iPod II--The Albums


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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby MJD » Wed Jan 07, 2004 5:23 pm

>I can't believe nobody has mentioned Johnny Cash. I would have to take "Live
>at Folsom Prison" I think.

His NIN remake was better IMHO.
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby Guest » Wed Jan 07, 2004 5:26 pm

>I can't believe nobody has mentioned Johnny Cash. I would have to take "Live
>at Folsom Prison" I think.>>

And after hearing "Boy Named Sue" for the 50th time in the first month you'd smash your iPod!
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby Guest » Wed Jan 07, 2004 5:31 pm

Pity Sue wasn't around to protect Georgie...
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby Guest » Wed Jan 07, 2004 5:55 pm

1. Dylan: Blonde on Blonde
2. Springsteen: Greetings from Asbury Park
3. Stones: Begars Banquet
4. Morrison: Astral Weeks
5. Robert Johnson: Complete recordings (note that Love in Vain is upbeat by RJ, not the dirge of the Stones)
6. Mississippi Fred McDowell: I Do Not Play No Rock and Roll
7. The Band: Music from Big Pink
8. Rod Stewart: Gasoline Alley
9. The Who: Who's Next
10. Wagner: Parsifal. Because a) it's the best thing he ever wrote; b) I can sit through the 6 hours without my butt giving out (try that with Tristan); c) Jan Eaglen hasn't felt compelled to play Kundry.

On the songs for ID'd folks, Dylan has some. The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll & Sara (for/against his ex) for sure. Some people think Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands was for Baez. I think that view is probably BS (my guess is Sara, but that is without knowledge) but I do think that Positivly 4th Street is a slap at Baez, but that is probably BS as well.
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby gh » Wed Jan 07, 2004 9:34 pm

OK, finally made the tough choices! In no preferential order:

Past Masters--Volume 1 (Beatles)
(since it wasn't stuff off other albums, I don't considerit a "greatest hits" DQ, but if you do, I can live--like so many others--w/ Rubber Soul)

And Justice For All (Metallica)

Sounds of Silence (Simon & Garfunkel)

Brothers In Arms (Dire Straits)

Astral Weeks (Van Morrison)

Highway 61 Revisited---Bob Dylan
(close win over Blood On The Tracks)

The Doors (The Doors)
(or is it vice versa?)

Songs (Leonard Cohen)
(everybody has to have at least one album by a bisexual French-Canadian Jew!) (talk about your basic minority group)

Surrealistic Pillow (Jefferson Airplane)

Classical, of course, has to be Götterdämmerung
(over Ludwig van 9, as Alexander de Large would call him)
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby Guest » Wed Jan 07, 2004 10:42 pm

The problem with Leonard Cohen is that after listing for 1/2 hour or so, you need to go out and commit suicide.
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby Guest » Thu Jan 08, 2004 6:52 am

I guess he considers Cohen a safety valve in case it's a particularly boring desert island.
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby Guest » Thu Jan 08, 2004 9:18 am

>I give up, who was the "Long Cool Woman In A Black Dress"?

Who was BB King's guitar(s) named after?
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby gh » Thu Jan 08, 2004 9:20 am

You think Cohen songs are depressing, try reading a book of his like "Beautiful Losers." Aiyeeee! I only mention this because it has a (tenuous) track link--I was turned on to the book by Kate Schmidt, then the WR holder in the javelin.

(Father Brebeuf and the Iroquois, you don't want to know)
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby Guest » Thu Jan 08, 2004 9:28 am

>And after hearing "Boy Named Sue"
>for the 50th time in the first month you'd smash your iPod!

It could be worse - 50th time listening to "...el oh el-lay, Lola!"

Or worser and worserer...being stuck with only one DVD to watch - over and overer - "Run Lola Run"
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby Bob Duncan » Thu Jan 08, 2004 10:12 am

vaulter83 wrote:
>I can't believe nobody has mentioned Johnny Cash. I would have to take "Live at Folsom Prison" I think.

