any other Sons of Anarchy fans here?

[gh]

wow.... a season finale ripped straight out of the Godfather (and not in a bad way). Utterly fabulous.

Battlme's cover of Hey Hey My My was perfection as wrap-it-up music.

[jamese1045]

wow.... a season finale ripped straight out of the Godfather (and not in a bad way). Utterly fabulous.

Battlme's cover of Hey Hey My My was perfection as wrap-it-up music.

*standing, ovating* Wow! I didn't see that coming. I just knew Stall was going to get it, but didn't see it coming to Opie (stone killer). But I knew the Serrif was up to something, when he swung back to the boys and Clay gave him the Godfather "kiss." just didn't know The Serriff was in on the set-up. Ha, didn't know there WAS a set-up.

Great ending--for now. One of the times I approve of bloody violence in tv. just wish Stall'd have had more time to suffer.

[gh]

How great is the plotting/character development when you find yourself cheering a rogue biker as he machine-guns an ATF agent in the back of the head while she begs for mercy?!

[lonewolf]

[Great ending--for now. One of the times I approve of bloody violence in tv. just wish Stall'd have had more time to suffer.

Ya'll are going to tease me into catching up on this entire series.. I do love righteous retribution..

[jeremyp]

My staid British wife was muttering "kill the bitch" throughout. My guess is they had her off her lover in order for the audience to get into the mood. The ending sure fooled me. Now we have 2 shows with characters doing time in the off season. The other one is "Terriers." And one on the lam: "Breaking Bad."

[gh]

So which of 3 versions of Sons do we get next year:

•one in which they escape the slammer and life goes on?

•one which, Desparate Housewives-like, simply jumps ahead in time?

•Oz II?

[jeremyp]

So which of 3 versions of Sons do we get next year:

•one in which they escape the slammer and life goes on?

•one which, Desparate Housewives-like, simply jumps ahead in time?

•Oz II?

Prison break?

[gh]

This week's 90-minute episode was the best yet, with the use of Patty Griffin's Mary at the end a tear-jerker.

Katey Sagal deserves an Emmy (I said that last year too, actually).

Of course, if a rogue-biker series isn't your cup o' tea......

Glad to see that at least the Golden Globes got it right and gave Sagal Best Actress.

The Beauteous Babs and I just spent last couple of weeks rewatching all 39 episodes in close succession. Amazing how much more character development comes out when the preceding episodes are fresher in your mind. But what a great cliffhanger to season 4!

[gh]

Whoa! Fuck the Russians, indeed!

Season 4 off to a kick (fucking-ass) start!

[jeremyp]

Whoa! Fuck the Russians, indeed!

Season 4 off to a kick (fucking-ass) start!

Yes the bad boys are back, and already in need of new enemies. When will Jax's gf realize he's as likely to leave SAMCRO as Michael Corleone was to leave the Corleones? Will she care? Will she take over Gemma's mantle?

[gh]

and another Deadwood alum joins the ensemble: Ray McKinnon as the new ADA. You may remember him as the wacked-out preacher when last we left South Dakota.

[jeremyp]

Boy are they making Clay out to be a mean SOB in this years series. If he's not careful Gemma might just exchange cyanide for his Viagara. If I were Tara I'd split with the kid before Macbeth and Lady get seriously pissed at her.

[Dutra]

Whoa! Fuck the Russians, indeed!

Season 4 off to a kick (fucking-ass) start!

Yes the bad boys are back, and already in need of new enemies. When will Jax's gf realize he's as likely to leave SAMCRO as Michael Corleone was to leave the Corleones? Will she care? Will she take over Gemma's mantle?

I enjoy the show but the "Jax wants out" angle is becoming a bit tiresome. Much like Rescue Me's Tommy " almost drinks, drinks, beats someone up and we're back to normal next week" angle got tiring after a while.

I find myself thinking "just leave dammit!".

[gh]

chili anyone?

[Dutra]

chili anyone?

That was awesome.

[jeremyp]

Looks like they're setting up Clay to be offed by either Jax or Opie, or even Gemma. He has gone way off the rez.

[jeremyp]

O.K. SAMCRO fans here's a few questions:

1. Will Clay be offed? 2. This year or next? Will the season end with a "who killed J.R. redux"?
3. Who will off him?
4. Will Gemma ride off with Tig?
5. Will Juice get outed and will the club accept him?

[Dutra]

O.K. SAMCRO fans here's a few questions:

1. Will Clay be offed? 2. This year or next? Will the season end with a "who killed J.R. redux"?
3. Who will off him?
4. Will Gemma ride off with Tig?
5. Will Juice get outed and will the club accept him?

