What is Sportsmanship?


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Re: What is Sportsmanship?

Postby uakari » Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:55 pm

dude, you don't know shit about volleyball. yes, when there's a broken play, an outside hitter or a middle blocker will set a high ball to a teammate. but they can't play as a setter: they can't set a back slide, a step out, or a quick set. setter is a very specialized position. the other positions certainly can't play as a setter for a whole match. that was my point.

don't tell me, any player can bump, set and attack the ball. that's your picnic volleyball game, not an olympic level one.
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Re: What is Sportsmanship?

Postby Marlow » Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:05 am

uakari wrote:dude, you don't know shit about volleyball. don't tell me, any player can bump, set and attack the ball. that's your picnic volleyball game, not an olympic level one.

Dismount! (Doesn't sitting on a horse that high give you a nose-bleed?!)

Played for 6 years on a US Navy team that played in the Southeast US Regional Championships, then coached for another 10 years, but yeah, other than that (and watching all the M&W USA Olympic matches every 4 years) I don't know the game. When I watch the 'real players' play, I see a whole lot of versatility in all the players. Karch Kiraly could set perfectly. So can Logan Tom.
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Re: What is Sportsmanship?

Postby br » Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:51 am

To answer the question "What is Sportsmanship", I think covers it...

http://espn.go.com/olympics/story/_/id/ ... ship-award.

Meghan Vogel honored by USOC


'Meghan Vogel rounded the last corner of the last lap on a steamy day last spring and saw another runner struggling to stay upright.

Instead of running past her, Vogel grabbed Arden McMath and slung McMath's arm over her shoulder. Vogel dragged McMath those last 20 meters to the finish line, and once they got there, Vogel twisted McMath's body ahead of hers to make sure McMath crossed the line in front of her.'
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Re: What is Sportsmanship?

Postby Anthony Treacher » Sun Sep 23, 2012 1:13 pm

Back on the topic of sportsmanship and the Olympics badminton disqualifications. Like many people I have vacilated back and forth on that one. That is, until I recalled what was drummed into us at my English Grammar School back in the 1950s:

"The important thing is not winning but playing the game."
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Re: What is Sportsmanship?

Postby Conor Dary » Sun Sep 23, 2012 1:19 pm

Anthony Treacher wrote:Back on the topic of sportsmanship and the Olympics badminton disqualifications. Like many people I have vacilated back and forth on that one. That is, until I recalled what was drummed into us at my English Grammar School back in the 1950s:

"The important thing is not winning but playing the game."


Unless of course it was the Ashes...And the captain was an old Public School boy. :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodyline
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Re: What is Sportsmanship?

Postby Anthony Treacher » Sun Sep 23, 2012 1:32 pm

Very good try Conor. But it is always The Ashes. And preferably a former public school boy, or even better an Old Boy of such-and-such public school.
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Re: What is Sportsmanship?

Postby uakari » Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:11 pm

Marlow wrote:
uakari wrote: Karch Kiraly could set perfectly. So can Logan Tom.


are you insane? KK could set and lead a team to olympic gold? so could tom???? can you imagine the US -- with tom as setter -- beating the domin. rep. or thailand, let alone brazil or russia?

and of course, you chose as examples very well rounded players, who could (and KK did) play at the beach professionally... but first you had said THEY ALL could set, because they are such good all-around players. really? let's see how well a team with haneef-park or clay stanley as setter would do. or musertsky, murilo, gamova or madelynne montano. or whichever volleyball star you want to pick who is not a setter.

i don't care how much experience you have, blah blah blah blah blah. you are on drugs. LOL.
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Re: What is Sportsmanship?

Postby Marlow » Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:26 pm

uakari wrote:i don't care how much experience you have, blah blah blah blah blah. you are on drugs. LOL.

And to use the old chestnut, unless YOU have played the game in the Olympics, your opinion weighs EXACTLY the same as mine, sirrah.
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Re: What is Sportsmanship?

Postby uakari » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:11 am

oh really? so i don't know anything because i have never played VB at the olympics? did you run the 110H final in the olympics? then why won't you stop giving us your expert opinion on this event?

my opinion is based on the current reality that olympic-level VB player positions are so specialized (in a way that is somewhat similar to basketball or am. football) that an outside hitter or middle blocker cannot become a world class setter overnight. maybe you could enlighten us and give us one example... just one... when this scenario actually happened.

you said initially that any player in the top level teams could just pick up and set an entire match at a competitive level, because they are all that good, and i say, baloney. megan hodge setting? matt anderson??? you really are on drugs. ha!
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Re: What is Sportsmanship?

Postby Marlow » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:22 am

uakari wrote:oh really? so i don't know anything because i have never played VB at the olympics? did you run the 110H final in the olympics? then why won't you stop giving us your expert opinion on this event?

That's not what I said . . . at all. I said your opinion is no more valid than mine. That also applies to ANY comment I make here on any subject where other commentators have a similar amount of experience. Neither of us played Olympic volleyball, so any perspective we have on the matter is a merely opinion. I do know a lot about volleyball, and I assume you do too. Here's a pertinent quote:

"That which can be asserted without evidence [your post] can also be dismissed without evidence."
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Re: What is Sportsmanship?

Postby uakari » Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:09 am

you are just being a pedant because you lost the argument.
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Re: What is Sportsmanship?

Postby Marlow » Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:20 am

uakari wrote:you are just being a pedant because you lost the argument.

Oh man, ya got me!! :lol:
And gh is just about to ban us both, so . . . Peace, Out!
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Re: What is Sportsmanship?

Postby bambam » Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:54 pm

Lighten up, guys
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Re: What is Sportsmanship?

Postby Conor Dary » Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:55 pm

And we thought Sean Payton was up to no good....

    Four months before the world heard about the New Orleans Saints' bounty scandal, two Pop Warner football coaches in Tustin began offering cash to their 10- and 11-year-old players for making big hits and knocking opponents out of games, according to an assistant coach, a parent, interviews with players and signed statements by two players.

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/play ... wford.html
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