It was on my list posted earlier. In fact, Cash was well-represented in the other music list, too.
And for the record, "Boy Named Sue" is not on that particular album (it's on the San Quentin album).

Although Cash covered Leonard Cohen's "Bird On A Wire" on "American Recordings", there have been no reported suicides after listening to it.
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby Guest » Thu Jan 08, 2004 10:26 am

Yeah, but "Bird On A Wire" isn't on the "Songs" album, it's on the much more upbeat "Songs From A Room" collection. Who could get depressed with such uplifting lyrics as these:

<<Like a bird on the wire,
like a drunk in a midnight choir
I have tried in my way to be free.
Like a worm on a hook,
like a knight from some old fashioned book
I have saved all my ribbons for thee.
If I, if I have been unkind,
I hope that you can just let it go by.
If I, if I have been untrue
I hope you know it was never to you.

Like a baby, stillborn,
like a beast with his horn
I have torn everyone who reached out for me.
But I swear by this song
and by all that I have done wrong
I will make it all up to thee.
I saw a beggar leaning on his wooden crutch,
he said to me, "You must not ask for so much."
And a pretty woman leaning in her darkened door,
she cried to me, "Hey, why not ask for more?"

Oh like a bird on the wire,
like a drunk in a midnight choir
I have tried in my way to be free. >>

Whew! I feel better already!
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby MJD » Thu Jan 08, 2004 3:51 pm

>>I give up, who was the "Long Cool Woman In A Black Dress"?

Who was BB
>King's guitar(s) named after?

Lucille. He damn near lost his guitar in a fire caused by two guys fighting who knocked over a kerosene lamp. He found out later that they were fighting over a woman named Lucille. Probably just left Kenny. Who is Carrie-Anne about? Still no answer.
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby Guest » Thu Jan 08, 2004 3:55 pm

B B King's guitar was named after Chuck Berry's car.
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby gh » Thu Jan 08, 2004 3:59 pm

Man, much as I have loved these two musical interludes, I gotta get back to cranking out the February issue for you guys! No more from me!

But in passing I have to mention one final music-related thing. Maybe this is old news to some, but was driving my wife's car today and discovered that on certain FM stations, the digital readout not only gives the frequency of the station, but also gives the call-letters, then the name of the artist playing, then the name of the song! Very handy when you're going nuts trying to figure out what the name of that moldy oldie is that they're playing. Good thing our desert island iPods all come with that feature!
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby MJD » Thu Jan 08, 2004 4:30 pm

>B B King's guitar was named after Chuck Berry's car.

Ok malmo. Who's right?
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Postby Guest » Thu Jan 08, 2004 4:41 pm

1. The Doors- First Album

2. Neil Young- Everybody Knows this is nowhere

3. Eagles -Desperado

4. Townes Van Zandt- Rain on a Conga Drum

5. Tom petty- The album with Runnin down a dream

6. Rolling Stones- Get Yer Ya-Ya's out

7. Led Zeppelin- 4

8. Bob Dylan- Blood on the Tracks

9. Mozart- Piano Concerto's

10. Velvet Underground- the one with Heroin on it
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby Guest » Thu Jan 08, 2004 5:15 pm

>>B B King's guitar was named after Chuck Berry's car.

Ok malmo. Who's
>right?

Gee, MJD, you know the answer to your qyestion.
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby hammer forever » Thu Jan 08, 2004 7:51 pm

I have the Tower of Power album on which Bruce Conte is a musician- We Came To Play..

How about other top ten albums with drug users/dealers??
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby Guest » Thu Jan 08, 2004 7:56 pm

>I have the Tower of Power album on which Bruce Conte is a musician- We Came To
>Play..

