tandfman wrote:Speaking of Massachusetts, the h in Amherst is not pronounced. It's AM-erst.
Massachusetts tends to follow UK pronunciations. Thus the h is silent in Birmingham, Nottingham, Amherst, Framingham etc.
The hell it is - I grew up in Framingham, went to Framingham North HS, and we always pronounced the h.
Concord, NC = con-cord Concord, MA or NH = conk-urd
Well I heard both ways when I lived in Boston for Framingham, but as you mention it the h being sounded does sound familiar. Or is that just Rawson pronouncing it during the Boston Marathon. But the Brits do drop the H.
You should try Shrewsbury, England, where the locals, who don't always get their way, call it as in Shrew, while the BBC has it Shrowsbury.
Halfmiler2 wrote:Of course, certain names are pronounced differently in different places: Arkansas (state) versus Arkansas (river)
Apparently, even the river is pronounced differently in different places:
Name pronunciation varies by region. Many people in midwestern states, including Kansas and Colorado, pronounce it /ærˈkænzəs/ar-KAN-zəs, while people in the state of Arkansas typically pronounce it /ˈɑrkənsɔː/AR-kən-saw according to a state law passed in 1881.
I also recall one of the first times I announced at a track & field meet, I almost got my head handed to me for pronouncing Cardinal Dougherty H.S. of Philadelphia as DAHR-er-tee. Of course, it is DOCK-er-tee.
gh wrote:as I recall both Wichita State and Ouachita Baptist trace their lineage to the same tribe of native Americans.
Not exactly. It is a bit confusing.
The Ouachita (pronounced Wash-ita) were a NE Louisiana tribe that assimilated into the Nachitoch tribe and is now included on the Caddo, a dominant tribe in East Texas and Western Louisiana, tribal rolls.
Curiously, the Caddo reservation was/in SW Oklahoma.
Ouachita is a Choctaw word. The Choctaws, of course, were one of the Five Civilized Tribes that force migrated from SE USA in the 1840s Trail of Tears to reservation in Eastern Oklahoma, with present capital at Durant in SE OK.
The Ouachita Mountians in eastern Oklahoma/western Arkansas are geomorphically /metamorphosed/ troubled sedimentary mountains.
The Wichita were a plains tribe that roamed the Central Plains in Texas Oklahoma and Kansas: akin to the Kiowa, Comanche, Cheyenne, Arapahoe.. Wichita Falls, Texas and Wichita, Kansas were influenced by this plains trib.
The Wichita Mountains in Southwestern Oklahoma are uplifted granite exposures of the Amarillo Uplift which plunges underground in the Texas Panhandle and mark the southern flank of the Anadarko Basin in SW Oklahoma.
Strangely Washita County in SW Oklahoma is presumably named for the Ouachita tribe of eastern Oklahoma with the French spelling imported from Louisiana corrected.
Arapaho is a distinct tribe that aligned with Southern Cheyenne in signing the third treaty of Medicine Lodge, circa 1867, giving up traditional hunting grounds from Kansas border to the Arkansas River in exchange for a "forever" reservation in west-central Indian Territory between the Canadian River and Kansas ... things got nastier as the government repeatedly and unilaterally violated the treaty in squeezing the tribes south of the Cimarron River.
Cheyenne-Araphoe currently have a very prosperous casino in Canadian County on what is left of their land. County Seat is at El Reno, site to the Fort Reno remount station.
Arapahoe is the county seat of Custer County, OK. It is a virtual ghost town with little more than the courthouse, Post Office and convenience store, across the river about four miles north of the much larger town of Clinton (pop 10,000).
I saw the Cowboy and Indian Saturday afternoon serials in my youth too.. don't remember the Injun's tribe being mentioned.. just them savage redskins..
When I was a kid and I learned the state capitals, I assumed that Boise rhymed with noise, and was pronounced boyz. Then someone told me that it was actually two syllables, so i assumed that it was boy-zee. It was only when I actually went there for the first time (when they hosted the 1994 NCAA Championships) that I realized that the correct pronuciation is boy-see.
tandfman wrote:When I was a kid and I learned the state capitals, I assumed that Boise rhymed with noise, and was pronounced boyz. Then someone told me that it was actually two syllables, so i assumed that it was boy-zee. It was only when I actually went there for the first time (when they hosted the 1994 NCAA Championships) that I realized that the correct pronuciation is boy-see.
10 out of 9 TV commentators say Boy-zee State, so there ya go!