A place for the discussion of all things not closely related to the sport and its competitive side. (Locked down several times a year during the major championships)
JRM wrote:Heh. Californians can't handle 50F weather, let alone anything lower. I always laugh when the weather forecasters come on and tell me it's going to be "cold", "frigid", need gloves and scarves, etc... when the temperature drops below 60. Then I get really irate when they tell me the temperature will shoot back up to the mid/high-70s, and it's good because we "need" that warm weather (as if we don't get enough of it the other 300 days of the year).
I wonder what Northern Califonians (Sierra Nevada Mountains) do at this time of the year. It is dropping into the 20's and 10's as lows for the next few day here (Gulfport, Mississippi).
Looking at the weather forecast for the weekend, RECORD colds from the Dakotas to Arkansas to southern Florida! Where's all this Global Warming I've heard so much about?!
Weather guy in Tampa put up the 5 day forecast, told us that we might get a mixture of sleet and snow overnight tomorrow.
He also pointed out that the station was using the "wintery mix" icon and that he not only hadn't used it in fifteen years down here but wasn't even aware that the icon existed.
Marlow wrote:Looking at the weather forecast for the weekend, RECORD colds from the Dakotas to Arkansas to southern Florida! Where's all this Global Warming I've heard so much about?!
Perhaps in the Arctic? Where,
1) Ice free travel across the North of our Continent has happened for the first time in our recorded history, and shipping companies are taking a serious look at using that route, the fabled "Northwest Passage".
2) One of the latest freeze-ups occurred, almost a month later than "usual",
much to the chagrin of the Natives, and the Polar Bears, who were cannibalizing their young, because they had no ice from which to hunt the seals.
3) It was warmer there on January 4th, than most of the USA, probably including parts of Florida...
I'm bummed. I'm in Florida. It's raining, it's in the 40's. That means: no shorts, no T Shirt, and worst of all, no sandals! Then I have to go to a movie that still has the air conditioning on. Still, watching Emily Blunt might warm me up, even if she's playing a queen.
Its been averaging 19 degrees here (66 F) in Ja. and man are we freezing our butts off. Something about stationary front off the north coast. This is just unusal and weird. On the way to work everyone was wearing jackets and coats.
observer2 wrote:By the way, doesn´t the Celsius scale make more sense?
The best thing about the Celsius scale, apart from it making more sense, is that a degree Kelvin is effectively the same as a degree Celsius. This means the conversion (C to K) in chemistry and biology are easy. The F scale makes no sense on so many levels, unless your name is Marlow.
(I say ludicrous, because at least English linear measure makes some elemental sense, being related to body parts, but this was pure voodoo mathematics)
Conor Dary wrote:CNN really does their temperatures in Celsius? What is next? Doing their broadcasts in Latin?
I hate to be a pedant here, but I think you mean Esperanto. The latin equivalent of temperature scales is sticking your hand out of the window.
Well it depends on your time period. Back in Newton's day, Latin was the esperanto of the times. Anybody who was anybody, be they French, English, German or whatever wrote in Latin. And since we are talking Celsius the temperature, along with Kelvin, of the scientists, I do mean Latin.
I don't believe I have ever seen a mathematical paper in esperanto, but I have read plenty in Latin, or at least tried.
Conor Dary wrote: The best thing about the Celsius scale, apart from it making more sense... This really is not true. If anything Fahrenheit is more accurate since it is 180 units from freezing to boiling as opposed to 100 for Celsius.
I believe that was the third iteration of the fahrenheit scale. They were already desperately trying to make it relevant even back then. Similar to Microsoft trying to copy everything MAC and google.
Conor Dary wrote:
Daisy wrote:That is because latin is from the past, like fahrenheit.
I believe that was the third iteration of the fahrenheit scale. They were already desperately trying to make it relevant even back then. Similar to Microsoft trying to copy everything MAC and google.
The third? Well at least they knew enough to try to fix it.
But it is still relevant. If I say it is 72F outside, (I wish) you know exactly what I mean.
As for Microsoft, Fahrenheit and His Friends will certainly be relevant long after those jokers in Redmond are gone.
Which reminds me of a amusing story. A friend went to China last spring. He was out in a T-shirt enjoying a warm day. One comment he got, this fellow was still wearing his winter coat, "but what are you going to wear when it's summer!"
Pego wrote:I got used to thinking in the Fahrenheit scale a lot quicker than the imperial measurements.
While I am firmly in the camp of those who believe "climate change/global warming" is a naturally re-occuring event, unaffected and unopposable by man, I also believe the unusal amount of snow this winter neither refutes nor reinforces climate change.
It happens. You can average temperature and precipitation and if a year happens to hit the average, it just happens to hit the average. No year is normal
Daisy wrote:Lonewolf, there is a big difference between challenging the existence of climate change and not being convinced it is caused by man's activity.
I think the term climate change is a little sneaky. The only change we have been told we have to worry about is the climate eventually getting warmer, not colder.
I do understand that the Earth can have global warming in its future but still suffer some cold spells along the way. But long term the only real threat being argued is warming, correct?
SQUACKEE wrote:The only change we have been told we have to worry about is the climate eventually getting warmer, not colder.
Not the climate but the average global temperature. Local weather will change in a less predictable way.
One thing I read is that in the global warming model the arctic air is more likely to head south. That means we might all be freezing but the arctic is relatively balmy. Hence, the global average temperature could be still be higher even while we freeze our butts off.
SQUACKEE wrote:The only change we have been told we have to worry about is the climate eventually getting warmer, not colder.
Not the climate but the average global temperature. Local weather will change in a less predictable way.
One thing I read is that in the global warming model the arctic air is more likely to head south. That means we might all be freezing but the arctic is relatively balmy. Hence, the global average temperature could be still be higher even while we freeze our butts off.
How does he explain all the melting glaciers? Except those in PA of course.
Ice melts. Glaciers are always calving. This is what ice does. If ice did not melt, we'd have an ice-covered planet. The fact is that the ice cover is growing in the southern hemisphere even as the ice cover is more or less shrinking in the northern hemisphere. As you and I are talking today, global sea ice coverage is about 400,000 square kilometers above the long-term average - which means that the surplus in the Antarctic is greater than the deficit in the Arctic.
So ALL the glaciers melting is not a problem? Seems like this guy is hoping that a cooling antarctica is going to save us. Does this sound normal to you?
Many others taking day off.