Was the tag line?..."But wanted to make sure we won"
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby Guest » Thu Jan 08, 2004 9:21 pm

Bruce Conte is Victor (the dealer) Conte's brother. Believe Bruce was on many albums, Victor only one. Is he on the one you have, or is it just Bruce?
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby Olegi2 » Thu Jan 08, 2004 10:13 pm

Haven't been marooned on a desert island but have lived in the Libyan desert for a coupla years with and old windup gramophone (phongraph?)
and about six 78s. Artie Shaw Gramercy 5(Summit ridge drive, Gloomy Sunday) Harry James(Trumpet Blues and Cantabile) Benny Goodman(can't remember) Knew every note and drumbeat. Sharpening needles was a problem.
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby Guest » Thu Jan 08, 2004 10:51 pm

what's good about the beattles?
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby Guest » Fri Jan 09, 2004 3:37 am

"what's good about the beattles?"

Never heard of them. But there's a similarly named group, The Beatles, that dominated the years 64-70, because they crafted simple melodies and added some technical touches, which resulted in pop songs with universal appeal.
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby MJD » Fri Jan 09, 2004 4:33 am

>"what's good about the beattles?"

Never heard of them. But there's a
>similarly named group, The Beatles, that dominated the years 64-70, because
>they crafted simple melodies and added some technical touches, which resulted
>in pop songs with universal appeal.

Don't even really consider myself a major fan and I have 230 tracks by them-probably more than double anyone else.
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby Guest » Fri Jan 09, 2004 5:15 am

As a huge fan, I realized one day that I became a teenager the year they came to America, they split up when I turned 20 and John Lennon was killed on my 30th birthday. Is it any wonder that I was forever transformed by their music?
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby MJD » Fri Jan 09, 2004 5:26 am

>As a huge fan, I realized one day that I became a teenager the year they came
>to America, they split up when I turned 20 and John Lennon was killed on my
>30th birthday. Is it any wonder that I was forever transformed by their music?

I was standing in the same spot in the same bar when I heard about Lennon and Elvis. I'm told that the 20 somethings know where they were when Cobain finished off his multi year suicide(not unlike Elvis I suppose).
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby Guest » Fri Jan 09, 2004 2:40 pm

I was in Kobenhavn when Elvis died (my 1st Euro T&F trip, E Cup, W Cup). When people discovered we were American, they gave us lost of sympathy. I didn't much care, I was more of a Little Richard and Chuck Berry fan. Actually, then I was listening mostly to Dylan and classical.
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby Guest » Fri Jan 09, 2004 2:49 pm

Dylan IS classical!
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby Guest » Fri Jan 09, 2004 10:38 pm

Yo! And I may need to modify my album list. I am listening to disc 2 of the 1st Dylan bootleg series and I might want to give up Blonde on Blonde. It has versions of BoB things e.g. Subterrian Homesick Blues which are slightly different from the original (20 years of schooling and they put you on the dayshift). Any list has pitfalls, and the beauty of this thread is that you can change your mind.
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby MJD » Sat Jan 10, 2004 4:06 am

>Yo! And I may need to modify my album list. I am listening to disc 2 of the
>1st Dylan bootleg series and I might want to give up Blonde on Blonde. It has
>versions of BoB things e.g. Subterrian Homesick Blues which are slightly
>different from the original

Here is someone who didn't even like the original:


"In the rock world, this studious argument has been parlayed into the notion of "selling out." Following this logic, Bob Dylan cashed in his credibility when he moved away from "protest music" and began moaning about the idiosyncratically personal on such albums as "Blonde on Blonde,""

http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20 ... 006099.asp
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby Guest » Sun Jan 11, 2004 4:22 pm

okay, what the hell is good about The Beatles?

bad vocals skills, simple lyrics......
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby tafnut » Sun Jan 11, 2004 4:29 pm

My dearest flipper,
Beauty being in the eye of the beholder, try not to feel so aggrieved that you cannot fathom their appeal. Perhaps they do not sing to you. But rest assured that they sing to millions, nay hundreds of millions of other commonfolk, and we are all better off for their melodies. Music, like most art, cannot be explained, only appreciated. Because you cannot appreciate them does not malign your aesthetic sense. Nor does our love of them demean ours.
Here's a Beatles lyric to muse on:
"All you need is love."
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby MJD » Sun Jan 11, 2004 4:35 pm

>>I have the Tower of Power album on which Bruce Conte is a musician- We Came
>To
>Play..

