Bonds Indicted [guilty on 1/4] [wrist whacked!]

[guru]

Bonds tested positive for steroids in 2001 federal prosecutor reveals, the year he hit 73.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23173928/

[gh]

They may well have updated the story since you linked it, but it now says it clarifies that he DIDN'T test poostiive in '01, it was '00.

[RMc]

Here's the updated story from Reuters:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080215/sp_ ... gvgNjGOrgF

[MJD]

Umm...isn't this a bit of a distinction without a difference?

[Daisy]

I thought Balco were the distributors, not the brains?

edit: this comment was in reference to a now deleted cartoon citing balco as the brains of the steroid scandal.

[Chetanji]

I thought Balco were the distributors, not the brains?

Perhaps the cartoonist is making light of Balco. For what they tried to do, they sure got a lot of heat.

[jazzcyclist]

Whitlock on Clemens:
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7785720

[Chetanji]

The Hammer on Clemens...02/19/2008 4:25 PM ET

Aaron on Clemens

[guru]

All traces of Bonds being removed from AT&T Park.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3315212

[tandfman]

Giants not doing so well without him.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1209339 ... b_page_one

[guru]

More good news for BB.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/24604289/

[Half Miler]

The Major League Baseball Players Association said last week it was investigating whether to file a collusion grievance against teams for not pursuing Bonds

you've got to be kidding.

[tlb747]

The Major League Baseball Players Association said last week it was investigating whether to file a collusion grievance against teams for not pursuing Bonds

you've got to be kidding.

I do not get it. What does that quote mean? I am not surprised about the lastest events. Go Giants!

[Half Miler]

My quote, or the article?

Personally, after all that's occurred, I just can't believe the Players Association would actually do this. Aren't teams allowed NOT TO PURSUE anyone they're not interested in?

[Law dude]

I know nothing at all about the collective bargaining agreement between MLB and its Players Association, so what I'm about to suggest is pure speculation.

There are some legal theories under which Bonds could sue the owners for a concerted action--an illegal boycott. So why hasn't Bonds done this, and why is the Players Association (which doesn't seem much affected by this) making the noise? One possible reason is that there is a provision in the cba that says that players cannot assert certain claims against owners--those claim must be brought by the Players Association under the agreement.

Again, I've no idea if that's what this is all about, but it seems to me that it could explain what would otherwise seem so inexplicable. Absent such a clause, I can't imagine why Bonds wouldn't bring this claim directly, if he felt legitimately aggrieved, and I can't imagine why the Players Association would feel that it has enough skin in the game to make it worthwhile pursuing this.

[tlb747]

My quote, or the article?

Personally, after all that's occurred, I just can't believe the Players Association would actually do this. Aren't teams allowed NOT TO PURSUE anyone they're not interested in?

I meant the article.

[bad hammy]

All traces of Bonds being removed from AT&T Park.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3315212

Not exactly true. There is the marker where number 756 landed, as mentioned in the article. Additionally, on the walkway between the ballpark and McCovey cove there are bronze plaques in the ground to commemorate all significant Giants milestones that have occurred since the park opened in 2000. Most of those (75% or so) are related to Bonds. And there are Bonds t-shirts available at the concessions.

[gh]

Will this run as long as Oklahoma on Broadway?

Probe now going after Anderson's wife

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... 01&sc=1000

[Master Po]

Will this run as long as Oklahoma on Broadway?

Yes, and at the end, they're all going to join in on a spirited rendition of "Anything You Can Do", led by Barry Bonds...:

"Anything you can do, I can do better.
I can do anything better than you.

No you can't.
Yes, I can.
No, you can't.
Yes, I can.
No, you can't.
Yes, I can, Yes, I can!

Anything you can be, I can be greater.
Sooner or later I'm greater than you."

etc.

Oh, wait, that's from Annie Get Your Gun, not Oklahoma-- still, it could work, in...BALCO -- the Musical! -- someone call Mel Brooks -- I think this might be a smash hit.

[bad hammy]

Will this run as long as Oklahoma on Broadway?