There's only one person that can stop Tara from being killed.....Tara...so I think Tara will end up killing Clay.

I've thought for a few weeks that the series is headed towards jax and tara inheriting the roles of Gemma and Clay. Gemma will stick around as matriarch since she's married to Kirk Sutter.

I can't figure out the Otto angle. They spent so much time on it last night that he somehow has to be involved in whatever major story line ongoing happens but I can't figure that out.

[gh]

The whole Otto thread, as I read it, is that if he takes the deal, the club is finished, so it's a huge problem lurking in the background.... can the boys escape at the last minute once again?!

Of course, bringing him back in also gave us a chance to revisit the porn set, so we got gratuitous (semi)nudity, and, of course, another colorful shooting.

Although I must note that (I've been watching too much CSI!) given where the guys were standing, and with all the shots going through the lid of the trunk, most of the lead ended up in the back seat, not in Georgie Caruso.

[jeremyp]

Although I must note that (I've been watching too much CSI!) given where the guys were standing, and with all the shots going through the lid of the trunk, most of the lead ended up in the back seat, not in Georgie Caruso.

I think Roseanne Barr asked for a stay of execution.

[gh]

..... Gemma will stick around as matriarch since she's married to Kirk Sutter. ....

I hadn't realized that, and here's something else that was new to me (but perhaps not to you): the role of Otto is played by.... Sutter!

[jeremyp]

..... Gemma will stick around as matriarch since she's married to Kirk Sutter. ....

I hadn't realized that, and here's something else that was new to me (but perhaps not to you): the role of Otto is played by.... Sutter!

Wow! Did not realize that. Gets to use great props.

[Dutra]

..... Gemma will stick around as matriarch since she's married to Kirk Sutter. ....

I hadn't realized that, and here's something else that was new to me (but perhaps not to you): the role of Otto is played by.... Sutter!

Seems that gh needs to brush up on his pop culture.

On the other hand...I didn't realize that was Sutter.

[gh]

..... Gemma will stick around as matriarch since she's married to Kirk Sutter. ....

I hadn't realized that, and here's something else that was new to me (but perhaps not to you): the role of Otto is played by.... Sutter!

Wow! Did not realize that. Gets to use great props.

I don't think she likes it when you call them props

[jeremyp]

Best guess is that Clay was wearing a vest when Opie shot him. But his days seem numbered unless Sutter pulls some Vic Mackey nine lives scenario.

[gh]

vest was my first guess, but the Beauteous Babs said there was blood spatter.... ??? (where's Dexter when you need him?!)

[Dutra5]

The premise is that Jax has to stay. Can't be Bobby as he appears to have a bit of a problem. Can't be Opie as he's already been declared incapable and he just shot the current leader. Clay...definitely blood spatter....is either deceased or severely incapacitated. So Jax has to take over.

[jeremyp]

vest was my first guess, but the Beauteous Babs said there was blood spatter.... ??? (where's Dexter when you need him?!)

True but maybe Clay had stolen some cranberry juice from Gemma knowing he wasn't going to get any...and stfuffed it in his shirt....that's my story...

[jeremyp]

The premise is that Jax has to stay. Can't be Bobby as he appears to have a bit of a problem. Can't be Opie as he's already been declared incapable and he just shot the current leader. Clay...definitely blood spatter....is either deceased or severely incapacitated. So Jax has to take over.

And Tara's definitely showing signs of being Gemma-ized.

[gh]

...
And Tara's definitely showing signs of being Gemma-ized.

Man, were you prescient!

[Dutra5]

...
And Tara's definitely showing signs of being Gemma-ized.

Man, were you prescient!

I think Tara dies. Hit never called off.

I think Clay dies. At the hands of Tara's instructions to Jax.

[gh]

And the series ends with Tara killing Gemma, then screaming, "out damned spot!"

[jeremyp]

I also think Tara has a copy of the "missing" pages-that show Gemma was part of plot to kill Jax Sr-and will use them to leave Charming. As to Tara's f-up'd assasination was it just me or were those Irish guys?

[gh]

Oh man.... this was never a light comedy, to be sure, but this sucker is getting dark-dark-dark!

[jeremyp]

Oh man.... this was never a light comedy, to be sure, but this sucker is getting dark-dark-dark!

Tune in next season when they hire Walter White to cook meth for them and he offs Gemma by chopping her head off with a Samurai sword....