Was the tag line?..."But wanted to make sure we won"

Two real life songs by them:
Back on the Streets Again
Soul Vaccination

Another musical project Victor was involved in:

Pure Food & Drug Act
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby Guest » Sun Jan 11, 2004 6:41 pm

>okay, what the hell is good about The Beatles?

bad vocals skills, simple
>lyrics......

Simple lyrics?

Picture yourself in a boat on a river,
With tangerine trees and marmalade skies
Somebody calls you, you answer quite slowly,
A girl with kaleidoscope eyes.
Cellophane flowers of yellow and green,
Towering over your head.
Look for the girl with the sun in her eyes,
And she’s gone.
Lucy in the sky with diamonds.
Follow her down to a bridge by a fountain
Where rocking horse people eat marshmellow pies,
Everyone smiles as you drift past the flowers,
That grow so incredibly high.
Newspaper taxis appear on the shore,
Waiting to take you away.
Climb in the back with your head in the clouds,
And you’re gone.
Lucy in the sky with diamonds,
Picture yourself on a train in a station,
With plasticine porters with looking glass ties,
Suddenly someone is there at the turnstyle,
The girl with the kaleidoscope eyes.
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby tafnut » Sun Jan 11, 2004 7:05 pm

Beautiful as the lyrics are, Lennon - despite later demurrals - was writing about an LSD trip, so perhaps that was not their finest hour. Here's another:

Elenor Rigby (Lennon/McCartney)

Ah, look at all the lonely people
Ah, look at all the lonely people

Eleanor Rigby picks up the rice in the church where a wedding has been
Lives in a dream
Waits at the window, wearing the face that she keeps in a jar by the door
Who is it for?

All the lonely people
Where do they all come from ?
All the lonely people
Where do they all belong ?

Father McKenzie writing the words of a sermon that no one will hear
No one comes near.
Look at him working. Darning his socks in the night when there's nobody there
What does he care?

All the lonely people
Where do they all come from?
All the lonely people
Where do they all belong?

Eleanor Rigby died in the church and was buried along with her name
Nobody came
Father McKenzie wiping the dirt from his hands as he walks from the grave
No one was saved

All the lonely people
Where do they all come from?
All the lonely people
Where do they all belong?
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby tandfman » Sun Jan 11, 2004 8:12 pm

>okay, what the hell is good about The Beatles?
bad vocals skills, simple lyrics......<

but the best popular music that has been written by anyone in the past 50 years. Nobody has equalled the sophistication of their music and the instrumentation that they brought to their recordings. Next to them, almost all rock music pales. They brought popular music to a new plane. Alas, they not proven to be the progenitors of a new generation of musicians. If you look carefully at the melodies and harmonies of what has followed them, you find few who ever approached their level of achievement and none who ever did so consistently.
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby MJD » Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:49 pm

>Gotta delurk for a shot at this one.

Nirvana -- Nevermind

It has already started. Cobain died on April 5, 1994 and this month's Spin devotes about half the mag to him because of the upcoming 10 year anniversary. I'm told that people of a certain vintage can tell you where they were and what they were doing on that date. tandfman, if you're out there, my guess is that you can't. Neither can I...
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby abinferno » Thu Mar 25, 2004 9:48 am

That's funny, should we feel sorry for him or something?
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Re: iPod II--The Albums

Postby MJD » Thu Mar 25, 2004 10:17 am

>That's funny, should we feel sorry for him or something?

tandfman or Cobain? Quite frankly, knowing where you were on the day he died should not be something you should be admitting to anyone.
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