Let's see, this thread was started in 2007. Today around four years later the federal judge told the prosecution and defense to get together and arrange a plea deal - she doesn't want to go to trial with this: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... .DTL&tsp=1

[guru]

Today around four years later the federal judge told the prosecution and defense to get together and arrange a plea deal - she doesn't want to go to trial with this

Bonds will never sign off on a deal that's anything short of a complete fold by Novitzky. And that ain't happening.

[gh]

Street chatter is that Novitzky's bosses may just pull the plug rather than pouring more money down a rathole. This has been a fabulously long (and expensive) process, and it's now looking as if even a worst-case-scenario for Bonds has him serving no time.

[no one]

It must have been mentioned here before but without steroids Bonds was still a superstar. 73? Not sure ... prob not. Desperation to be on top - at any cost. Oh the wicked web we weave when first we practice to deceive.

Likely known here is that his father was a Cal state champion in the LJ (25' 3") with very little practice. At home meets that coincided with home baseball games (Riverside Poly) he play the BBall game and during bottom of inning jog over to the LJ pit and take a jump. Track and BBall field were ~ 20yards apart. Likewise with the 100. Story goes that he came over for the 100 in a meet versus Muir HS (for those that know So Cal HS track). He ran 9.7 and got 5th - duel meet.

His uncle was the Cal State 120 and 180 champion in early 60s. And his aunt ran the 80m hurdles in the Olympics. Needless to say they were legends not just in Riverside but So Cal and Cal HS circles - with everyone track, as well as baseball and football.

I'm not sure but I think there was another brother who was equally athletically gifted - name 'Bob' - to complete the Bob - Robert - Bobby trifecta.

Quite a family legacy - more than sad chapter, now perhaps closing. I lived around the corner from Bobby and Barry for about 18 mo. I could out-due Barry in any sport ... of course he was 3 or 4 so it was pretty close.

[jazzcyclist]

Besides being one of the greatest hitters of all times, he sure knows how to pick his friends. Susan McDougal ain't got nothin' on Greg Anderson.

[bad hammy]

Besides being one of the greatest hitters of all times, he sure knows how to pick his friends. Susan McDougal ain't got nothin' on Greg Anderson.

Picked or bought, Anderson has been gold for Bonds.

[jazzcyclist]

The Feds are getting desperate.

At a federal court hearing court in San Francisco, Judge Susan Illston told Greg Anderson, who pleaded guilty to steroid distribution in the BALCO sports doping scandal, that he will return to prison if he refuses to testify at Bonds' trial on charges of lying under oath about using steroids. It's set to begin March 21.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... z1FPfxdC8p

[26mi235]

Besides being one of the greatest hitters of all times, he sure knows how to pick his friends. Susan McDougal ain't got nothin' on Greg Anderson.

Picked or bought, Anderson has been gold for Bonds.

And likely conversely.

I think that the judge has to take the route she has taken -- requesting the testimony, setting out the implications and putting him jail for contempt during the course of the trial (only).

[gh]

Part of the Bonds defense: he's always been a jerk! (see story on front page)

[Daisy]

Part of the Bonds defense: he's always been a jerk! (see story on front page)

Well he does have a point there.

[jazzcyclist]

The defense has rested without calling a single witness.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=6300104

[donley2]

Guilty of obstruction of justice. Hung jury on the other 3 charges.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=6347014

[Rye Catcher]

Oh gawd, I wanna be a big name, athlete/criminal. Always one wanna be donkey on the jury who just could not convict. They just want to get along.

[26mi235]

It is interesting that the one count went 11-1 but another went majority for acquittal. My guess is that additional info such as the tests would have resulted in a conviction on this one, but I understand the way that the legal system is structured.

[guru]

I had to laugh in the post-verdict press conference outside the courthouse. Bonds' lawyer said how much Bonds wanted to speak, but because the case is ongoing he wouldn't be able to. Then after a few other comments to the reporters, the lawyer asked Bonds if he had anything he wanted to say

[gh]

gets 2 years probation, 30 days house arrest (ouch! ouch! stop slapping my wrist!)

http://content.usatoday.com/communities ... robation/1