads into the Hispanic and Black vote they are doomed
Amen! In 1980, Reagna got 55% of the White vote. In 2008 McCain also got 55% of the White vote. The difference is that Whites comprised 90% of the electorate in 1980 versus 74% in 2008.
Demographics is destiny.
We'll see. It won't surprise me to see ever more naked attempts to disenfranchise large segments of the lower classes over the next four years.
kuha wrote: No, plain and simple. If you prefer the phrase "major repudiation" or "decisive repudiation" then you are welcome to them.
Sorry, but any use of repudiation would include the Republicans losing the House, and Obama winning popular vote. One won't happen, and the other, we shall see.
2008 was a repudiation, just like 2010 was for Democrats. But this year is nothing but maintaining status quo.
Absolutely do not agree.
I don't agree either, or care either. Obama won and the Dems kept the Senate. As for the GOP keeping the House that has a lot to do with redistricting. But in the end who cares.
kuha wrote: No, plain and simple. If you prefer the phrase "major repudiation" or "decisive repudiation" then you are welcome to them.
Sorry, but any use of repudiation would include the Republicans losing the House, and Obama winning popular vote. One won't happen, and the other, we shall see.
2008 was a repudiation, just like 2010 was for Democrats. But this year is nothing but maintaining status quo.
The future is on TV right now... the Republican crowd at their hdqtrs is White on White, while the Democratic mob represents every stripe of ethincity. It's a striking difference and unless the Republicans can change their mix then the GOP is dead in the water in regard to future prospects.
guru wrote:By the way, the early call in 2000 was Gore winning Florida, not Bush.
As i said things are MUCH more sophisticated now, early predictions for Gore were from exit polls but when Jeb Bush's voter intimidation had been taken into account those predictions were rescinded. Then while the rest of the world new it was too close to call and there were MASSIVE problems with hanging chads etc Fox called it for Bush on purpose
