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DrJay wrote:Yet another season in which we need a four-team playoff. Not an eight-team playoff. Four will always do just fine.
Well, if the season ended today, we really would need an eight-team playoff. Fortunately, the final regular season weekend plus the conference championship games should help sort things out.
KSU should have been treated like a non-AQ team ... they should have been dropped out of the top 10. That was a really bad loss. 4 touchdowns? And, the game wasn't that close.
If Kiffin doesn't crush that team that should remain nameless than he should be fired.
preston wrote:If Kiffin doesn't crush that team that should remain nameless than he should be fired.
From the Chicago Tribune:
This is where Notre Dame should be, on the pedestal it puts itself, living up to its own lofty standard. This is where the program belongs more than once every 19 years and shouldn't vacate again next Sunday until 2031. This is who they are and where they expect to be, looking at everybody else pressing their noses to the glass. This is the elevated status Notre Dame must attain to justify making all those decisions to remain independent in football.
This is where Notre Dame should be, on the pedestal it puts itself, living up to its own lofty standard. This is where the program belongs more than once every 19 years and shouldn't vacate again next Sunday until 2031. This is who they are and where they expect to be, looking at everybody else pressing their noses to the glass. This is the elevated status Notre Dame must attain to justify making all those decisions to remain independent in football.
Views like that are one of the reasons that I so despise everything about that school (Yes, that includes Regis Philbin!!!) This belief that they are owed is just sickening and it hurts college football.
My dream scenario a few years back was that the Big-10, Pac-12, Big-12, ACC and SEC conferences would go to 16 teams and leave that school that can't be named out of all the conferences, eventually forcing them out of the playoff picture altogether. With the news that the Big 10 has grabbed Rutgers and Maryland that brings the number to 14.
This is the bad Karma for the ACC allowing themselves to be used by THAT SCHOOL the same way that the Big East allowed themselves to be used. They would NEVER be able to tell the Big 10 that they're not going to split their football money. Serve the ACC right; I hope the Big 10 also grabs UCONN out of Big East and Boston College out of the ACC, but I'm not sure if the Big 10 thinks UCONN is strong enough academically for the Big 10.
By the way, I expect USC to beat Notre Dame without Matt Barkley. They still have great receivers, the back-up QB is good (except for the lack of experience), and so on.
j-a-m wrote:By the way, I expect USC to beat Notre Dame without Matt Barkley. They still have great receivers, the back-up QB is good (except for the lack of experience), and so on.
If that happens, we could have another all-SEC championship game if Florida can get past Florida State.
j-a-m wrote:By the way, I expect USC to beat Notre Dame without Matt Barkley. They still have great receivers, the back-up QB is good (except for the lack of experience), and so on.
I wound not be surprised if ND's best quarter out-scores USC, either.
26mi235 wrote:I wound not be surprised if ND's best quarter out-scores USC, either.
It won't be a cake-walk, but ND wouldn't still be undefeated if they couldn't beat a Barkley-less SC. I'm a card-carrying ND hata (have you seen this week's SI, with a picture of an uplifted ND golden helmet with TD Jesus reflected in it? - ugh!), but the talking heads are already disparaging ND's predicted win over SC as worthless because Barkley ain't there! I useta be a big SC-hata too, but I've mellowed and really, really hope they can pull the upset.
I think the NCAA member schools will rue the day that they let them get away with making up rules on the fly to drop the hammer on Penn State, because all it did was embolden them.
jazzcyclist wrote:Rumor has it that the NCAA is getting ready to drop the hammer on Auburn football.
They woulda/coulda/shoulda on Cam Newton, but he was too hot a property to throw under the bus for the sins of many others. You gotta know they were highly distraught when the Honey Badger, arguably their hottest 2012 property, went off the deep end.
Last night the #1 team met an unranked team in the L.A. Coliseum. Of course that's not a surprise since USC started out the season #1 and Notre Dame started out unranked. But what wasn't expected was that the teams would flip flop, with Notre Dame rising to the #1 ranking and USC falling out of the rankings. Has this ever happened before? I know this is the first time that a AP preseason unranked team has ever finished the season #1 in the BCS era. By the way, Notre Dame held eight of its 12 opponents to their lowest score of the season and their defense only allowed one rushing touchdown for the entire season. Additionally, they allowed minus 5 yards for the entire season in first-and-goal situations.
Yesterday, we found out why the ACC is the ACC, with the SEC going 4-0 in ACC-SEC matchups, including dominating wins over the two best teams in the conference, #10 Florida State and #11 Clemson. I hope Jimbo Fisher will shut his pie hole now.
