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Postby MJD » Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:08 am

This is a very sad story but most of the discussion today is how could this kind of miscommunication happen when the focus should be on why the explosion took place in the first place.
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Postby guru » Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:39 am

Just got my USA Today from the driveway. Banner headline reads: "12 miners found alive". Yikes.
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Postby utkvol80 » Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:28 am

The NY Times jumped the gun on this story as well. Probably does not want sit on its stories anymore, as did with the spying story:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/04/natio ... ?th&emc=th
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Postby utkvol80 » Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:50 am

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Postby gh » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:00 am

Don't think there's any need to pick on any papers here: the governor of WV made the original announcement.
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Postby twittering debutante » Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:25 am

Most of the media seemed to hedge behind "unconfirmed reports".

Easy to blame the media, but in this case, it's not hard to see why they ran with the story. It was right at deadline and the reports were coming from inside the mine.
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Postby dukehjsteve » Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:34 am

What's the old carpentry rule, of "measure twice, cut once ? "

Well this time they measured once and then cut. NO EXCUSE, basic media rules were ignored. It's called confirmation.

But even worse was the withholding of unfolding negative reports from the families and media for several hours.

There will be a lot of heads rolling.

edit to add P.S> And what really frosted me was the mine honcho's emotional statement of " this is the worse day of MY life." Well sir, that may very well be true but YOUR life is not the concern here. Idiot.
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Postby tafnut » Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:01 am

This is eeriely like Munich 72 (saw the movie last week) where they initially said that all the kidnappers were killed, but the victims (except one) were OK. Tragic.
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Postby MJD » Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:01 am

Sounds like the problem was a cell phone scan of a conversation that was misunderstood. Focus is now all wrong-not to be insensitive about this but one reporter asked one family member when she said that she was going to sue for the miscommunication "What about the safety record of the company." "Oh well, that too." And she was stammering.
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Postby MJD » Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:02 am

utkvol80 wrote:The NY Times jumped the gun on this story as well. Probably does not want sit on its stories anymore, as did with the spying story:



That was the first thing I saw this morning on their online version. Then the USA Today.
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Postby Law dude » Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:06 am

One of the worst things about this is that some asshole law dude is probably going to sue everyone in sight for causing pain and suffering to the families by the dissemination of the incorrect information. And of course the resultant litigation will simply protract and magnify that very pain and suffering.
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Postby bad hammy » Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:49 am

The discussion as to which media outlets went with the original story or not is kind of moot. It was not the media who informed the families that 12 of 13 were alive. Whoever was part of the miscommunication with the families are the ones who have to worry about any potential legal actions. Don’t know the details, but I am confident that all involved feel like $hit right now.
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Postby twittering debutante » Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:47 am

The media will get blasted but undeservedly, in my opinion.

What better source is a company official inside the mine?

Like I said before, the story was on deadline. The media didn't purposely distort the story. The coal company honchos sat on the facts and that is why we're discussing it today. The governor was swept into this malestrom like everyone else. He was not duped by the media.

I stayed up and watched CNN all night because something seemed amiss. I regret having the morbid curiosity. My prayers and thoughts are with the families.
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Postby Daisy » Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:54 am

twittering debutante wrote:What better source is a company official inside the mine?

Agree with TD. This was not the medias fault. They were reporting the story. If the mine decides to tell the families the miners are alive i don't see why they would wait for further proof. What a tragic emotional rollercoaster. I would not wish that on anyone, it's like losing them twice.
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Postby MJD » Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:05 am

I first saw this error when I got my daily email from the NYT. Here is what they say today:

- EDITORS' NOTE -
Today's Headlines for Wednesday, Jan. 4 included an article, "12 Miners Found Alive 41 Hours After Explosion," about the mining accident in West Virginia. That article relied on attributed sources, including a named official from the West Virginia Department of Military Affairs and Public Safety, and victims' family members. Later information determined that 11 miners were dead and one survived.
Since this e-mail is compiled at 2 a.m. Eastern time, it did not include this new information, which broke about 3 a.m.
A more detailed explanation of how the events unfolded is included below:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/05/natio ... ?th&emc=th
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/05/natio ... ?th&emc=th
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