Because of Florida's very strong computer ranking, due to wins over four top-12 teams (Texas A&M, LSU, South Carolina and Florida State), I wouldn't count them out of the Crystal Football picture just yet. So far, both Georgia and Alabama have only one top-12 win on their resumes, so even winning the SEC championship game will only give the winner half as many top-12 wins as Florida.
jazzcyclist wrote:Last night the #1 team met an unranked team in the L.A. Coliseum. Of course that's not a surprise since USC started out the season #1 and Notre Dame started out unranked. But what wasn't expected was that the teams would flip flop, with Notre Dame rising to the #1 ranking and USC falling out of the rankings. Has this ever happened before? I know this is the first time that a AP preseason unranked team has ever finished the season #1 in the BCS era. By the way, Notre Dame held eight of its 12 opponents to their lowest score of the season and their defense only allowed one rushing touchdown for the entire season. Additionally, they allowed minus 5 yards for the entire season in first-and-goal situations.
Yesterday, we found out why the ACC is the ACC, with the SEC going 4-0 in ACC-SEC matchups, including dominating wins over the two best teams in the conference, #10 Florida State and #11 Clemson. I hope Jimbo Fisher will shut his pie hole now.
Because of Florida's very strong computer ranking, due to wins over four top-12 teams (Texas A&M, LSU, South Carolina and Florida State), I wouldn't count them out of the Crystal Football picture just yet. So far, both Georgia and Alabama have only one top-12 win on their resumes, so even winning the SEC championship game will only give the winner half as many top-12 wins as Florida.
I don't see how could Florida leap over the winner of Alabama-Georgia regardless of the merits.
Pego wrote:I don't see how could Florida leap over the winner of Alabama-Georgia regardless of the merits.
If Florida finshes #3 in the human polls, which they should, their high computer ranking might be enough to get them past the winner of the SEC Championship game, who will be #2 in the human polls.
By the way, I think voters will be a lot less likely to give Oregon the benefit of the doubt in the future, after Stanford exposed what would happen to their basketball-on-grass offense if it had to face one of the best SEC schools or Notre Dame.
Pego wrote:I don't see how could Florida leap over the winner of Alabama-Georgia regardless of the merits.
If Florida finshes #3 in the human polls, which they should, their high computer ranking might be enough to get them past the winner of the SEC Championship game, who will be #2 in the human polls.
By the way, I think voters will be a lot less likely to give Oregon the benefit of the doubt in the future, after Stanford exposed what would happen to their basketball-on-grass offense if it had to face one of the best SEC schools or Notre Dame.
Georgia maybe. No way Florida is jumping over Bama if Bama wins.
Dutra5 wrote:Georgia maybe. No way Florida is jumping over Bama if Bama wins.
There's no way Florida jumps Georgia (to whom they lost, head-to-head) if Ga wins!! The BCS Game is set! ND vs. SEC winner.
Rose will be Stanford vs. Neb Orange: FSU - Louisville (Big East Champ?! - should be loser of SEC game) Sugar: Gators and Sooners Fiesta: KSt and Oregon - great game!!!
I'm very pleased that 12-0 OhioSt is outside looking in, with their sad puppy-dog eyes and their noses pressed up against the Bowl window.
Dutra5 wrote:Georgia maybe. No way Florida is jumping over Bama if Bama wins.
I don't know why you would say this. The computers don't know what name is on the jerseys, and like Georgia, Alabama has had only one signature win all season.
Marlow wrote:There's no way Florida jumps Georgia (to whom they lost, head-to-head) if Ga wins!!
I beginning to think that some of you fokks don't understand how the computer rankings work.
Marlow wrote:I'm very pleased that 12-0 OhioSt is outside looking in, with their sad puppy-dog eyes and their noses pressed up against the Bowl window.
If the NCAA had banned Ohio State in a timely manner instead of delaying the inevitable due to politics, Ohio State would have served their bowl ban two years ago when they played in the Sugar Bowl, and they would be in BCS contention today. This is poetic justice IMO.
Marlow wrote:There's no way Florida jumps Georgia (to whom they lost, head-to-head) if Ga wins!!
I beginning to think that some of you fokks don't understand how the computer rankings work.
So give us a scenario where Fla, now idle, jumps two teams already above them in the BCS standings, one of which will beat the other and reap even greater "computer rankings", which already had them ahead of the Gators.
I'm beginning to think you don't understand how . . . math works.
With the news that the Big 10 has grabbed Rutgers and Maryland that brings the number to 14.
, -6.5 ND for you it is.
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